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Dwayne_Looney
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Posted - 07/12/2017 : 13:20:08
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Ne trebaš čitati da bi znao da ti nešto ne valja. Ako ti se ne sviđa žanr, temeljne postavke, nema se tu šta čitati. |
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Dalen
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DODSFERD
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Pitcairn Island
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Posted - 07/12/2017 : 14:47:09
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quote: Originally posted by Dwayne_Looney
Ne trebaš čitati da bi znao da ti nešto ne valja. Ako ti se ne sviđa žanr, temeljne postavke, nema se tu šta čitati.
Istina, meni je za neke stripove dovoljno samo prelistati ih da znam jesu li uopće vrijedni pažnje. Ista stvar kao i sa muzikom, što ću ići slušati npr. Madonnu kada znam da je to daleko od onoga što tražim. Ali, svakako je dobra stvar da postoje različite stvari za različite ukuse, pa kome što odgovara. |
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marcho
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Posted - 07/12/2017 : 18:33:32
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Mister No i Ken Parker... Teška odluka.
Zagor bi bio treći, ali samo zbog nostalgije. |
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mpavin
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Niue
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MaTex
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ivanl
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Croatia
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Posted - 08/12/2017 : 04:26:53
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quote: Originally posted by DODSFERD
quote: Originally posted by Dwayne_Looney
Ne trebaš čitati da bi znao da ti nešto ne valja. Ako ti se ne sviđa žanr, temeljne postavke, nema se tu šta čitati.
Istina, meni je za neke stripove dovoljno samo prelistati ih da znam jesu li uopće vrijedni pažnje. Ista stvar kao i sa muzikom, što ću ići slušati npr. Madonnu kada znam da je to daleko od onoga što tražim. Ali, svakako je dobra stvar da postoje različite stvari za različite ukuse, pa kome što odgovara.
Ne dijelim takvo misljenje u svezi stripova. Mislim da se moze nesto probati procitati, pa dati svoj sud, narocito sto se tice novijih Bonelli serijala. Smatram ako nesto nisi procitao/proucio ne mozes ni znati da li je za tebe...(za Madonnu se pak, slazem) Tako je I kod, recimo, jela, kako ces znati da je dobro ili lose, ako ga nisi nikad probao... Probaj, pa slobodno reci da ne valja. Imam takav odnos u zivotu, osim prema drogama, za koje znamo da ne valjaju, (mada bivsim heroinskim ovisnicima uvjek oci zasjaje kad pricaju o tome I kunu se da nista u zivotu nije kao to...tja...) |
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karlitos
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Posted - 08/12/2017 : 22:05:39
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quote: Originally posted by ivanl
quote: Originally posted by DODSFERD
quote: Originally posted by Dwayne_Looney
Ne trebaš čitati da bi znao da ti nešto ne valja. Ako ti se ne sviđa žanr, temeljne postavke, nema se tu šta čitati.
Istina, meni je za neke stripove dovoljno samo prelistati ih da znam jesu li uopće vrijedni pažnje. Ista stvar kao i sa muzikom, što ću ići slušati npr. Madonnu kada znam da je to daleko od onoga što tražim. Ali, svakako je dobra stvar da postoje različite stvari za različite ukuse, pa kome što odgovara.
Ne dijelim takvo misljenje u svezi stripova. Mislim da se moze nesto probati procitati, pa dati svoj sud, narocito sto se tice novijih Bonelli serijala. Smatram ako nesto nisi procitao/proucio ne mozes ni znati da li je za tebe...(za Madonnu se pak, slazem) Tako je I kod, recimo, jela, kako ces znati da je dobro ili lose, ako ga nisi nikad probao... Probaj, pa slobodno reci da ne valja. Imam takav odnos u zivotu, osim prema drogama, za koje znamo da ne valjaju, (mada bivsim heroinskim ovisnicima uvjek oci zasjaje kad pricaju o tome I kunu se da nista u zivotu nije kao to...tja...)
