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don_draper
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Posted - 05/10/2024 : 18:23:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send don_draper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Suportno mojim očekivanjima, Pratt je trenutno u top 20. Računam da će u idućoj kategoriji biti možda i jači po bodovima te će mu se u konačnici obračunati bolji rezultat, tako da vjerojatno neki 21.autor upada u kvotu.

I sell the fact that I can't be bought
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don_draper
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Posted - 05/10/2024 : 18:24:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send don_draper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Inače, stanje na ljestvici je malo tjesnije negoli na prijašnjem glasanju. Jedno ime strši na vrhu, ali sve dalje je dosta blizu.

Sutra kasnije navečer objavljujem rezultate.

I sell the fact that I can't be bought

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borg
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Serbia
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Member since 13/01/2020

Posted - 05/10/2024 : 19:52:42  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send borg a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ja sam Prata video u drugoj kategoriji. Pa ću ga tamo glasati. Možda nije fer da ga se dva puta nominira i da se zbira.
Možda da se uzme bolji od dva rezultata.


Resistance is futile.
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manhunter
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Switzerland
25372 Posts

Member since 17/09/2004

Posted - 05/10/2024 : 20:11:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send manhunter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
18 Christophe Chaboute
16 René Goscinny
14 Jean Van Hamme
12 Hermann
11 Cosey
10 Alejandro Jodorowsky
09 Hugo Pratt
08 Peyo
07 Moebius – Giraud, Jean
06 Enki Bilal
05 Emmanuel Lepage
04 Hergé
03 André Franquin
02 Greg
01 Jacques Tardi


I am legion. I do not forget. I do not forgive.


Edited by - manhunter on 05/10/2024 21:35:53
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Zula
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1053 Posts

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Posted - 05/10/2024 : 21:15:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Zula a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by manhunter

18 Christophe Chaboute
17 René Goscinny
16 Jean Van Hamme
15 Hermann
14 Cosey
13 Alejandro Jodorowsky
12 Hugo Pratt
...


Ne glasamo za njih 18, već 15.
Izbaci 17, 15 i 13 bodova

Edited by - Zula on 05/10/2024 21:16:05
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manhunter
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Switzerland
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Posted - 05/10/2024 : 21:36:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send manhunter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ispravio, hvala!

I am legion. I do not forget. I do not forgive.

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Felagund
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Croatia
872 Posts

Member since 01/10/2010

Posted - 06/10/2024 : 02:27:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Felagund a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Manu Larcenet (18)
Lewis Trondheim (16)
Alejandro Jodorowsky (14)
Fabien Nury (12)
Regis Loisel (11)
Xavier Dorison (10)
Zidrou (9)
Hergé (8)
Christophe Chaboute (7)
Emmanuel Lepage (6)
Cyril Pedrosa (5)
Wilfrid Lupano (4)
Benoît Peeters (3)
Patrick Cothias (2)
Jean-Marc Rochette (1)

Sve je relativno (E = mc^2)
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Mr. Bushido
stripovi.com suradnik



Croatia
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Member since 23/09/2005

Posted - 06/10/2024 : 03:05:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
01. René Goscinny 18
02. Lewis Trondheim 16
03. Jean-Michel Charlier 14
04. Patrick Cothias 12
05. André Franquin 11
06. Fabien Vehlmann 10
07. Regis Loisel 9
08. Jean Van Hamme 8
09. Jean Giraud - Moebius 7
10. Marjane Satrapi 6
11. Joann Sfar 5
12. François Bourgeon 4
13. Hergé 3
14. Peyo 2
15. Greg 1

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Cromwell
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Croatia
4337 Posts

