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Bokoja
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Posted - 25/03/2021 : 14:42:06
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quote: Originally posted by Chui
A gle to dosta zavisi o tematici i konceptu dokumentarca. Lepageovi dokumentarci su naručeni dokumentarci od određenih strana da ode tamo i opiše što rade ti neki ljudi na nekim poslovima i kako žive u tim nekim uvjetima i onda vizualno oda poštovanje prirodnim čudesima i te ljude predstavi javnosti. Totalna kontra tome je recimo Sigorna zona Goražde jedan povijesni dokument koji ima za cilj izazvati suosjećanje i zgražanje, desant na emocije koliko je brutalan. Meni su svak na svoj način odlični, s tim da se Lepageovim slikama rado vraćam, a za brutalnost Goražda nakon prvog čitanja više nisam imao želudca za ponovo prolazit sve to. Znači oba autora su uspjela u svojim naumima :)
Upravo ovakva su i neka moja razmišljanja. Jasno je da su nastali u sklopu javnog zagovaranja, u poplavi angažovanih stripova danas, s tim da Lepage za advocacy uzima teme koje gotovo imaju nepodeljenu aktivističku podršku na globalnom nivou, protiv nuklearnih elektrana, globalnog zagrevanja, te je tu na sigurnom. Naravno da što je veštiji autor, to će suptilnije podvući poruku, ali ni teme kojima se Lepage bavi ne nailaze na već podeljeno tlo, kao kad recimo Sacco uradi projekat javnog zagovaranja koji je finansiran od strane Muslimanskog bratstva, već za njegove teme neki društveni konsenzus već postoji na planetarnom nivou. |
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Red Marquis
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Serbia
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Posted - 25/03/2021 : 15:35:36
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quote: Originally posted by Bokoja
Skoro je neshavtljivo kako Lepage, kad je već na Južnim francuskim teritorijama, upadljivo izbegava kritiku kolonijalizma, čak i kroz one romansirane istorijske pasaže u sepiji.
Malo bi bilo čudno da na naručeni rad od Francuskog instituta se on odazove na taj način. Ni u jednom svom delu se ne dotiče politike, može biti i da je oportunista a možda je prosto nezainteresovan za istu. |
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Chui
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Posted - 25/03/2021 : 15:39:36
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quote: Originally posted by Red Marquis
quote: Originally posted by Bokoja
Skoro je neshavtljivo kako Lepage, kad je već na Južnim francuskim teritorijama, upadljivo izbegava kritiku kolonijalizma, čak i kroz one romansirane istorijske pasaže u sepiji.
Malo bi bilo čudno da na naručeni rad od Francuskog instituta se on odazove na taj način. Ni u jednom svom delu se ne dotiče politike, može biti i da je oportunista a možda je prosto nezainteresovan za istu.
Pa neznam jel na tim otocima i antartici gdje je on bio uopće ikad bilo ikoga za kolonizirati osim životinja. Na antartici na toj bijeloj ploči nema ni njih. |
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Red Marquis
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Posted - 25/03/2021 : 16:34:13
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U Samotnim otocima je ipak spomenuo šta se desilo robovima koji su se nasukali na Tromelin. Nije ulazio u detalje, nije mu to fokus priče. |
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Bokoja
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Posted - 25/03/2021 : 17:46:32
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U pravu ste, sve to stoji, utisak mi je bio u smeru ako već do detalja opisuje uticaj na floru i faunu vrsta koje su naselili, i ako u kontekst stavlja čak zečeve i povrće, nekako mi nedostaju bar dve raskošne stranice u ovim stripovima sa onim njegovim mapama, gde bi bar malo potkačio tu kolonijalnu imperiju koja je bila druga po veličini i držala skoro 10% svetske teritorije, jer se tom periodu povremeno vraća kroz oba stripa. Tromelin tako neemotivno ovlaš preleti, da bi nas unosio u svako tankovanje goriva koje doživljavamo maltene u realnom vremenu. Ali da, subjektivna mi je više opaska oko istorijskog konteksta, verovatno suvišna. |
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Peyo
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BeaGea
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Posted - 28/04/2021 : 16:09:34
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quote: Originally posted by Red Marquis Ni u jednom svom delu se ne dotiče politike, može biti i da je oportunista a možda je prosto nezainteresovan za istu.
