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D.J.
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Sneaksie Thiefsie
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Posted - 30/12/2013 : 07:57:46
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quote: Originally posted by Deers
Od svega do sada zasmetala me samo jedna stavr, likovi na prvim stranicama ne bacaju nikakvu sjenu, greška crtača koju nisu popravili tušer ni kolorist.
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D.J.
stripovi.com suradnik
    

USA
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D.J.
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USA
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Posted - 30/12/2013 : 08:13:17
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quote: Originally posted by Deers
Autori, zaista ste mislili raditi strip o Zagoru, i to posljednju epizodu, a niste predvidjeli da će ljudi samo čekati da vam skoče na vrat? Onda ste trebali radit epizodu Diabolika, njegovi su fanovi pitomiji 
Od svega do sada zasmetala me samo jedna stavr, likovi na prvim stranicama ne bacaju nikakvu sjenu, greška crtača koju nisu popravili tušer ni kolorist.
Dobar komentar za ocekivanja i kritike. Mi zagorovci smo inace poznati po pitomosti. Zagor nam je kao clan obitelji, nekima i doslovno. Ako kojim slucajem budem imao drugog sina, zna se koje cu mu srednje ime dati. To sam odlucio prije nego sto je nedavno onaj talijanski autor dao to isto srednje ime sinu.
Odlican komentar za sjene na prvim stranicama! To mi je promaklo, a zaista nije tesko popraviti. |
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ddeki
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Posted - 30/12/2013 : 08:22:10
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Samo neko ko nikada nije uzeo olovku ili misa u ruke da nesto nacrta ili oboji moze davati olake kritike. Citava ekipa koja radi na ovom projektu je mogla da kaze: "Sta nam sve ovo treba, hajde da uzivamo u praznicnim danima i zasto da se mucimo za dzabe. Neka to uradi neko drugi". I onda je pitanje da li bi ikada imali ovaj strip. I pre nego sto neko bude kritikovao ovaj projekat, neka se dobro zamisli koliko je slobodnog vremena i rada utroseno u ovaj amaterski projekat, da bi mi uzivali u njemu. Imajte to u vidu!
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senad7
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Sweden
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Posted - 30/12/2013 : 08:32:23
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Svaka cast ekipi sto je radila na stripu....Meni licno se dopada kako se radnja odvija . Osma tabla mi je dobra... simbolicna... Sjekiru objesio na zid ,a knjigu zakona drzi u ruci. (Malo previse dima za svijecu) |
Sudbina stripa ovisi o intiligenciji citatelja. |
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Sneaksie Thiefsie
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PAJDO
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Croatia
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Posted - 30/12/2013 : 08:40:23
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Najvažnija tajna je otkrivena!!!!! Zagor preferira SC izdanja!!!! Ajmo vidit ko će izdavati HC od danas      |
In spite of my rage I´m still rat in a cage... |
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D.J.
stripovi.com suradnik
    

USA
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Sneaksie Thiefsie
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1Euro
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Posted - 30/12/2013 : 09:34:01
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Vidim da ima Zagor sliku roditelja nad posteljom. Inače ova 8 tabla mi je super nacrtana! Mislim, da svi trebamo sačekati do kraja stripa, pa čemo onda moči suditi samu priču itd,....jer tako komentiramo svaku pojedinu stranicu, pa ispada da vidimo same neke loše stvari, ali treba se opustiti i uživati u stripu. Ionako je to fanart i nije rečeno, da če Boneli stvarno prihvatiti to kao poslednju epizodu. Možda je poslednja epizoda več nacrtana, možda (nadajmo se!), da nečemo doživjeti poslednju epizodu još 20+ godina, neka samo Zagor izlazi,....i treba uzeti ovaj strip kao jedan od mogučih scenarija, kako bi "možda" izgledala poslednja epizoda. Zato bez veze neko uzrujavanje na temu priče. Na kraju ako stvarno nekada doživimo poslednju epizodu od strane Bonelija, vidjet čemo, da li su ovi momci nešto pogodili, i kako je na kraju STVARNO ispalo. Kako če STVARNO izgledati poslednja epizoda.....ovo je fanart za zabavu, a možda se na kraju i svidi Buratiniju pa če mu to poslužiti kao trailer, pa če on od te priče da napravi specialac od 160 stranica ili stvarno poslednju epizodu na 200 stranica itd,....
