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DODSFERD
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Posted - 14/01/2018 : 22:58:47
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quote: Originally posted by selanne
quote: Originally posted by velka031
Odlično ovo izgleda, sad da se čovjek pita, koji kurac su nam trebali goluže i gospe, ali tako to ide kod nas.
Samo polako, tek su dvije pobjede tu. Jedna protiv ispodprosječne ekipe, druga protiv ekipe za koju nisam siguran koje joj je pravo lice - ono odlično protiv Švedske ili ovo večeras.
Island je slično odigrao obje utakmice i ne vidim nekakve razlike, nakon vrlo dobrog/odličnog 1. poluvremena upao u crnu rupu u 2. Kada im zaustaviš Palmarssona ta momčad nema pričuvnih rješenja, protiv Švedske im se nije osvetilo jer su imali veliku razliku, ali večeras nije bilo spasa. |
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Tonka24
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 01:48:24
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Zašto pokušavaš omalovažiti dvije pobjede? Imam dojam da kada bi dobili Njemačku 10 golova razlike, napisao bi: " švabe nisu imali svoj dan..." Ili je to samo dojam? Nije nikoga lako dobiti na bilo kojem prvenstvu 10 razlike, a ako tome nadodamo,suparništvo i važnost utakmice... Također, zar je malo dobiti jedan Island 7 razlike? |
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selanne
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 07:22:45
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quote: Originally posted by Tonka24
Zašto pokušavaš omalovažiti dvije pobjede? Imam dojam da kada bi dobili Njemačku 10 golova razlike, napisao bi: " švabe nisu imali svoj dan..." Ili je to samo dojam? Nije nikoga lako dobiti na bilo kojem prvenstvu 10 razlike, a ako tome nadodamo,suparništvo i važnost utakmice... Također, zar je malo dobiti jedan Island 7 razlike?
Ne omalovažavam, samo ne vjerujem da su Srbi i Islanđani dovoljno kvalitetni da se stvori prevelika euforija. Jučer se moglo vidjeti koliko je Srbija ustvari loša, a DODSFERD je najbolje pojasnio što je s Islandom - previše ovise o jednom igraču. Ekipa je dobra, nastavi li se ovakva podrška vratara i pridoda li se tome lijevi bek i pivot, u drugom krugu će to biti odlično. Po onome što su dosad pokazali, Norvežani i Francuzi u Zagrebu će biti pravi test, na te pobjede ne mogu imati nikakav prigovor.  |
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selanne
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 07:28:15
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quote: Originally posted by DODSFERD
quote: Originally posted by selanne
quote: Originally posted by velka031
Odlično ovo izgleda, sad da se čovjek pita, koji kurac su nam trebali goluže i gospe, ali tako to ide kod nas.
Samo polako, tek su dvije pobjede tu. Jedna protiv ispodprosječne ekipe, druga protiv ekipe za koju nisam siguran koje joj je pravo lice - ono odlično protiv Švedske ili ovo večeras.
Island je slično odigrao obje utakmice i ne vidim nekakve razlike, nakon vrlo dobrog/odličnog 1. poluvremena upao u crnu rupu u 2. Kada im zaustaviš Palmarssona ta momčad nema pričuvnih rješenja, protiv Švedske im se nije osvetilo jer su imali veliku razliku, ali večeras nije bilo spasa.
Slabiji su sinoć bili u prvom poluvremenu nego u prvom poluvremenu protiv Švedske, kad sam spominjao razliku, najviše sam mislio na njihove bekove, koji nisu bili toliko raspucani, a ne znam zašto su malo igrali Karason i Gudmundsson. Protiv Švedske su bili odlični, a Magnusson i Smarason me se nisu dojmili sinoć. |
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velka031
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 15:37:21
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quote: Originally posted by DODSFERD
quote: Originally posted by selanne
quote: Originally posted by velka031
Odlično ovo izgleda, sad da se čovjek pita, koji kurac su nam trebali goluže i gospe, ali tako to ide kod nas.
Samo polako, tek su dvije pobjede tu. Jedna protiv ispodprosječne ekipe, druga protiv ekipe za koju nisam siguran koje joj je pravo lice - ono odlično protiv Švedske ili ovo večeras.
Island je slično odigrao obje utakmice i ne vidim nekakve razlike, nakon vrlo dobrog/odličnog 1. poluvremena upao u crnu rupu u 2. Kada im zaustaviš Palmarssona ta momčad nema pričuvnih rješenja, protiv Švedske im se nije osvetilo jer su imali veliku razliku, ali večeras nije bilo spasa.
