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jaki
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 Posted - 21/02/2021 : 02:34:53
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Licencirane je prejaka riječ:)
Mislim da u Marvelu nisu ni znali za Gwen a i da jesu ne bi ih bilo briga.
Druga vrimena... |
Ja sam fetišist papira! |
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going going
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Posted - 21/02/2021 : 03:58:18
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Originally posted by jaki
Licencirane je prejaka riječ:)
Mislim da u Marvelu nisu ni znali za Gwen a i da jesu ne bi ih bilo briga.
Druga vrimena...
Mislim da bas kaze Chris u ovom videuu da je dosao neko iz Meksika u Njujork u sediste Marvela i da su se dogovorili i da ovo stvarno jeste licencno izdanje.
Davno sam gledao snimak, ali ako se dobro secam tako je bilo. |
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Vlaadisha
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alexts
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Posted - 18/04/2021 : 22:07:04
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Totalni masakr 1 & 2 (Čarobna knjiga)
/Spider-Man: Maximum Carnage/
by David Michelinie Terry Kavanagh, J.M. DeMatteis, Tom DeFalco, Mark Bagley, Alex Saviuk, Tom Lyle, Sal Buscema, Ron Lim, Scott McDaniel i dr.
Carnage, u prevodu ČK zvani Masakr, nema drugi posao, nego ide po gradu i ubija (valjda je lud ili tako nešto). Spajdermen ga juri i pokušava da ga zaustavi. Ali Masakr okuplja ekipu u kojoj su - Vriska, Spajder-dvojnik, Demogoblin i Strvinar. Zato i Spajdermen okuplja pomoć - Crna Mačka, Plašt i Kama, Morbijus, Noćni Stražar, Vatrena Zvezda i Detlok (pojave se i Kapetan Amerika, Gvozdena Pesnica...). Pozitivci se smenjuju, a na strani dobrih, ovaj put je i Venom. Hoće li pobediti Venomov ili Spajdermenov pristup u rešavanju situacije?
Odmah posle perioda rada ko-kreatora Stiva Ditkoa, Spajdermen je dobio i svoje najbolje crtače ikada - Džona Romitu (seniora) i Gila Kejna. Posle njih, crtači su pokušavali da održavaju visok nivo, ali je tokom par decenija bio prisutan konstantan blagi pad, pa je u ovom periodu (1993-a) već primetno slabiji. Maximum Carnage priča prostire se kroz 14 epizoda i 5 različitih, ondašnjih serijala Spajdermena. Kao najsolidnije crtače izdvojio bih Sala Buscemu i Rona Lima, a na suprotnom kraju, meni ne-omiljenog Marka Bagley-ja - ali u proseku imamo - jači prosek. Priča se takođe ne ističe - gotovo je nema. Junaci i zlikovci se jure i pronalaze i makljaju kroz 14 epizoda. Srećna okolnost je da u stripovima ovog perioda likovi još uvek pričaju sve vreme, pa imamo nešto "razvoja karaktera" (i dovoljno vremena za to u priči koja je inače nepotrebno duga), bar onih važnijih i da njihovi međusobni odnosi povećavaju zanimljivost dešavanja, pa ljubiteljima ovakvog štiva strip nije dosadan i uglavnom je zabavan. Moralna dilema se gura pred čitaoce isuviše napadno i naivno, u skladu sa skromnijim dometima ovog crossover-a. Totalni Masakr je možda omiljena priča onima koji su je čitali u detinjstvu i u to vreme zavoleli stripove.
Nadam se da će ČK objavljivati još neke bolje starije epizode (kakve su bile sve, koje su u ediciji TBOSM izdali prethodno pre ove) i da se neće orijentisati isključivo na HOT/NOW period.
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going going
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Posted - 18/04/2021 : 22:16:45
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Originally posted by alexts
Totalni masakr 1 & 2 (Čarobna knjiga)
/Spider-Man: Maximum Carnage/
**1/2
Alexts, oduvek htedoh da te pitam kako funkcionišu zvezdice i ocene kod tebe? Ne pitam ironično ili sarkastično nego ne mogu da provalim koja je ovo ocena. |
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Paka01
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going going
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Posted - 18/04/2021 : 22:22:05
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Originally posted by Paka01
2.5? 
Je l da?
Zvezdice su kao po bod, znači dva boda i još pola?
Baš nisam mogao da skapiram. |
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alexts
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Giuda Ballerino
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Posted - 21/08/2021 : 20:04:14
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| Citam zavrsnicu ove sage s Kindredom, sad je aktualan Sinister War i ceka se kraj Spencera, ali sve ovo do sad s Kindredom nije uopce toliko lose. |
Kaizoku ou ni ore wa naru! |
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Vlaadisha
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PaoloRivera
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Posted - 24/08/2021 : 16:07:17
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Mozda se to pokaze kao dobar potez. Ako film bude los, Marvel nece bit razapet jer je unakazio pricu koja je ionako vec bila losa, samo eto, ni u filmu iz nje nisu uspjeli izvuc nista bolje.