Sve u svemu, SVAKA ČAST EKIPI na trudu i svaki dan idem sa velikim zanimanjem da provirim u vaš topik! |
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velka031
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Opti
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Posted - 30/12/2013 : 11:03:16
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quote: Originally posted by 1Euro
Vidim da ima Zagor sliku roditelja nad posteljom.
Čudno, s obzirom da je ta slika, zajedno sa svime, uništena u Povratku u Darkwood, ali tu grešku su počinili i u SBE (Dugin most, zadnja str.) pa nije važno.
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Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübert ragungsgesetz!! |
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emirem
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Posted - 30/12/2013 : 11:56:29
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quote: Originally posted by D.J.
quote: Originally posted by PAJDO
Zagor preferira SC izdanja!!!! Ajmo vidit ko će izdavati HC od danas
Skuzio si moj inside joke na ovoj tabli!!! 
Anti-reklama libellusu!  |
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teller
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Slovenia
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Posted - 30/12/2013 : 12:08:03
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Ah,sta reci..dugo sam razmisljao sta napisati...u meni se sukobljavaju dvije teorije.,,,prva je da su se ti koji to rade svojski potrudili i namucili i odvazili svoj rad postaviti u izlog...druga je da ni u snu ne zelim procitat zadnjeg zagora,pa bio to ovaj od domacih ljudi ili onaj iz bonelli kuce...prosto mi je antipaticno i pomislit da se zagor penzionise i prestane borit za mir u darkvudu,pogotovo kad znamo da su velike nepravde do indijanca u tim godinama tek dobijalena moci...jos se tex kuburio sa svim vrstama nepravda sto godina kasnije a zagot bi tek tako obesio sekiru na zid?..nema sanse,neznam i ne trudim se mislit sa cim bi se bavio,ali odmarao ili izigravao piskaralo sigurno nebi.... Na stranu trud autora,ne mogu rec da mi je crtez,scenario ili kolor vrh vrhova...jos je kolor i najbolje u stripu....sve mi je to prosjek i vise nego me odusevio strip-odusevljava me entuzijazam i trud-na tome skidam kapu.... Sandin crtez je dobar ali vidjeli smo vec bolje...i uspjesnije...ovo mi je predjetjinjast crtez za tako ozbiljan strip kao sto je zadnji zagor.... Ako ne drugo,autori a i mi shvatili smo da radit strip nije lako..pa jos zadovoljit i odusevit citatelje...pogotovo zagora. Cestitke za trud i entuzijazam...ali ZADNJI Zagor?...zar ste poludjeli...jos ce proteci vode u darkvudu do tada...ja cu uzivat u zagorovim avanturama bez da mi u podsvjest ude zagor penzioner.... |
CITAJTE TELLERA,... DA BI POSTALI BOLJI LJUDI! STRIP JUNAK KOJI UCI POŠTENJU I PRAVDI!
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guderian
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Posted - 30/12/2013 : 14:44:40
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Samo da se nadovežem na prethodno što sam napisao.
Zamislimo situaciju gdje Zagor dolazi na neku feštu u nečiju rezidenciju i tamo bude sva svita.
Tada u jednom trenutku neki potpukovničić se počne hvaliti kako se upravo vratio iz jedne vojne protiv "smrdljivih" crvenih i kako im je dao dobru lekciju. Još nadoda da su skvo i djeca skvičali ko praščići na klanju.
I da večeras ne može predugo ostati jer ujutro ide u Darkvud naučiti pameti pleme nekoga Tonke.
U idučoj sceni, Zagor, crven u licu kaže da također ide ranije doma kako bi napisao protesno pismo predsjedniku u kojem će iskazati svo svoje nezadovoljstvo onim što je čuo.
