Author |
Topic  |
King Warrior
stripovi.com suradnik
    

22339 Posts
Member since 10/11/2007 |
Posted - 15/09/2011 : 01:29:03
|
quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bushido
Naravno, mi ovdje sada raspravljamo o subjektivnim dojmovima. I tako će uvijek biti. To što netko ne voli Chiarollu i Laurentija neće puno utjecati na moje mišljenje. I obrnuto.
Hajde pitaj i ti svoju zenu ili curu, da vidimo komentar?  Samo budi iskren i napisi sta je rekla. |
 |
|
Mr. Bushido
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
12955 Posts
Member since 23/09/2005 |
Posted - 15/09/2011 : 01:32:12
|
quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bushido
Naravno, mi ovdje sada raspravljamo o subjektivnim dojmovima. I tako će uvijek biti. To što netko ne voli Chiarollu i Laurentija neće puno utjecati na moje mišljenje. I obrnuto.
Hajde pitaj i ti svoju zenu ili curu, da vidimo komentar?  Samo budi iskren i napisi sta je rekla.
Ma vidi ga. Jel ti to mene podbadaš jer si mi pogledao profil?  |
Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins |
 |
|
King Warrior
stripovi.com suradnik
    

22339 Posts
Member since 10/11/2007 |
Posted - 15/09/2011 : 01:34:09
|
quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bushido
Ma vidi ga. Jel ti to mene podbadaš jer si mi pogledao profil? 
ma ne. dobro, nisi ozenjen, ali sigurno imas neki komad u blizini. |
 |
|
Mr. Bushido
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
12955 Posts
Member since 23/09/2005 |
Posted - 15/09/2011 : 01:36:53
|
quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bushido
Ma vidi ga. Jel ti to mene podbadaš jer si mi pogledao profil? 
ma ne. dobro, nisi ozenjen, ali sigurno imas neki komad u blizini.
Jel se računaju prostitutke u susjedstvu? 
Nope, trenutno sam bez bolje polovice.  |
Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins |
 |
|
PijaniPatak
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Germany
10035 Posts
Member since 20/02/2010 |
Posted - 15/09/2011 : 01:40:15
|
quote: Originally posted by Snake Plissken
A Ferijev crtez je znatno realniji od ovog Kjarolinog?
Ako ćemo samo objektivno, Ferrijev je mnogo bliže realnome. A objektivno, mlatimo praznu slamu upoređivajući ih. Govorimo o dva ihahaj drugačija stila crtanja. Neko ko se razume u slikarstvo i sl. bi mogao i da imenuje taj stil (nešto tipa ''hiperkjarolistični stil'' ) |
DNEVNIK CITANJA: Etika junaštva i deklišeizirani koreni u “Zagor prica...”
|
 |
|
King Warrior
stripovi.com suradnik
    

22339 Posts
Member since 10/11/2007 |
Posted - 15/09/2011 : 01:40:42
|
quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bushido
Jel se računaju prostitutke u susjedstvu? 
1. Nope. Njima kada platis reci ce ti ono sto hoces da cujes. 
|
 |
|
bjelolasica
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
5106 Posts
Member since 30/08/2009 |
Posted - 15/09/2011 : 08:03:06
|
quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bushido
Jel se računaju prostitutke u susjedstvu? 
1. Nope. Njima kada platis reci ce ti ono sto hoces da cujes. 
Za Bushida je to jedini način da nađe toplinu ženskog daha. |
Don’t beat me massa!Please don’t beat me massa!Don’t beat this tired old body! No, no! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8D93Awa434 |
 |
|
Zeljko Ferri
Senior Member
   
.jpg)
Serbia
1304 Posts
Member since 15/12/2004 |
Posted - 15/09/2011 : 11:56:02
|
quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
Ma kakva dinamika, likovi mu se bukvalno raspadaju u pokretima, ne zna se ko pije a ko placa. Neko je jednom spomenuo tu dinamiku crteza, i od tada se stalno spominje kao izgovor da se nadje nesto pozitivno u njegovom crtezu. Uporedi ovu fenomenalnu sliku gore sa nekom od naslovnica gdje Zagor lici na nekog retardiranog mutanta. Na slici sve stima, cak i dijelovi naboranih pantola. Na Zagoru nijedan ud i misic nisu na mjestu na kojem bi trebali biti.
Slazem se u potpunosti. LAurenti jeste dobar crtac..ali Zagora crta kao da zeli samo da otalja i da uzme lovu..na brzaka....cist idiotizam od strane Bonelli staffa koji ga je uposlio u Zagor staffu.... |
|
 |
|
Cromwell
Advanced Member
    

