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goksi
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Posted - 01/05/2012 : 00:57:48
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Krenuo sa čitanjem drugog trejda Derdevila. Ovo je sad već nešto potpuno drugo. Čini mi se da su ovo "klasične" epizode Derdevila gde se bori sa neprijateljima dok je Čovek bez straha zapravo priča za sebe. Vidim i da je drugi trejd krenuo od neke priče, za mene nepoznate, broj 158 u originalu. Koji su onda brojevi kod Čoveka bez straha i kad je on nastao? Ako može mala pomoć tu ko zna. Ako je ovo tačno na Wikipediji onda je upravo prvi broj iz dvojke u stvari prvi Milerov rad na Derdevilu? Barem tako stoji pod 1980-tim.
Inače i dvojka je super. Ova jurnjava sa Bullseye-om se baš odužila ali je zanimljiva. Iskreno, da me pitate zašto, ne bih znao da odgovorim zašto mi se baš Derdevil svideo, ali je super . Možda baš njegove osobine koje čine radnju dosta zanimljivom. Dvojka počinje radnjom koja se nastavlja na neku staru priču, ako sam dobro shvatio, ali se lako čita bez ikakvog predznanja. Bar mi se tako čini, ništa tu i nema nejasno . Čekam opet Kingpina, valjda sam se navikao od Helingena .
Dajte malo utiske vi što ste čitali ranije/kupili sada ! |
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Gil-galad
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Posted - 01/05/2012 : 01:18:45
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quote: Originally posted by goksi
Krenuo sa čitanjem drugog trejda Derdevila. Ovo je sad već nešto potpuno drugo. Čini mi se da su ovo "klasične" epizode Derdevila gde se bori sa neprijateljima dok je Čovek bez straha zapravo priča za sebe...
To je zato što je Čovek bez straha nastao nekih desetak godina nakon završetka Millerovog runa na redovnoj seriji, radi se o mini-serijalu. Miller je bio taj koji je osmislio Sticka i Elektru i uveo ih u DD-ov svet (najpre u regularnu seriju, gde je ključan upravo trenutak u kome se pojavi Elektra), a Čovek bez straha je origin priča proširena tim likovima, kako bi na neki način sve to bilo zaokruženo.
I donekle se razlikuje vreme koje je Matt proveo sa Elektrom u Čoveku bez straha i u redovnoj seriji... |
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jaki
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Posted - 01/05/2012 : 01:21:19
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Man without fears je mini serija koja je napravljena najkasnije ali je u njoj Miller ispričao DD početak. Ako ti je sad dobro kako li će biti kad Miller počne pisati Daredevila (od broja 168) |
Ja sam fetišist papira! |
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goksi
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Serbia
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Posted - 01/05/2012 : 01:34:46
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Zahvaljujem obojici, sad je jasnije. Jaki dobro mi je ovo, ali ipak Čovek bez straha izuva iz cipela . Fenomenalna stvar. Markos stavio tortu na šlag . |
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alexts
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Posted - 01/05/2012 : 12:05:38
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quote: Originally posted by goksi
Zahvaljujem obojici, sad je jasnije. Jaki dobro mi je ovo, ali ipak Čovek bez straha izuva iz cipela . Fenomenalna stvar. Markos stavio tortu na šlag .
Ne verujem da taj mini serijal može biti bolji od kasnijih Milerovih epizoda redovnog serijala, a ti prvo pročitaj sve pre nego što proglasiš šta ti je najbolje. |
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jaki
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goksi
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Posted - 01/05/2012 : 12:17:44
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alexts i jaki, sasvim moguće. Verujem vam jer ja sam pročitao za sada samo Čoveka bez straha i prvi deo drugog trejda "Elektra", tojest onaj deo sa Bulseye (80-tak strana). Samo sam rekao šta me za sada oduševilo. |
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jaki
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Luca_Torelli
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Posted - 01/05/2012 : 13:59:48
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quote: Originally posted by jaki
şamo ti naprid čitaj i javljaj utiske.baš me zanima koji dio će ti biti najbolji?
Čovjek bez straha dobro dođe kao uvodnik u nastanak Daredevila. Da me netko pita koja knjiga mi je najbolja, ne bih znao odgovoriti jer je svaka sama po sebi odlična. |
nebesa nisu humana... (Hrabal)
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Zlix
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no1
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Posted - 01/05/2012 : 19:28:12
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Do sada procitao prve tri,iako sam još pod dojmom prve. Razlog je vrlo jednostavan,tko se nije do sada sretao s Daredevilom kao ja,ovo je knjiga za nega. Nema potrebe čitati na desetke ili stotine sveski da bi to sve pohvatao.Ovdje sve sazna. Taman da više ne procitam niti jedan strip o Daredevilu(a nece biti tako;)),prva knjiga mi je dala sve što mi treba. Druga i treca knjiga su također dobre,tu ima dosta novih(starih) negativaca i zanimljivih prica. Sve u svemu odlicno izdanje!!
