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dupli
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Croatia
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Posted - 15/03/2011 : 06:37:28
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quote: Originally posted by mcn
Trudu usprkos, meni su oni slobodniji majamuni otraga drazzi.
Jel da? I meni su. Veliko hvala na komentaru.

Jur, fora ti je ovaj artist maneken. Tako nesto sam bio trazio po webu  |
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all_ba
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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cat claw
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all_ba
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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cat claw
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Posted - 16/03/2011 : 01:24:23
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Pa, da ima gresaka, ima. Ali nisu tako strasne. Velika je zamerka tekstura materijala, tj docaravanje forme razlicitom srafurom. Na slikama ispod mozete videti isti stil ali razlicit tretman koze i krzna

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all_ba
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wendol
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milandj3
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Serbia
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cat claw
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IGMAN2
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Posted - 16/03/2011 : 14:07:59
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Wow! Kako je ovo dobro! Bane, imaš li pravo na svog Tarzana, tj. jel postoji ikakva mogućnost objavljivanja Albuma/integrala? Stvarno bi volio imati kvalitetno objavljene tvojeg Tarzana, Bleka, Kobru... (Katu, naravno, imam :))
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dupli
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Croatia
1077 Posts
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Posted - 16/03/2011 : 16:54:02
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quote: Originally posted by cat claw
Pa, da ima gresaka, ima. Ali nisu tako strasne. Velika je zamerka tekstura materijala, tj docaravanje forme razlicitom srafurom. Na slikama ispod mozete videti isti stil ali razlicit tretman koze i krzna
Hvala na komentarima. Svjestan sam da nije baš najbolje ali znam kako je do toga došlo.  Htio sam napraviti bogatu džunglu, no onda mi je džungla "pojela" Kerčaka. Išao sam to "spasiti" tako da Kerčaka pojačam i onda je tekstura krzna otišla kvragu, a Kerčak isplivao kao glavni dio crteža. Tarzan je ostao visiti ni vrit ni mimo, negdje između tamnog Kerčaka i šarene džungle. Jedini način da ga "vratim" na crtež bio je da mu maknem šrafure tako da bude kontrast tamnom Kerčaku. Onda je džungla "sjela" negdje između Kerčaka i Tarzana. Ovo ne pišem kako bih se opravdao već kao komentar u rubrici Što sam naučio iz ovog crteža?
Iako sam amater, bit ću slobodan prokomentirati table koje je za primjer okačio cat claw. Ne zbog toga da bih osporavao autoritet već da provjerim da li ispravno gledam na stvari. Problem s džunglom je potencijalno imao i cat claw na ovom svom primjeru. Zaobišao ga je tako da je džunglu "stilizirao" tako da je pretvorio u tamnu fleku i ubacio je nebo u igru. E sad, čim se pojavi nebo, nema više guste džungle. Dodatni problem je što imamo noć pa je i nebo tamno. Kužim ja da se to pokušalo riješiti dodavanjem mjeseca i pojačavanjem sjena na likovima ali onda se pojavio problem osvjetljenja. Na kraju se nešto moralo žrtvovati kako bismo mogli pratiti akciju. Žao mi je što “najjači” kadar (prvi na drugoj tabli, onaj s mjesecom) ne dolazi više do izražaja i žrtvovan je zbog krupnog kadra (Tarzan zabija nož u prsa) koji donosi malo informacija i djeluje “stisnuto”. |
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andjusticeforall
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Croatia
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Sneaksie Thiefsie
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cat claw
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Posted - 16/03/2011 : 19:59:51
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@Sniffsi To su pomagala kada treba nesto brzo obavati, sasvim OK, ali ti programi prilicno ulenje mozak za ucenje crtanja jer se sve ipak sustinski svede na precrtavanje. Kunst je iz glave ''izvaditi'' pravu skicu i dovesti je do finala. Sasvim je razumljivo da danasnji tempo diktira liniju manjeg otpora i nemam nista protiv toga kada je posao u pitanju, narocito u industrijskom stripu gde je zaista greota trositi resurse za alave izdavace i priglupu publiku. Kao pomocno sredstvo u izucavanju anatomije, ti programi svakako imaju ulogu u crtackoj edukaciji ali se jako mora paziti da se ne postane suvise zavisan od njih. |