A Muchacho!? |
Kažite mi, jeste li se umorili Jesu li vas prevarili Je l'nas vrijeme pregazilo |
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sumohrvat
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Posted - 29/04/2021 : 17:24:32
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quote: Originally posted by BeaGea
quote: Originally posted by Red Marquis Ni u jednom svom delu se ne dotiče politike, može biti i da je oportunista a možda je prosto nezainteresovan za istu.
A Muchacho!?
Tamo se dotiče muških guzica tako da nitko nije ni primjetio politiku < stripu 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 |
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BeaGea
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Posted - 29/04/2021 : 18:23:55
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quote: Originally posted by sumohrvat
quote: Originally posted by BeaGea
quote: Originally posted by Red Marquis Ni u jednom svom delu se ne dotiče politike, može biti i da je oportunista a možda je prosto nezainteresovan za istu.
A Muchacho!?
Tamo se dotiče muških guzica tako da nitko nije ni primjetio politiku < stripu 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hehehe
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Kažite mi, jeste li se umorili Jesu li vas prevarili Je l'nas vrijeme pregazilo |
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Red Marquis
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Serbia
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Posted - 29/04/2021 : 23:51:31
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quote: Originally posted by sumohrvat
quote: Originally posted by BeaGea
quote: Originally posted by Red Marquis Ni u jednom svom delu se ne dotiče politike, može biti i da je oportunista a možda je prosto nezainteresovan za istu.
A Muchacho!?
Tamo se dotiče muških guzica tako da nitko nije ni primjetio politiku < stripu 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
10+ godina ima kad sam ovo pročitao, i da znaš da si u pravu. Toga se prvo setim, sandiniste sam zaboravio  |
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Bokoja
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Posted - 29/04/2021 : 23:56:36
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Muchacho je pretrpan PC temama, nema šta nije natrpao tom karakteru od uloga, autoritarne roditelje, njihove neostvarene ambicije, kontriranje desnici i religiji, porodici, te je i gay momenat sveden na pobunu, protagonista postaje gerilac, levičar, ubica, toliko stereotipa i opštih mesta sa kojima se zapravo probio. Divota je da nije nastavio flipcoinom nuryjevskih šablona već počeo da "tezgari" na angažovanim temama gde je odličan, i gde se pronašao i gde ga je i mainstream publika prepoznala. Svakako je potreban jak, vizuelno dopadljiv i pitak centar koji on godinama isporučuje. |
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sumohrvat
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Posted - 15/05/2021 : 23:00:36
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Uvijek me interesirala Antarktika. Čak sam razmišljao da se prijavim na neki od takvih poslova dole. Tako da mi je ovaj strip savršeno legao. I inače obožavam Lepagea... Mogla bi naša turistička zajednica ponudit čovjeku kakvo krstarenje jadranom pa neka napravi kakav strip o našoj obali i otocima kad već voli radit putopise 😊 |
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Bokoja
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Red Marquis
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Posted - 16/05/2021 : 13:20:05
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
Objavio bih ja Odiseja sutra da mi ga Maghen hoće prodati. Čak sam bio osobno kod njih u Parizu i kao, nema problema, samo pošaljite mail i ništa. Emmanuel je isto urgirao, pa ništa. Nikakav odgovor nikad nismo dobili. Ne razumijem.
Markose, ima li ikakvog napretka na ovom planu? |
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Markos
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anto
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Red Marquis
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Peyo
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sumohrvat
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Shaner
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BeaGea
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Posted - 01/06/2021 : 19:32:47
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Procital ovaj slikovni putopis i dobil kaj sam htel. Ne trazi novo citanje jer to je to. Nema tu nekih elemenata za novo ceprkanje. Zanimljivih elemenata u stripu svakako ima, nista pretenciozno ali sasvim dovoljno da nas informira o istrazivanjima na Antarktiku. Crtez je, ocekivano, odlican a fotografije se "neprimjetno" uklapaju. Vrlo dobar strip!
Ostaje u kolekciji kao svojevrsna enciklopedija za Antarktiku!
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Edited by - BeaGea on 01/06/2021 19:34:00 |
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SenG
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