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Paka01
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swamp thing
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Posted - 02/05/2012 : 14:49:26
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quote: Originally posted by Paka01
...ali čeka se Swamp Thing To će bit kruna svega.
Ja ga imam na eng., ali se radujem zbog drugih  |
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Imrahil
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Windwalker
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Posted - 03/05/2012 : 16:42:50
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quote: Originally posted by Paka01
...ali čeka se Swamp Thing To će bit kruna svega.
A kaj je to točno? Neko močvarno čudovište? Ne djeluje mi baš zanimljivo. |
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 03/05/2012 : 19:13:20
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quote: Originally posted by Windwalker
A kaj je to točno? Neko močvarno čudovište?
Močvarno čudovište sa sjećanjima mrtvog čovjeka koje služi kao zaštitnik zajednice koja povezuje sve biljke na Zemlji i za mentora ima ciničnog engleskog čarobnjaka koji je ovisan o cigaretama i adrenalinu. |
Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins |
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swamp thing
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Posted - 03/05/2012 : 20:42:58
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quote: Originally posted by Windwalker
quote: Originally posted by Paka01
...ali čeka se Swamp Thing To će bit kruna svega.
A kaj je to točno?Neko močvarno čudovište? Ne djeluje mi baš zanimljivo.
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Windwalker
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Posted - 03/05/2012 : 22:05:58
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A protiv kakvih se stvari bori? I koji je tip stripa, superhero ili nešt slično?
Što ga točno čini izvrsnim?
Nemojte misliti da provociram, samo me zanima. Jer, imam nula predznanja o tome, a neda mi se googlat. |
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alexts
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Posted - 03/05/2012 : 23:02:11
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quote: Originally posted by Windwalker
A protiv kakvih se stvari bori? I koji je tip stripa, superhero ili nešt slično?
Što ga točno čini izvrsnim?
Nemojte misliti da provociram, samo me zanima. Jer, imam nula predznanja o tome, a neda mi se googlat.
Neko je jednom definisao taj žanr kao superherojski horor. |
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alexts
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Posted - 03/05/2012 : 23:06:37
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quote: Originally posted by alexts
[quote]Originally posted by Windwalker
A protiv kakvih se stvari bori? I koji je tip stripa, superhero ili nešt slično?
Što ga točno čini izvrsnim?
Nemojte misliti da provociram, samo me zanima. Jer, imam nula predznanja o tome, a neda mi se googlat.
Neko je jednom definisao taj žanr kao superherojski horor.
U stripovima koje je nekada davno crtao Berni Rajtson a u ex-YU su ih objavljivali Eks Almanah i Horor, Čudovište iz močvare se borilo protiv vukodlaka, skrpljenog čoveka, monstruma, robota, pa čak i Betmena.
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jaki
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Posted - 03/05/2012 : 23:06:44
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quote: Originally posted by Windwalker Jer, imam nula predznanja o tome, a neda mi se googlat.
Zbog ovoga ti namjerno ne bi odgovorio i da znam |
Ja sam fetišist papira! |
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 03/05/2012 : 23:07:08
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quote: Originally posted by Windwalker
A protiv kakvih se stvari bori? I koji je tip stripa, superhero ili nešt slično?
Što ga točno čini izvrsnim?
Nemojte misliti da provociram, samo me zanima. Jer, imam nula predznanja o tome, a neda mi se googlat.
Ti si idealan tip za one Fibrine foršpane. Štogod ti netko od nas kaže neće ni približno dočarati o kakvom se stripu radi dok ga ne vidiš vlastitim očima.
Mooreov Swamp Thing je mješavina superherojštine, horrora i ekologije, i jedan je od najboljih stripova koji postoje.
Zašto? Kažem, u to ćeš se najbolje uvjeriti sam. |
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swamp thing
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Posted - 03/05/2012 : 23:10:43
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Ne očekuj 'bum-tras' superherojski strip. On nema triko, punch-line, gedžete i sl. A ako očekuješ opuštajuću zabavu, nije za tebe. Što ne znači da nije zabavan, interesantan, itd., ali je malo, usuđujem se reći, 'dublji' superherojski horor (by alexts) strip. A to što ga čini izvrsnim je ljepše otkrivati u stripu, jer je tako dobro urađeno... Lijepo ovjeri prve epizode na skenu, pa ako te zainteresuje, odlično (ali samo Mooreov run, ono prije toga nije vrijedno pažnje - sem crteža). Imaš ovdje na sajtu sjajan tekst o Swampyju, mislim da ga je Djole napisao, malo da se upoznaš sa pričom prije nego je tata Moore preuzeo. |
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