Croatia
4467 Posts
Member since 10/09/2011 |
Posted - 15/09/2011 : 16:15:41
|
Idiotizam od strane Bonelli staffa je taj što Burattinijeve scenarije vjerojatno nitko ne provjerava -> Upravo sam pročitao ''Povratak mutanta'' i još ne mogu doći k sebi. Svaka čast Rendallu ali Bure mi je svojim dijalozima zamutio mozak gore od mutanta i Kandraxa skupa  
Zna li netko da li se u Bonelliju šalju scenariji za epizode nekim ''nepristranim'' ljudima da sude o kvaliteti??? Na primjer kako se u glazbenoj industriji promo cd-i šalju na recenziranje glazbenim časopisima. Ako netko zna molim neka kaže, a ja se sad idem napit mošta. |
Bok, kako si.
|
 |
|
Mr. Bushido
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
12955 Posts
Member since 23/09/2005 |
Posted - 15/09/2011 : 16:43:25
|
Burattini je jako slab scenarist. Kada god bih između Bosellijevih epizoda čitao nekoliko njegovih to je bilo kao nebo i zemlja.
Žao mi je što Colomba nisu dulje zadržali na Zagoru, on mi je bio puno bolji od Burattinija. |
Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins |
 |
|
bjelolasica
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
5106 Posts
Member since 30/08/2009 |
Posted - 15/09/2011 : 17:34:11
|
quote: Originally posted by Cromwell
Idiotizam od strane Bonelli staffa je taj što Burattinijeve scenarije vjerojatno nitko ne provjerava -> Upravo sam pročitao ''Povratak mutanta'' i još ne mogu doći k sebi. Svaka čast Rendallu ali Bure mi je svojim dijalozima zamutio mozak gore od mutanta i Kandraxa skupa  
Zna li netko da li se u Bonelliju šalju scenariji za epizode nekim ''nepristranim'' ljudima da sude o kvaliteti??? Na primjer kako se u glazbenoj industriji promo cd-i šalju na recenziranje glazbenim časopisima. Ako netko zna molim neka kaže, a ja se sad idem napit mošta.
Glavni problem je taj što u SBE vjerovatno fali novih scenarista pa je Bure sve preuzeo na sebe. |
Don’t beat me massa!Please don’t beat me massa!Don’t beat this tired old body! No, no! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8D93Awa434 |
 |
|
DeeCay
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
21661 Posts
Member since 24/09/2002 |
|
DeeCay
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
21661 Posts
Member since 24/09/2002 |
Posted - 15/09/2011 : 17:35:57
|
quote: Originally posted by bjelolasica Glavni problem je taj što u SBE vjerovatno fali novih scenarista pa je Bure sve preuzeo na sebe.
Ima ih i previše kako su se ukidali neki serijali. Rijetko koji novi upadne. |
“A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies; the man who never reads lives only one." |
 |
|
bjelolasica
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
5106 Posts
Member since 30/08/2009 |
Posted - 15/09/2011 : 18:31:13
|
quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
quote: Originally posted by bjelolasica Glavni problem je taj što u SBE vjerovatno fali novih scenarista pa je Bure sve preuzeo na sebe.
Ima ih i previše kako su se ukidali neki serijali. Rijetko koji novi upadne.
Pardon trebao sma staviti da fali novih odličnih scenarista. Jer ako si dobar na npr. Mister Nou ne moraš biti dobar na Zagoru. |
Don’t beat me massa!Please don’t beat me massa!Don’t beat this tired old body! No, no! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8D93Awa434 |
 |
|
Zeljko Ferri
Senior Member
   
.jpg)
Serbia
1304 Posts
Member since 15/12/2004 |
Posted - 15/09/2011 : 20:29:43
|
quote: Originally posted by bjelolasica
quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
quote: Originally posted by bjelolasica Glavni problem je taj što u SBE vjerovatno fali novih scenarista pa je Bure sve preuzeo na sebe.
Ima ih i previše kako su se ukidali neki serijali. Rijetko koji novi upadne.
Pardon trebao sma staviti da fali novih odličnih scenarista. Jer ako si dobar na npr. Mister Nou ne moraš biti dobar na Zagoru.
Ovo isto vazi i za crtace.... |
|
 |
|
Cromwell
Advanced Member
    