Upravo to, postoji tisuću stripova za koje sam mislio da mi se neće svidijeti, a na kraju su mi ispali fenomenalni. Propustio bih puno stripova da sam razmišljao poput Dodsferda. Mislim, bez uvrede ikome, ali ponekad se ponašate poput djece. Uvjerite sami sebe da vam se neki strip neće svidjet i onda ga izbjegavate. Dajte svim stripovima priliku.  |
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 08/12/2017 : 23:32:06
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Izgleda da neki uopće ne shvaćaju određene stvari, tj. da postoje ljudi koje ni malo ne zanima SF, fantasy i slični žanrovi u stripovima. Zašto bih čitao nešto što me već u startu odbija, bez obzira kako to scenaristički bilo napravljeno. To je isto kao da ja nekome, tko to uopće ne sluša, preporučim neke muzičke albume i kažem mu preslušaj ih nekoliko puta, možda ti se svide. Evo karlitos, daj ovome (meni najboljem albumu ikad) priliku i preslušaj ga samo jednom u cijelosti, garant nećeš stići dalje od prve stvari. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvENeQoloew Ljudi moji, pa nismo mazohisti da se mučimo sa svime i svačime. |
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karlitos
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Posted - 09/12/2017 : 10:13:02
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quote: Originally posted by DODSFERD
Izgleda da neki uopće ne shvaćaju određene stvari, tj. da postoje ljudi koje ni malo ne zanima SF, fantasy i slični žanrovi u stripovima. Zašto bih čitao nešto što me već u startu odbija, bez obzira kako to scenaristički bilo napravljeno. To je isto kao da ja nekome, tko to uopće ne sluša, preporučim neke muzičke albume i kažem mu preslušaj ih nekoliko puta, možda ti se svide. Evo karlitos, daj ovome (meni najboljem albumu ikad) priliku i preslušaj ga samo jednom u cijelosti, garant nećeš stići dalje od prve stvari. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvENeQoloew Ljudi moji, pa nismo mazohisti da se mučimo sa svime i svačime.
Pa nije isto poslušati par pjesma pa reći da ti se album ne sviđa i reći da ti se neki strip ne sviđa samo zbog žanra. Npr. to bi bilo kao da ja sad kažem da ovo neću niti probati poslušati jer je black metal.  Otvorio sam link i u pravu si, ne leži mi takva glazba, no tko zna, možda mi je to baš mogao postati omiljeni album, a ja sam ga automatski odbio jer je black metal?
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RAKOSI4
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Posted - 09/12/2017 : 10:28:15
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I kod mene je slučaj da prelistam strip i vidim odma je li mi se sviđa ili ne . Nekad bi iša logikom da ga pročitam pa vidim , ali ipak mi se ne bi svidija .Ako mi crtež ne odgovara sve pada u vodu ,pa i vrhunski scenarij. |
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nagor
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 09/12/2017 : 15:29:55
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Naravno da me muče, već je 12. mjesec a ja još nisam bio na godišnjem odmoru jer nema ljudi. Što se tiče usporedbi, meni je preslušavanje jedne pjesme na albumu ekvivalent prelistavanju stripa. U oba slučaja ćeš moći procijeniti da li ti odgovara ono što vidiš/čuješ, a potrošit ćeš gotovo isto vremena. |
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ivanl
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Croatia
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Posted - 09/12/2017 : 18:06:48
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quote: Originally posted by DODSFERD
Naravno da me muče, već je 12. mjesec a ja još nisam bio na godišnjem odmoru jer nema ljudi. Što se tiče usporedbi, meni je preslušavanje jedne pjesme na albumu ekvivalent prelistavanju stripa. U oba slučaja ćeš moći procijeniti da li ti odgovara ono što vidiš/čuješ, a potrošit ćeš gotovo isto vremena.