S druge strane, ako film bude uspjesan onda ce One More Day dobiti reevaluaciju i novi status predloska koji ipak mora bar malo valjat ako je na kraju polucio solidnim filmom. Sto ce onda i boostati prodaju One More Day trejdova, itd. |
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Vlaadisha
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Posted - 24/08/2021 : 17:02:20
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Originally posted by PaoloRivera
Mozda se to pokaze kao dobar potez. Ako film bude los, Marvel nece bit razapet jer je unakazio pricu koja je ionako vec bila losa, samo eto, ni u filmu iz nje nisu uspjeli izvuc nista bolje.
S druge strane, ako film bude uspjesan onda ce One More Day dobiti reevaluaciju i novi status predloska koji ipak mora bar malo valjat ako je na kraju polucio solidnim filmom. Sto ce onda i boostati prodaju One More Day trejdova, itd.
imao sam utisak da ce spencer retkonovati OMD ali jako se oduzilo... |
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Gil-galad
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Vlaadisha
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emirem
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Vlaadisha
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PaoloRivera
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Vlaadisha
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Vlaadisha
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Posted - 01/10/2021 : 17:32:27
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[SPOILERS]
koga mrzi da cita 75 brojeva, evo skracene verzije sa cbr foruma
cue ominous music that sounds like the Omen theme
KINDRED: Now, Pete. It's time to face your sins! [unmasks to reveal Harry Osborn]
SPIDER-MAN: Harry?! But how--?
KINDRED: How am I alive? I'm not. I'm dead, Pete. My soul is still trapped in Hell. Now...confess.
SPIDER-MAN: Confess? I don't understand. Confess to what?
KINDRED: CONFESS! Confess that you and Mary Jane made a deal with the devil to save that decrepit and senile old bat you know as Aunt May!"
record scratch
MARVEL EDITOR: Wait, wait, wait! Nick, are you trying to retcon One More Day?
NICK SPENCER: Oh come guys, it's been well over ten years now. That deal with Mephisto has been plaguing this book for awhile. Don't you think we ought to address it?
MARVEL EDITOR: Address it is one thing. Getting rid of it is another. Besides, we all know that Spider-Man sells better if he's not married.
NICK SPENCER: But, I've already made Peter and MJ a couple again, which you didn't have a problem with.
MARVEL EDITOR: Couple? Yes. Marriage? No. Now go back and fix it.
NICK SPENCER: O...kay.
ominous music resumes
HARRY OSBORN: Wait, Pete! I'm not really Kindred.
SPIDER-MAN: You're not?
HARRY OSBORN: No. But I still died. I think I'm a clone now.
SPIDER-MAN: Shhh! Don't say the c-word!
HARRY: Sorry, pal.
SPIDER-MAN: But if you're not Kindred, then who...?
Kindred unmasks to reveal...
SPIDER-MAN and HARRY: Gwen Stacy?!
KINDRED: No! I'm Sarah Stacy, Gwen Stacy and Norman Osborn's daughter.
Another Kindred wearing a brown coat steps out of the shadows and unmasks.
KINDRED 2: And I'm her brother, Gabriel.
SPIDER-MAN and HARRY: Who?!
SARAH KINDRED: Exactly! That's the sin you must confess, Spider-Man. You forgot all about us! Just like our father, Norman Osborn, did.
Suddenly a computer screen turns on
HARRY AI: Actually, Norman Osborn isn't your father. Thanks to the Robot Master, the real Harry created you and your brother the same time he had Chameleon create robot versions of Peter's parents.
MYSTERIO: And I, Mysterio, used my post-hypnotic gas to make Norman believe he and Ms. Stacy swapped spit...
NORMAN OSBORN: Really? Then who did I swap spit with?
MYSTERIO: And to make MJ believe that she knew about their non-existent affair.
MARY JANE: What? But Quentin. I thought we were friends.
MYSTERIO: Just like you, Ms. Watson, I'm an ACTOR!
SPIDER-MAN: So, wait a minute? What does this have to do with MJ and I trading away our marriage to the devil?
BOTH KINDREDS: Absolutely nothing!
MEPHISTO (Whispers): Except to prevent the birth of Spider-Girl into the mainstream Marvel Universe as she's destined to destroy my future reign on Earth, but don't tell anyone.
BOTH KINDREDS: Welp, we might as well get something out of this.
They kill Harry
EVERYONE: Again?!
PETER AND NORMAN: No, It's all my fault!
MARY JANE: Don't worry, Tiger. At least you have me.
BOTH KINDREDS: No, the power of love is melting us!
Both Kindreds turn into Malt O Meal
MARVEL EDITOR: Wait a minute. There were two Kindreds this whole time?
NICK SPENCER: Yep. Go back and look. Kindred always wore two different coats. Ergo they were two different people, and not the least bit a coloring mistake.
MARVEL EDITOR: And that bit about Spider-Man's sin being forgetting all about the Stacy Twins. We tried to forget about the Stacy Twins. What are you trying to say about us, Nick?