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cat claw
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Posted - 16/03/2011 : 20:02:23
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@Dupli ne moras se stalno izvinjavati ako imas neku primedbu na neki crtez. Ni mi tebe ne mazimo. A to, da si osvetoljubivo zlopamtilo, ne mos' sakriti i da 'oces     
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Jur
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Slovenia
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Posted - 16/03/2011 : 21:32:59
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Meni se ovi programi gde u 3d-u stelas figuru ne dopadaju suvise. Figure su detajlne, ali pune lokalnih neprirodnih deformacija pa jih ne bi preporucio za ucenje anatomije. Ja jih ne bi koristio ni za "postavljenje poza" jer suvise namecu stil i konacni izgled. Ja sam poklonik pomocnih alata ali takvih koja ti pomazu oko osnovnih poslova i koji ne diktiraju nista, sta se tice konacnog izgleda. Problem je da takvih programa i nema (ili barem niso razsireni) jer su kao "prejednostavni". Mislim, ko bi normalan koristio primitivan pose maker poput ovog mog, kad moze, da pomera 3D model cure u bikiniju sve sa kamerom u 360°. 
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bisley
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Croatia
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Posted - 17/03/2011 : 05:29:03
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Činjenica je da se počne raditi po modelu, ako čovjek želi naučiti. Ali onda se u jednom trnutku, kad se već nauči anatomija i razvije osjećaj za kompoziciju, makneš od modela (ili ga oženiš akoje dobar )i razvijaš stil... |
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Jur
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Slovenia
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Jur
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Slovenia
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Posted - 17/03/2011 : 22:30:08
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Malo sam razmisljao... Recimo, da imas program sa 2-point i 3-point perspektivom, sa mogucnostju podesavanja FOV a i nagiba kamere. Dakle kompletno rjesenje za perspektivu. U taj program ubacis "pose dummije" za karaktere. Ubacis i neke osnovne mogucnosti crtanja za priblizni, shemataski prikaz pozadine i objekta. Po meni bi time dobili nekakav "image composer" tool. Onda bi mogli imati vise "image composer"-a, svaki bi radio u svom kadru, proizvoljnog oblika, koje bi mogao da pomeras okolo. Ubacili bi i neke dodatne mogucnosti kao sto recimo "dummy oblacici" Time bi dobili "comic page composer". Sledeca faza bi bila vise "comic page composer"-a ali to je vec trivijalno . Hm... ostaje jedno pitanje... Da li sam ja lud, ako mislim, da bi nesto takvo bilo koristno za profesionalce a mozda i one koji to nisu?
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cat claw
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Posted - 17/03/2011 : 22:55:34
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Mislim da si lud, ali uzmi to sa rezervom posto spadam u ono sto klinci zovu zaostao u sedamdesetim. S prakticne strane gledano vec postoje 3D programi koji ti projektuju prostor, neki su cak i jednostavni za koriscenje. U kombinaciji sa nekim Bimbo Poser programom daju bas ono sto ti zelis da stavis u jedan program. Da li je vredno truda i vremena? |
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Zagor12
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Croatia
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cat claw
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Jur
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Slovenia
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Posted - 18/03/2011 : 09:07:07
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quote: Originally posted by cat claw
Mislim da si lud, ali uzmi to sa rezervom posto spadam u ono sto klinci zovu zaostao u sedamdesetim. S prakticne strane gledano vec postoje 3D programi koji ti projektuju prostor, neki su cak i jednostavni za koriscenje. U kombinaciji sa nekim Bimbo Poser programom daju bas ono sto ti zelis da stavis u jedan program. Da li je vredno truda i vremena?
Ne znam sta sve postoji od programa ali ono sto znam meni nije bas prakticno za ono sto bih ja koristio. Ali da, bilo bi dosta posla oko toga pa verovatno nece nista ozbilnijeg ispasti od te ideje.
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