Croatia
4467 Posts
Member since 10/09/2011 |
Posted - 16/09/2011 : 09:13:02
|
quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bushido
Burattini je jako slab scenarist. Kada god bih između Bosellijevih epizoda čitao nekoliko njegovih to je bilo kao nebo i zemlja.
Žao mi je što Colomba nisu dulje zadržali na Zagoru, on mi je bio puno bolji od Burattinija.
Uh, a ne bih se baš složio da je tako slab. Na primjer, prva dva nastavka sa Mortimerom su fantastična. Ovi zadnji scenariji imaju potencijala ali jednostavno nisu razrađeni kak spada. Tako da mi je jedino logičko objašnjenje da je zagrizao preveliki komad posla a da toga nije ni svijestan. A ako već želi raditi više poslova od jednom onda se nameće potreba da netko sa strane kontrolira i daje sugestije.
Zapravo da ne duljim tu, čitaju li u Bonelliju mailove na engleskom ili da odmah odustanem?  |
Bok, kako si.
|
 |
|
bjelolasica
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
5106 Posts
Member since 30/08/2009 |
Posted - 16/09/2011 : 10:58:16
|
quote: Originally posted by Cromwell
quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bushido
Burattini je jako slab scenarist. Kada god bih između Bosellijevih epizoda čitao nekoliko njegovih to je bilo kao nebo i zemlja.
Žao mi je što Colomba nisu dulje zadržali na Zagoru, on mi je bio puno bolji od Burattinija.
Uh, a ne bih se baš složio da je tako slab. Na primjer, prva dva nastavka sa Mortimerom su fantastična. Ovi zadnji scenariji imaju potencijala ali jednostavno nisu razrađeni kak spada. Tako da mi je jedino logičko objašnjenje da je zagrizao preveliki komad posla a da toga nije ni svijestan. A ako već želi raditi više poslova od jednom onda se nameće potreba da netko sa strane kontrolira i daje sugestije.
Zapravo da ne duljim tu, čitaju li u Bonelliju mailove na engleskom ili da odmah odustanem? 
Govorimo o talijanima onda je 100% sigurno da oni ne razumiju ni E od engleskog. |
Don’t beat me massa!Please don’t beat me massa!Don’t beat this tired old body! No, no! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8D93Awa434 |
 |
|
DeeCay
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
21661 Posts
Member since 24/09/2002 |
Posted - 16/09/2011 : 15:07:37
|
Većina ih nema pojma engleski, tu si u pravu, uglavnom crtači. No, Burattini dosta dobro govori, tako da pismeno razumije sigurno. A i da njemu napišeš nešto siguran sam da bi ti čak i odgovorio, koliko ozbiljno shvaća svoj posao, a i susretljiv je.
Što se scenarista tiče, Bonelli baš i ne novači nove scenariste, a kad serijal stane, scenarista smo postave na drugo mjesto. To je i dalje firmica kao obiteljski biznis i tako se ponašaju. Brinu se za svoje radnike. Mislim da je netko čak i pitao Burattinija zašto ne uzmu neke nove scenariste za Zagora, pa je rekao da zašto kad ih ima dosta, a i on sve stiže. A mislim da svi osjećamo da malo fali svježe krvi, tek toliko da se unesu neke nove ideje u serijal... |
“A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies; the man who never reads lives only one." |
 |
|
Cromwell
Advanced Member
    

Croatia
4467 Posts
Member since 10/09/2011 |
Posted - 16/09/2011 : 15:30:24
|
quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
Mislim da je netko čak i pitao Burattinija zašto ne uzmu neke nove scenariste za Zagora, pa je rekao da zašto kad ih ima dosta, a i on sve stiže. A mislim da svi osjećamo da malo fali svježe krvi, tek toliko da se unesu neke nove ideje u serijal...
E to je to! Thanx DeeCay! Mislim da ću mu prek vikenda definitivno složiti nekakav mail. |
Bok, kako si.
|
 |
|
piquet
Senior Member
   

Croatia
1593 Posts
Member since 15/03/2003 |
Posted - 16/09/2011 : 15:45:46
|
quote: Originally posted by DeeCay pa je rekao da zašto kad ih ima dosta, a i on sve stiže zasrati
da |
"I kako se može razaznati je li neciji jezik iskren, ako mu ne gledamo u lice dok govori i ako ne slušamo zvuk njegovih rijeci?" |
 |
|
bjelolasica
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
5106 Posts
Member since 30/08/2009 |
Posted - 16/09/2011 : 16:12:08
|
quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
Što se scenarista tiče, Bonelli baš i ne novači nove scenariste, a kad serijal stane, scenarista smo postave na drugo mjesto. To je i dalje firmica kao obiteljski biznis i tako se ponašaju. Brinu se za svoje radnike. Mislim da je netko čak i pitao Burattinija zašto ne uzmu neke nove scenariste za Zagora, pa je rekao da zašto kad ih ima dosta, a i on sve stiže. A mislim da svi osjećamo da malo fali svježe krvi, tek toliko da se unesu neke nove ideje u serijal...
Kao da su sekta. Ne bi me začudilo da imaju lozinke i tajno krštenje, rukovanje i slično.    Očito čekaju novu krizu 90-tih pa će onda primiti nove članove. |
Don’t beat me massa!Please don’t beat me massa!Don’t beat this tired old body! No, no! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8D93Awa434 |
 |
|
mladjo
Advanced Member
    
.jpg)
Croatia
20013 Posts
Member since 15/04/2007 |
Posted - 16/09/2011 : 17:28:40
|
Zagor KLASIK:OCEAN
Vrlo dobra epizoda i jedna od najboljih u ovome ciklusu. Osobno mi je bolja i od Slobode ili smrti. Sve u svemu, sad dolaze vrlo kvalitetne epizode na red. |
COUNT ZERO INTERRUPT an interrupt of a process decrements a counter to zero
|
 |
|
King Warrior
stripovi.com suradnik
    

22339 Posts
Member since 10/11/2007 |
|
bjelolasica
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
5106 Posts
Member since 30/08/2009 |
|
Mr. Bushido
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
12955 Posts
Member since 23/09/2005 |
|
Topic  |
|