NICK SPENCER: Oh, gee, will you look at the time. Well, it's been fun guys, but I'm off to Substack!
MARVEL EDITOR: Wait? We still have to do Amazing Spider-Man #900. Who's going to write the book now? Wells? Thompson? Gleason? Slott? Anybody?! |
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RadioClash
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Vlaadisha
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Paka01
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Posted - 21/11/2021 : 10:59:35
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| Vjerojatno ovo nije skroz pravi topic, no ne da mi se otvarati novi. Uglavnom, nedavno sam započeo s čitanjem Catesovog Venoma i moram priznati da se stvarno dobro zabavljam čitajući. Kad završim napisati ću malo dulji osvrt, trenutno sam otprilike na polovici, međutim užasno me frustrira što mu je run konstantno ispresijecan svakakvim eventovima. Znam znam, klasični problemi superherojskih stripova, no već odavno nisam pratio nešto aktualno i praktički sam zaboravio koliko te gluposti znaju biti zamorne. |
Would a new flood please finally come? A real rain and an assortment of plagues
And when all is said and done, even the Devil won't care enough to spit in the mud
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RadioClash
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don_draper
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Posted - 28/12/2021 : 21:07:30
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Kraven's Last Hunt
Moram priznati da sam slab po poznavanju Covjek pauka pa se tek uhodavam. Mozda ne bas najbolji izbor za uvertiru, ali bio je dostupan u domacem izdanju.
Kraven kao vodeci negativac dosta intrigantan i od pocetka je jasno da ce ovdje ulozi biti vrlo visoki. Scenaristicki gledano monolozi su mozda previse nakiceni filozofijom i budu repetetivni.
Sam sukob Spidermana i Kravena i nacin na koji Kraven zeli poraziti Spidermana je jako dobro osmisljen, premda mislim da je scenarist ovdje mogao jos otici do kraja.
Rasplet je slabiji dio stripa jer nas vodi i prema jos jednom, prilicno nezanimljivom negativcu te se sve svede na dobro staro saketanje do tehnickog nokauta.
Ono u cemu strip odskace je kontrarnost, a opet i poveznice izmedu protagonista i antagonista i njihovo sjajno psiholosko karakteriziranje uz dobar i uvjerljiv prikaz unutarnjeg umnog stanja. Napeto je i nesvakidasnje te na vrlo velikoj sceni donosi momente kakvi se ne vide cesto u superherojstini. Takoder, scenarist hrabro ide prema raspletu, ali na kraju ponudi prilicno mlak desert nakon vrlo svecanog, kvalitetnog i odmjerenog glavnog jela.
Crtez je na visokom nivou, iako u nekim prikazima ima limita. No, za potrebe karakteriziranja likova u mentalnoj krizi, dovedenih do samog ruba, ovo je i vise nego dobro.
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don_draper
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Posted - 29/12/2021 : 16:29:58
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Noć kada je umrla Gwen Stacy u izdanju Čarobne knjige
Uz vrlo poznatu naslovnu priču, u ovom izdanju je prisutna i priča o smrtu kapetana Stacyja.
Sviđa mi se da je ovo odabrano kao početak Best of Marvel edicije jer je riječ o izrazito bitnom događaju u svijetu Spider-Mana i nečemu što je svojevremeno bilo epohalni događaj i nesvakidašnja pojava.
Stan Lee ne čeka dugo da započne akciju, tako da već od početka imamo okršaj Spidermana i Doc Oaka. Nisam do sada čitao klasični Marvel, ali ovaj smisao za kadrove, perspektive i crtež čistih i finih linija su mi blago za oči. Cijelo vrijeme je zanimljivo i dinamično, iako bi danas takvo što teško prošlo, ali da je kvalitetno ne mogu poreći.
Stan Lee osim što je genije kada treba uvesti dinamiku i nevolje, jako dobro ocrtava i Spidermanovu psihu pomoću unutarnjih monologa, te se osjećamo kao da smo cijelo vrijeme u njegovoj glavi, promišljajući sto na sat i pazeći na mnogo stvari.
Zadnji dio knjige, ujedno i najbitniji te najpotresniji suočava Spidermana s jednim od najvećih neprijatelja, Green Goblinom. Iako zaplet nije nešto uvjerljivo razrađen i čini se dosta nagao, kulminacija je grandiozna i puna emotivnog naboja te do kraja stripa vidimo Spidermana u drukčijem, ozbiljnijem i agresivnijem izdanju. Za tadašnje pojmove ovo je bila osveta s velikim O.
Treba gledati ovaj strip u kontekstu vremena kad je izašao, ali i danas uz svu silu novijih naslova te filmova i igrica, ovaj naslov zrači kvalitetom, bitnošću i nabojem koji tjera na čitanje. Epohalni događaj čije će posljedice dugo odjekivati te veliki korak u superherojskom stripu, koji će mnogi slijediti i pokušati više ili manje očito prekopirati.
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