Ma ni slucajno! Meni najdrazi I najbolji bendovi imaju losih trenutaka, bezveznih pjesama I sranje albuma, kako cu znati kakvi su ako ih nisam totalno preslusao/prostudirao. A kamoli govoreci o nepoznatim ili dovoljno nepoznatim bendovima I albumima koji su mi preporuceni... Moram to prostudirati kako treba. Samo kad se sjetim Franka Zappe, koliko me je "pilao", dok ga nisam shvatio. Danas mi je cisti genijalac. A vratimo se stripu, koliko sam samo onomad grijesio misleci kako je bezvezan taj Pratt I kako ne zna crtati, dok mi se na vrijeme nisu otvorile oci I shvatio sam ispred kakvog genijalnog djela 9-te umjetnosti stojim...Hocu reci da sam na preporuku, ali I svojim strpljenjem u oba slucaja dao sansu I nisam pozalio. To su doduse jedni od prvih primjera, iz daleke proslosti, ali ima ih I do dan danas. Dajem sansu, procitam/preslusam pa iskazem sud. |
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 09/12/2017 : 21:26:10
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I ja dajem šansu, kako muzici tako i stripu, ako je u pitanju nešto što me žanrovski barem malo privlači, tako sam otkrio mnoge albume kao i Magičnog Vjetra. Kada mi žanr nikako ne odgovara onda ne želim gubiti vrijeme sa time jer ne bi ničemu koristilo. |
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ivanl
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Posted - 09/12/2017 : 23:01:34
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Malo sto je u Bonellija dobro kao Magico vento. A ja se usudujem reci i sire i dalje. Perfektan serijal sa izvanrednim crtacima a sto je najvaznije prekinut i zavrsen na vrijeme. Da nema Kena, on bi mi bio numero uno! |
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Hercule Poirot
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Posted - 11/12/2017 : 11:44:04
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Možda bi trebalo napraviti anketu koja bi izuzela Zagora kao najdražeg strip junaka....U tom slučaju bi se mogle doznati i mnoge zanimljive stvari, a pritom i dozvoliti neku vrste skale; primjerice: top 3 najdraža Bonelli junaka, izuzev Zagora....Samo naglas razmišljam... |
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Dwayne_Looney
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Posted - 11/12/2017 : 12:08:23
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Ja mislim da bi valjalo nešto na način izbora za recenziju mjeseca, tipa 3 najbolja ili najdraža ili kakva već junaka pa prvom 3 boda, drugom 2 i trećem 1. |
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adriano
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ivanl
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Posted - 11/12/2017 : 13:47:33
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Bojim se, da je i tri mjesta premalo, pet mjesta za izbor bi vec bilo zadovoljavajuce... a zna se, odmah isprve, da bi Zagor sigurno kod vecine bio prvi. |
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Hercule Poirot
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Posted - 11/12/2017 : 14:05:21
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Da, baš zato Zagor ne bi uopće bio u kombinacijama... Bilo bi: 3 najdraža Bonelli junaka, bez Zagora...Ujedno, isprike King Warrioru što na ovom mjestu uopće raspravljamo o mogućnostima koje ne uključuju Zagora u kombinacijama... |
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velka031
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Posted - 11/12/2017 : 22:56:06
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quote: Originally posted by Hercule Poirot
Možda bi trebalo napraviti anketu koja bi izuzela Zagora kao najdražeg strip junaka....U tom slučaju bi se mogle doznati i mnoge zanimljive stvari, a pritom i dozvoliti neku vrste skale; primjerice: top 3 najdraža Bonelli junaka, izuzev Zagora....Samo naglas razmišljam...
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ivanl
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Posted - 13/12/2017 : 21:01:12
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Ajmo reci prvih pet! 1.Ken Parker 2.Magicni Vjetar 3.Dylan Dog 4.Nathan Never 5.Dragonero A ponekad i ne nuzno tim rasporedom... |
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velka031
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