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Risar_69
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Posted - 26/12/2010 : 22:29:09  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Risar_69 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mislim, da to zaslužuje svoj topic
Ima i na hrvatskom jeziku:
Puno pozdrava svim društvima Zeitgeist-znam da je i hrvatsko-jako i srpsko društvo:


Preporučujem i poručujem, kad če tačno da bude premijera u kinima. SRETNO!
Imajte volju i budite neprilagodjeni.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgif3KwWuEc
Ljudi pobjedjujemo uskoro i polako, ja mislim




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Za sve koji nisu videli Addendum-ispod imate titlove
http://www.zeitgeistaddendum.com/

Ovdje je lakše, da se ne trudite
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-170080874211423572#





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USKORO U SLOVENIJI:Film traje dva sata i po
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgif3KwWuEc

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Prevod v slovenščino je sicer malo slabši.


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Slične tekstove stavljaču ovdje. Kad bude objavljen novi film Zeitgeist-Forward, obavestiču vas, mislim da posle 25.1 dodje i na stranicu, tako da se ga može skinuti, naravno sa titlovima-podnapisima.
Puno mirnih dana svima.


pogledao:Preporučujem
http://vimeo.com/18720200

O Codexu Alimentariusu sam več nešto stavljao(idi dole)
http://forum.striparna.com/viewtopic.php?t=1492&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=180



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Posted - 18/01/2011 : 13:38:48  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Risar_69 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Čuvajte svoje pčele :) bojkotirajte lijekove bayer

Ni še jasno, zakaj umirajo ptice in ribe, v zvezi z znanimi pomori čebel pa je dokazano, da so za to krivi novi, izjemno strupeni pesticidi. Štiri evropske države so te pesticide že prepovedale … ostale države pa se delajo neumne in jih je treba malo spodbosti v zadnjo plat … Upam, da boste to storili z enakim veseljem kakor jaz. Na srečo veliki zastrupljevalec Bayer, ki te neonikotinske strupe izdeluje, tega v Sloveniji in celo v svoji matični državi, Nemčiji, ne sme več početi … Ko se potrošniki povežejo, se lahko kopje obrne v nasprotno smer in spravi celo globalne kriminalce tovrstnega kalibra na kolena.



Podobno se je pred kratkim pripetilo v Ameriki, ko so kupci, ki niso hoteli kupovati več mleka z rastnimi hormoni izdelovalca Monsanta, dosegli, da je moral Monsanto s proizvodnjo teh gensko spremenjenih hormonov prenehati. Kako? No, spet preko žepa. Ko je supermarketni gigant K-Mart opazil, da kupci to mleko striktno zavračajo (ja, hvala bogu za internet, kjer so se kupci ustrezno informirali, ker “strokovnjaki” tako ali tako ne znajo drugega, kot da ponavljajo neumne trditve iz Monsantovih pamfletov o neškodljivosti gensko spremenjene hrane) in ga mora stalno metati stran, je postavil Monsantu ultimat. Monsantu, ki brez K-Marta ni imel dovolj velikega trga, ni preostalo drugega, kot da izdelovanje tega hormona ukine. To je prva velika zmaga v nizu mnogih, ki bodo še sledile.



Poleg glasovanja s svojo denarnico lahko glasujemo tudi na druge načine. Naprimer s klikom na gumb SIGN THE PETITION v spodnjem mailu.



Na milijarde čebel je že umrlo zaradi človeške neumnosti in pohlepa. Čebele pa oplojujejo rastline in tako omogočajo rast hrane za nas in za živali iz naše prehranske verige. BREZ ČEBEL NI HRANE. In sesulo se bo še marsikaj, celotni ekosistemi bodo prenehali funkcionirati. Ne gre torej le za čebele, gre za preživetje nas vseh. Bayer vam žal ne bo plačal strahovite škode, ki jo je povzročil vam osebno in delčku planeta, ki vam kot Zemljanu in upravičencu do naravne dediščine Zemlje pripada. Čeprav trdno računajte, da nekega dne s skupnimi močmi dosežemo tudi to. Planet je last nas vseh, odkod torej pogoltni in zahrbtni korporaciji pravica, da si ga lasti in ga zastruplja, samo da bi si napolnila žepe, ne da bi se menila za uničujoče posledice za okolje? Ali ne da bi jo sploh kdo pocukal za rokav???