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guderian
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mladjo
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sumohrvat
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1Euro
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Posted - 30/12/2013 : 16:20:33
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quote: Originally posted by guderian
Samo da se nadovežem na prethodno što sam napisao.
Zamislimo situaciju gdje Zagor dolazi na neku feštu u nečiju rezidenciju i tamo bude sva svita.
Tada u jednom trenutku neki potpukovničić se počne hvaliti kako se upravo vratio iz jedne vojne protiv "smrdljivih" crvenih i kako im je dao dobru lekciju. Još nadoda da su skvo i djeca skvičali ko praščići na klanju.
I da večeras ne može predugo ostati jer ujutro ide u Darkvud naučiti pameti pleme nekoga Tonke.
U idučoj sceni, Zagor, crven u licu kaže da također ide ranije doma kako bi napisao protesno pismo predsjedniku u kojem će iskazati svo svoje nezadovoljstvo onim što je čuo.
Da li možete to zamisliti?
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1Euro
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Posted - 30/12/2013 : 16:24:59
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quote: Originally posted by sumohrvat
Ja uplacujem jedinicu na gambit :) ovo me sad bas zanima jer bi ipak trebala biti buduca nevjesta:)
ja mislim da je D.J. "old school" čitaoc i da če ga vjenčati sa Fridom Lang, iako bi možda bolji odabir bila mlada Virginia, nego neka "stara" koka kao što je Frida..... Ipak je Virginia mlada pustolovka iz Amerike, Fisleg joj je ujak,....dok je Frida "rabljena roba"....pa neče valjda Zagor dobiti "sloppy seconds" |
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Brdar
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 30/12/2013 : 17:20:48
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Jos jednom hvala za rijeci podrske, kako za projekt, tako i za moj kolor. Naravno, ne smetaju nam ni kritike.  
@ senokute - odlicna konstatacija za crnu boju/sjenu! Kad bih dobio ovakvo popratno objasnjenje pri konstataciji da je moj kolor los, to bi bila argumentovana kritika, a ne subjektivni stav pojedinca o mom radu. Inace, crtez mi je ok i takav kakav je u stripu (naravno, nije sad u rangu Moebiusa, ali za amaterski uradak smatram da je sasvim solidan). 
@ legaz - u pravu si za lipsanje pri krecenju, i ovako sam se poprilicno namucio zbog stiske sa vremenom, ali mislim da je vrijedilo, bez obzira na pohvale i kritike. 
@ deers - ne bjezimo od argumentovanih i konstruktivnih kritika, naprotiv! Inace, vec sam prepravljao neke sitne stvari pa mi je bilo neugodno da idem prepravljati krupnije jer sam smatrao (i dalje smatram) da je to direktno mjesanje u crtacev stil, a to sam iz postovanja prema njegovom radu/stilu svakako zelio izbjeci. 
Dakle, no hard feelings, idemo dalje slow'n'easy.   |
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emirem
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Posted - 30/12/2013 : 18:37:37
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quote: Originally posted by Brdar
idemo dalje slow'n'easy.  
Maestro! Molio bih te da kad stignem nacrtati jedan crtez da ga koloriras u vezi je Zagora (naravno ) pa cu ga staviti na koji njegov topik. Vec sam suradjivao sa Ddekijem (hvala na koloriranju Dex ) pa bi htio malo da i tebe "testiram"  Da sam koloriram u photoshopu nemam "zivaca" gledati tutoriale na youtubeu jer trebam poznavati milion pojmova, probao sam i u GIMP-u 2 (savjet Ppatka) ali fijasko...treba cajta i strpljenja,postupak bi i Ghandija pretvorio u raging bulla . |
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Brdar
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Friki
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Croatia
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Posted - 31/12/2013 : 00:09:38
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Pridružujem se čestitkama ! D.J.,Sanda,Kritični,Brdar,Curunir,Legaz,svaka vam dala !! Za fan projekt je zbilja dobar strip,drago mi je da ste odlučili nešto napraviti za svoju dušu ( i našu ).Samo dalje gurajte,kritika normalno da ima,kritiziraju se i profesionalni Bonelli crtači i scenaristi.
Zagor zauvijek    !
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