Ma kako god završilo, a vjerujem da neće ispod polufinala, Lino je doktor rukometa za ona dva nesretnika koja sam spomenuo, pa to je valjda jasno. Iako i on ima diskutabilnih odluka, ali nećemo ih spominjati ukoliko se uđe barem u polufinale. |
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selanne
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 15:46:20
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Lino je za Golužu izmislio rukomet, tu se slažem. Babića ne bih toliko podcjenjivao, on je više pažnje na sebe privukao nekim nepotrebnim zastranjivanjem u druge aspekte života u pogrešno vrijeme, da tako kažem. Opet, mislim da je dobar trener. Lino čak i nije toliki rukometni stručnjak koliko ima talenta za prepoznavanje dobrog igrača koje drugi ne znaju ili su ih zaboravili (Kaleb, Lacković, Cindrić), te hrabrosti odraditi neke stvari koje sigurno nijedan drugi trener ne bi uradio. Tu prije svega mislim na vraćanje Vorija u reprezentaciju. Dobar sam prijatelj s Marinom Marićem, dugo smo igrali skupa i ja sam bio poprilično iznenađen i razočaran što je on ispao, a Vori ostao, jer znam koliko mu je stalo do ovoga prvenstva i bio sam uvjeren da može koristiti ekipi više nego Vori. Međutim, nakon Vorijeve sinoćnje predstave u obrani, nitko nema pravo prigovoriti Lini ni na idućih 10 loših odluka vezanih za bilo kojega drugog igrača. |
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 17:32:13
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Ukupno gledajući reprezentacija je ostavila puno bolji dojam za vrijeme Goluže nego kada je došao Babić. Francuzi su tada 2 puta pometeni sa 7 razlike a jedna Danska kao tadašnji europski prvak čak sa 11. Problem je bio u tome što Goluža jednostavno nije znao pripremiti momčad za polufinalni dvoboj, prije toga uvjerljive pobjede protiv jakih protivnika i onda potpuni zastoj kada treba izboriti finale. Za vrijeme Babića momčad nije imala igru ni u početnim fazama turnira, jedino mu se mora priznati ona nevjerojatna pobjeda od 14 razlike protiv domaćina Poljske i dvije sigurne pobjede protiv Norveške, sve ostalo mučenje i negledljiva igra. Vidjet ćemo što će sada biti sa Červarom, on je u ranijem mandatu često znao dovući momčad do finala, čak i kada se to nije očekivalo (kao npr. 2010.), samo što je u većini tih finala napravio previše grešaka pa su izgubljena neka koja je realno trebalo dobiti (2005. i 2009.) |
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 19:01:52
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Kakvo poluvrijeme Slovenaca, ali moraju igrati na sve ili ništa ako ne žele u drugi krug bez bodova. |
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 19:29:25
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Suci su baš odlučili pomoći Njemačkoj da slučajno ne izgubi, kakva bezvezna isključenja daju Slovencima. |
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Dukidule
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 19:30:55
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45. minut - fali samo još da neko zapali cigaretu u bilizini Vujovića i eto ti požara koji sve zagrebačke vatrogasne službe skupa ugasiti neće!  |
Za koga ja navijam samo je moja stvar. A ljubav je jedna, jedina... |
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selanne
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 19:33:03
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Šta ovo reče Vujović?  "Borite se, ako nas već moraju pobijediti, neka se vidi da su nas pokrali" Stvarno svaka čast Slovencima, a sramota za suce. |
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selanne
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 20:01:13
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Strašno. |
Where other men blindly follow the truth, remember - nothing is true. Where other men are limited by morality or law, remember - everything is permitted. We work in the dark to serve the light. We are assassins! Nothing is true, everything is permitted. |
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giant
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 20:03:21
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Kakva sramota za šport. Nevjerojatno. Sramota bez primjere. Nek mi neko ob jasni zasto to isključenje? Pa sta to ima veze? Gde je faul njemaca u poslednjem napadu? |
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selanne
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 20:05:23
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Ovo je novo pravilo, ne smije se ovako presjecati lopta kad protivnik izvodi centar, to je izravni crveni i penal. |
Where other men blindly follow the truth, remember - nothing is true. Where other men are limited by morality or law, remember - everything is permitted. We work in the dark to serve the light. We are assassins! Nothing is true, everything is permitted. |
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selanne
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 20:06:23
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Ali one dvije minute Kavtičniku kad u kontru nije ni pipnuo Gensheimera, pa dodatno još nekome dvije minute radi prigovora... Tu su Nijemci i stigli u egal. |