Bojkotirajte Bayer. Zavrnite v lekarni (ali pri zdravniku) Canesten kremo, Ciprobay in Glucobay. Zaničljivo se nasmehnite naivnemu ali morda celo podkupljenemu farmacevtu v lekarni, ki vam hiti ponujat Aspirin, in mu povejte, da Aspirin pomaga varovati srce toliko kot mišji prdec, poleg tega je sedaj s študijami dokazano tudi to, da Aspirin povzroča mikropoškodbe možganskih kapilar in s tem žal pospešuje pojav možganske kapi. Rupurut, Saridon, Linatero, Adalat in Palandro pa, hm … dajte svojemu kužku, da se polula nanje. (Če kužka nimate, si pod nujno enega omislite, ker bo vašemu zdravju koristil bolj kot pa vse našteto skupaj …)



Organizacija AVAAZ je na spletu orgaizirala zbiranje podpisov za totalno prepoved strupenih Bayerjevih pesticidov v EU. Potrebujejo jih milijon. To bo doseženo že v nekaj dneh, saj peticijo sleherno minuto podpiše na desetine sodržavljanov EU. Pa vendar, prispevajte svojega tudi vi. Naj Evropa vidi, kaj je to ‘enotni trg’. In razveseljivo, podobna akcija tačas poteka tudi v ZDA. Tako bo Evropa svetel zgled, ki bo pomagala nagniti jeziček na tehtnici tudi drugod. Več informacij o tem najdete v spodnjem članku in v linkih.



Neonikotinski pesticidi pa so šele začetek. J



Pazite na svoje zdravje. In čuvajte planet. Ne dopustite korporativnim kriminalcem, da nam ga vzamejo, kajti zdravje vašega telesa in zdravje našega planeta sta neločljivo povezana. Usmerjajte se v nakup ekološke in organske hrane in kozmetike, kadar le morete. Zločin je, da moramo te stvari plačevati dražje, ko pa je to edino, kar bi sploh smelo biti na policah. Podpirajte Fair Trade. Podpirajte vse, kar je trajnostno. Živite čimbolj naravno.



In povejte naprej. © Zdravje PovejNaprej





Od: Alex Wilks -- Avaaz.org [mailto:avaaz@avaaz.org]
Poslano: Monday, January 10, 2011 10:42 PM
Zadeva: Save the bees: amazing response



Wow! Over the weekend half a million of us have signed to save bees. Let's get to a million for the ban -- sign now, then send this to everyone

Dear friends,

Napaka! Ime datoteke ni navedeno.

Bees are dying off worldwide and our entire food chain is in peril. Scientists blame toxic pesticides and four European governments have already banned them. If we get the US and the EU to join the ban, other governments across the world could follow, and save bees from extinction. Sign the petition and forward this urgent appeal:


Napaka! Ime datoteke ni navedeno.



Silently, billions of bees are dying off and our entire food chain is in danger. Bees don't just make honey, they are a giant, humble workforce, pollinating 90% of the plants we grow.

Multiple scientific studies blame one group of toxic pesticides for their rapid demise, and some bee populations are recovering in countries where these products have been banned. But powerful chemical companies are lobbying hard to keep selling these poisons. Our best chance to save bees now is to push the US and EU to join the ban -- their action is critical and will have a ripple effect on the rest of the world.

We have no time to lose -- the debate is raging about what to do. This is not just about saving bees, this is about survival. Let’s build a giant global buzz calling for the EU and US to outlaw these killer chemicals and save our bees and our food. Sign the emergency petition now, and send it on to everyone and we’ll deliver it to key decision makers:

OVDJE JE PETICIJA
https://secure.avaaz.org/en/save_the_bees/?vl

Bees are vital to life on earth -- every year pollinating plants and crops with an estimated $40bn value, over one third of the food supply in many countries. Without immediate action to save bees many of our favourite fruits, vegetables, and nuts could vanish from our shelves.

Recent years have seen a steep and disturbing global decline in bee populations -- some bee species are already extinct and last week we learned that some US species are at just 4% of their previous numbers. Scientists have been scrambling for answers. Some studies claim the decline may be due to a combination of factors including disease, habitat loss and toxic chemicals. But increasingly, independent research has produced strong evidence blaming neonicotinoid pesticides. France, Italy, Slovenia and even Germany, where the main manufacturer Bayer is based, have banned one of these bee killers. But, Bayer continues to export its poison across the world

This issue is now coming to the boil as major new studies have confirmed the scale of this problem. If we can get European and US decision-makers to take action, others will follow. It won’t be easy. A leaked document shows that the US Environmental Protection Agency knew about the pesticide’s dangers, but ignored them. The document says Bayer’s "highly toxic" product is a "major risk concern to non target insects [honey bees]".

We need to make our voices heard to counter Bayer’s very strong influence on policy makers and scientists in both the US and the EU where they fund the studies and sit on policy bodies. The real experts -- the beekeepers and farmers -- want these deadly pesticides prohibited until and unless we have solid, independent studies that show they are safe. Let's support them now. Sign the petition below, then forward this email:

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/save_the_bees/?vl

We can no longer leave our delicate food chain in the hands of research run by the chemical companies and the regulators that are in their pockets. Banning this pesticide will move us closer to a world safe for ourselves and the other species we care about and depend on.

With hope,

Alex, Alice, Iain, David and all at Avaaz

MORE INFORMATION

Bee decline could be down to chemical cocktail interfering with brains
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jun/22/chemicals-bees-decline-major-study?INTCMP=SRCH

Bee briefing
http://www.soilassociation.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=RXLEm9WXrHk%3D&tabid=439

$15 Billion Bee Murder Mystery Deepens
http://www.businessinsider.com/colony-collapse-disorder-still-unsolved-lead-researcher-had-connections-to-bayer-2010-10

“Nicotine Bees" Population Restored With Neonicotinoids Ban
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/05/nicotine-bees-population-restored-with-neonicotinoids-ban.php

EPA memo reveals concern that pesticide causes bee deaths
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/green/detail?entry_id=79910

Beekeepers want government to pull pesticide
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/money/beekeepers-want-government-to-pull-pesticide-1107701.html

Bees in freefall as study shows sharp US decline
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jan/03/bumblebees-study-us-decline?INTCMP=SRCH

Pesticide industry involvement in EU risk assessment puts survival of bees at stake
http://www.corporateeurope.org/agribusiness/news/2010/11/16/pesticide-industry-future-bees

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Posted - 18/01/2011 : 23:25:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Risar_69 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ako hočete poduprijeti i podpisati peticiju... http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/The-future-that-Humanity-Deserves/



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Posted - 19/01/2011 : 01:10:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Risar_69 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Svi, koji ste na "fejsbuku", proverite, šta o vama objavljaju na spletu, po novome budu imali dostop do osobnih podataka, kao što su adrese i telefonski br. uporabnika.
A to nije baš po propisima o čuvanju osobnih podataka upotrebljivača sajta.

proveriti možete na www.Openbook.com

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Posted - 21/01/2011 : 00:28:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Risar_69 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Idemo napred :)
http://www.souvizija.si/video/zeitgeist_se_nadaljuje_moving_forward/?show=dd5e61c0cafc627bb37eb460c0ec39c8&playlist=36204d2b8b731a7c75dd1843941d9f98
kad dodje na hrvatskom, objaviču ili čete vidjeti sami POZDRAV!

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Posted - 21/01/2011 : 21:10:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Risar_69 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
da li je vreme za budjenje?
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1449706967823&oid=109857791665&comments


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Posted - 26/01/2011 : 18:13:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Risar_69 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Odlična trojka:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w


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Posted - 30/01/2011 : 22:10:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Risar_69 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Moving Forward SA PODNAPISI-TITLOVIMA-IDI dole na CC (srb, hrv, slo)
Prijatno!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w


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Nikola Tesla
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFBQvlcNCqU&feature=watch_response
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3fLkP04cww&feature=related


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Posted - 05/02/2011 : 21:07:04  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Risar_69 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Obrazovanje i svijest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmLkhAybbdY



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kak bi bilo, da nema vode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKRBwTJ_JJU