Where other men blindly follow the truth, remember - nothing is true. Where other men are limited by morality or law, remember - everything is permitted. We work in the dark to serve the light. We are assassins! Nothing is true, everything is permitted. |
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 20:13:45
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Kakva je ovo krađa bila. Pratio sam na mađarskom streamu pa nisam odmah skužio na što se Nijemci žale, mislio da traže poništenje zadnjeg slovenskog gola zbog eventualnog prijestupa, kad ono izmišljeni sedmerac zbog ometanja nekoliko sekundi prije kraja. Nešto su dugo suci pregledavali snimku, kao da su tražili i najmanju mogućnost kako da Njemačka izbjegne poraz, sramota. |
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selanne
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 20:24:42
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Ja sam mislio da traže da se poništi gol jer je Blagotinšek navodno gazio u njihovu polovicu prilikom dodavanja s centra, jer to se nije dogodilo, ali ovo što su sudili sam već viđao. |
Where other men blindly follow the truth, remember - nothing is true. Where other men are limited by morality or law, remember - everything is permitted. We work in the dark to serve the light. We are assassins! Nothing is true, everything is permitted. |
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teller
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 20:25:00
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kad si mali, svi te jeb*u! Vujo legenda,... da je sačuvao živce... Bruka za rukomet... ionako ga ne volim previše, sad ču ga pratit još manje. |
CITAJTE TELLERA,... DA BI POSTALI BOLJI LJUDI! STRIP JUNAK KOJI UCI POŠTENJU I PRAVDI!
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 20:26:58
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Mislim da se radi o ovome, zar suci stvarno misle da bi ovaj sa centra dao gol da nije bio ometan? Takvo nešto se ne sudi u ovakvoj utakmici sa ovakvom završnicom, jedino ako nekome želiš jako pomoći. Što bih volio ovu Njemačku u polufinalu, ili još bolje u finalu, da ih razbijemo k'o pičke, valjda se ne bi usudili suditi protiv domaćina bez obzira koliko bio jak njemački rukometni savez. U zadnjih 15-ak godina nitko se nije toliko nauživao sudačke naklonosti kao Njemačka i Francuska, pa dokle više tako.
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Darth Ivan
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 20:27:02
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Koja drama, na vrhuncu!
Ja sam mislio da je bila riječ o prekršaju u napadu prije dodavanja i pogotka, ali eto. |
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selanne
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 20:38:08
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Pravilo je jasno, kod izvođenja centra protivnik ne smije stajati u središnjem krugu. Problem je bio prije, cijelo drugo poluvrijeme su suci gurali Njemačku. |
Where other men blindly follow the truth, remember - nothing is true. Where other men are limited by morality or law, remember - everything is permitted. We work in the dark to serve the light. We are assassins! Nothing is true, everything is permitted. |
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 20:50:13
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Najveći problem je što suci ne bi ništa sudili i utakmica bi završila da se Nijemci nisu žalili, vjerojatno ne zbog te situacije već zbog traženja prijestupa, ali kada već tamo nisu mogli ništa izvući onda su našli nešto drugo. Zar netko stvarno vjeruje da je potrebno toliko vremena da se prouči ta situacija sa centrom. Ma daj, prvo su oni tražili prijestup pa onda se okrenuli na ovo. |
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selanne
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 20:59:37
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Ja sam bio uvjeren da će poništiti gol jer mi se činilo da je Blagotinšek gazio u protivničku polovicu kad je izvodio centar, onda sam vidio da nije. |
Where other men blindly follow the truth, remember - nothing is true. Where other men are limited by morality or law, remember - everything is permitted. We work in the dark to serve the light. We are assassins! Nothing is true, everything is permitted. |
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selanne
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 22:21:17
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Česi dobiše Dance... Bit će ovo zanimljivo prvenstvo. |
Where other men blindly follow the truth, remember - nothing is true. Where other men are limited by morality or law, remember - everything is permitted. We work in the dark to serve the light. We are assassins! Nothing is true, everything is permitted. |
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 15/01/2018 : 22:22:35
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Dobro se držala Crna Gora, ali se u odlučujućim trenucima osjetilo da je Makedonija bolja momčad. Prva velika senzacija na prvenstvu; Češka koja je protiv Španjolske izgledala kao poluamaterska momčad pobjeđuje Dansku. Uspjeh je veći jer je u završnici Češka imala 2 igrača manje i uspjela obraniti gol prednosti. Ako se poklopi da u zadnjem kolu Danska izgubi od Španjolske, Češka može proći dalje čak i uz poraz od Mađarske sa 3 razlike. |
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