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Hvala za odlicne linkove!
Upravo download-iram najnovijeg Zaitgeist-a a i taj dokumentarac za Tesla treba biti interesantan! :)
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TRIALEKTIKA:
http://www.val-znanje.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=310%3Atrijalektika&catid=1%3Atekstovi&Itemid=171

http://www.val-znanje.com/

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Tako, tako ali je za pogledat, ako još niste videli:
http://www.facebook.com/ZeitgeistMovementMacedonia#!/video/video.php?v=177551845599320&oid=117131144990765&comments

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10 grešaka eu
http://hrsvijet.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=11593%3Avaclav-klaus-10-toaka-protiv-eu&catid=5%3Asvijet&Itemid=72

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http://www.kurir-info.rs/planeta/godina-pomora-68487.php

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svega svjesni... ovo jeste genijalno...
al nista se promjeniti nece, dzaba price i ukazivanje na problem, ja se vec spremam na buducnost tipa mad max

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quote:
Originally posted by Billy_the_Kid

svega svjesni... ovo jeste genijalno...
al nista se promjeniti nece, dzaba price i ukazivanje na problem, ja se vec spremam na buducnost tipa mad max



neče biti potrebno, pripremi se tipa filma As far as my feet will carry me-onaj dio filma, što čovjek hoda kroz Sibir :)
http://dnevnik.hr/vijesti/znanost-it/yasi-i-mega-oluja-u-sad-u-navijestaju-novo-ledeno-doba.html


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbKff8bBdbc

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Šta bi čovek znao, možda je i kontrola vremena? pogledajte
Pa i Tesla ja znao svašta...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys1txZ-baSk&feature=player_embedded
http://salonesoterica.wordpress.com/2008/06/11/video-japan-and-china-blame-the-us-haarp-program-for-catastrophic-earthquakes/


evo iz prošle godine par stranica :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kDG1QpGXy4&feature=related

http://www.bariumblues.com/
http://www.subvertednation.net/noctilucent-clouds-sinister-new-phenomenon/






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Zeitgeist smatram pozitivnim projektom jer ako nista potice ljude na razmisljanje. Pogotovo one koji nisu bas razmisljali, citali o temama koje se obradjuju unutra. Ali, koliko toga unutra stvarno ima smisla i veze s istinom?

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Taj Haarp nije u Zeitgeistu, pa kažu čak da i ne postoji.


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quote:
Originally posted by Mord

Zeitgeist smatram pozitivnim projektom jer ako nista potice ljude na razmisljanje. Pogotovo one koji nisu bas razmisljali, citali o temama koje se obradjuju unutra. Ali, koliko toga unutra stvarno ima smisla i veze s istinom?






Ja sam u tom društvo od početka. Šta ja mislim o tome?
Pa, pocijeni energiju, imamo je dosta oko sebe, bez lobija,lopova & CO, bez ljudi koji hteju imati pune džepove zbog energije. Sada plačujem npr grijanje 120eura, a kad bi imao alternativu, osim materiala ne bi trebalo plačati ništa, imaš dosta ljudi koji su sposobni to napraviti za male pare ali je opet tu birokracija, koja je nepotrebna, onda hrane ima dovoljno za sve, pa ima tu dosta stvari-od kako se rodiš- u Moving Forwardu je u početku dobro kazano od rodenja pa napred kakav je čovjek.
A znam da je trenutno, po članstvu u društvu, po broju na stanovnika, u svijetu na prvome mestu Hrvatska, odmah za njom smo mi.
A za ove krugove zgrada, to kod nas još nije tako brzo, ko če rušiti svoje kuče, ako ne jedan takav potres kao što je bio u Japanu.
Tu ne znam, možda je premik tektonskih ploča, a možda i Haarp. Čudno mi je jedino, da se sve odvija odjednom i lepo po nacrtu, da se ruši sve polako. blablabla... :)

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http://www.dnevno.hr/vijesti/svijet/video_pogledajte_kako_radi_tajno_americko_klimatsko_oruzje/197112.html


mislim da kaže za svakog, pa bilo od kuda si, slušajte i mislite si svoje...inače vrlo žalostno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev818n3MNVM&feature


Za sve i svašta još jedna ok stranica ala Marty Misterija
http://www.conopljanews.net/harp.html#PROJEKAT


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Zanimljivo, kako jeftino se možemo grijati, jedan primer :)
http://solar.freeonplate.com/solarni_kolektor.htm

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