Member since 10/09/2011

Posted - 06/10/2024 : 10:49:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Cromwell a Private Message  Reply with Quote
18. Alejandro Jodorowsky - gospon pretjerivač čije dijagnoze svaki put čitam kao da mi je prvi put
16. René Goscinny - vječni šarm i hrana za dušu
14. Lewis Trondheim - slično kao i Goscinny, toplina oko srca.
12. Jean-Michel Charlier - ekstremno minuciozan pripovjedač, čudo od smisla za prevrate i zaplete
11. Manu Larcenet - autor nekoliko modernih klasika koji nikoga ne mogu ostaviti ravnodušnim
10. Hermann - ima i promašaja ali Jeremiah i Tornjevi su remek djela
9. Jean Van Hamme - čudo od lika. Njemu bi i da baci pisaću mašinu niz stepenice na kraju ispala kompletna smislena priča.
8. Greg - Isto kao i Van Hamme. Mogu i zamijeniti mjesta.
7. Cosey - možda nije toliko "zanimljiv" ali takav skrušeni/uzvišeni/blaženi/meditativni način pisanja ne posjeduje niti jedan drugi scenarist na listi
6. Chaboute - meni je Chaboute baš scenarist "iz naroda". Lako razmljive svakodnevne priče u kojima svatko može pronaći trenutke iz svoje stvarnosti, strahova i mašte.
5. Alain Ayroles - prvenstveno bogat i raskošan pisac sa malo promašaja. Sočna pašticada među autorima. Čekamo L'Ombres des Lumieres!
4. Patrick Cothias - Raskoš, detalji, atmosfera, sve to vrlo lako uvlači u svoj svijet.
3. François Bourgeon - slično kao i Cothias + sise i smisao za detalje a nije mu stran niti često bezobrazni humor.
2. Xavier Dorison - Ovaj ima dosta promašaja. ALI I POGODAKA!!
1. Jacques Tardi - buntovnik sa prekrasnim smislom za ružno. Mora na listu.

Prvih 10 zapravo mogu rangirati bilokako jer sve je stvar trenutka i raspoloženja ali eto... Žao mi je što nema mjesta za Huberta, Remarclea, Nurya, Sfara itd... :(

Bok, kako si.
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matori paraliticar
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2272 Posts

Member since 23/12/2022

Posted - 06/10/2024 : 10:58:48  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send matori paraliticar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ii Rabatea..
inace bravo Cromwellu tako bi trebali zapravo svi.. da napisemo ponesto zasto smo nesto izabrali za listu..

Ja se nadam da ce se vremenom izboriti umetnost stripa i da ce sve propusteno biti nadomesteno!
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anto
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Serbia
21156 Posts

Member since 29/06/2008

Posted - 06/10/2024 : 22:04:11  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send anto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jean-Michel Charlier 18p
Lewis Trondheim 16p
Jean Van Hamme 14p
Greg 12p
Alain Ayroles 11p
Fabien Nury 10p
Regis Loisel 9p
Fabien Vehlmann 8p
Hubert 7p
Hugo Pratt 6p
René Goscinny 5p
Zidrou 4p
Luc Brunschwig 3p
Wilfrid Lupano 2p
Cristophe Blain 1p (dao bih mu više kad ne bi serijale prekidao na pola priče uz nameru da ih nikad ne nastavi)

zašto nema Lea na listi?


srce mi krvari što barem još desetak njih nisam stavio na listu (Peeters,Larcenet,Cothias,Franquin,Bravo,Le Boucher,Jouvray,Baru,Cauvin,Tillieux...)



Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)!

Edited by - anto on 06/10/2024 22:19:15
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matori paraliticar
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Posted - 06/10/2024 : 22:07:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send matori paraliticar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Uh u zadnji cas.

izvini anto..sto nisam stavio Trondija na listu valjda nisi zlopamtilo
izostavih ga zato sto jos nisam citao maggy..ali zaboravih na super cowboyse i zekane

nemogu coveka pogledati u oci sada..



Ajmo jos neko?

Ja se nadam da ce se vremenom izboriti umetnost stripa i da ce sve propusteno biti nadomesteno!

Edited by - matori paraliticar on 06/10/2024 22:14:57
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anto
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Serbia
21156 Posts

Member since 29/06/2008

Posted - 06/10/2024 : 22:14:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send anto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Bushido

quote:
Originally posted by anto

očekivana i realna lista - po meni je jedino Morison upao na visoko mesto,prilično precenjen scenarista.


Anto, nije Morrison precijenjen, nego ti ne voliš tip stripova koje on piše.

Uostalom, ti nisi niti pročitao neke od najboljih naslova iz njegovog opusa.


može se i tako reći.
Pitanje - koji su to najbolji stripovi iz njegovog opusa?
I drugo putanje - ako je toliko objektivno dobar,zašto ti najbolji stripovi još nisu objavljeni na ovim prostorima?

Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)!
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don_draper
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4392 Posts

Member since 08/06/2018

Posted - 06/10/2024 : 22:46:15  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send don_draper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I zatvara se glasanje, anto taman uletio u 5 do 12.

U ovoj kategoriji su bila 32 glasača, 8 više negoli u prethodnoj. Ali je ovdje glasove dobilo 11 autora manje negoli u prethodnoj, tako da su bodovi ovdje u top 20 svakako viši u međusobnoj usporedbi.

No, da ne duljim, slijede rezultati (u zagradi broj glasova)

1. Rene Goscinny 359 bodova (27)
2. Alejandro Jodorowsky 276 bodova (26)
3. Jean van Hamme 270 bodova (23) - triler borba između njega i Alejandra je bila
4. Lewis Trondheim 237 boda (21)
5. Manu Larcenet 215 bodova (20)
6. Jean-Michel Charlier 212 bodova (17)
7. Greg 191 bod (19)
8. Herge 151 bod (19)
9. Hermann 130 bodova (15)
10. Alain Ayroles 128 bodova (14) - iskreno iznenađen
11. Andre Franquin 124 bodova (14)
12. Cristophe Chaboute 120 bodova (16)
13. Fabien Nury 109 bodova (12)
14. Moebius 88 bodova (11)
15. Regis Loisel 80 bodova (9)
16. Hugo Pratt 80 bodova (8)
17. Francois Bourgeon 77 bodova (8)
18. Jacques Tardi 62 bodova (10)
19. Patrick Cothias 61 bod (11)
20. Timothe Le Boucher 59 bodova (7) - jedna mlada snaga

Kao što sam i najavio, Pratt će vjerojatno pobrati bolji dio bodova u idućoj kategoriji i najvjerojatnije će se ovaj ovdje rezultat brisati i onaj koji je 21. upada.

I sell the fact that I can't be bought

Edited by - don_draper on 07/10/2024 20:59:11
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anto
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Serbia
21156 Posts

Member since 29/06/2008

Posted - 06/10/2024 : 22:57:17  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send anto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
za Erola nisam ni najmanje iznenađen,čovek je virtuoz;više sam začuđen da je Žodorovski na drugom mestu.

Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)!
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night
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Serbia
1629 Posts

Member since 07/07/2006

Posted - 06/10/2024 : 22:59:55  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send night a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zakasnihnza glasanje, valjda ću uspeti sledeći put.
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matori paraliticar
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2272 Posts

Member since 23/12/2022

Posted - 06/10/2024 : 23:19:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send matori paraliticar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Uh ko li je na dvadesetprvom mestu..

Ja se nadam da ce se vremenom izboriti umetnost stripa i da ce sve propusteno biti nadomesteno!
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dovlajoe
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Serbia
381 Posts

Member since 11/01/2019

Posted - 07/10/2024 : 00:07:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dovlajoe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Draperu, evo jedan poziv iz VAR sobe. I ja sam zbrajao pojedine bodove, kod Goscinnya,Jodorowskog,Van Hammea, Charliera, Grega i Hergea se razlikujemo taman za bodove koje je dodelio corto33. Proveri molim te da ga nisi ispustio u zbrajanju. Kod svih njih ti fali i po jedan glas.
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borg
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Serbia
2167 Posts

Member since 13/01/2020

Posted - 07/10/2024 : 00:27:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send borg a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Eeee, od sutra sledi najzanimljiviji deo ovog izbora.
Da vidimo čiji zagor sitnu vunu prede.
:)

Resistance is futile.

Edited by - borg on 07/10/2024 00:28:08
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don_draper
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4392 Posts

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Posted - 07/10/2024 : 06:43:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send don_draper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dovlajoe

Draperu, evo jedan poziv iz VAR sobe. I ja sam zbrajao pojedine bodove, kod Goscinnya,Jodorowskog,Van Hammea, Charliera, Grega i Hergea se razlikujemo taman za bodove koje je dodelio corto33. Proveri molim te da ga nisi ispustio u zbrajanju. Kod svih njih ti fali i po jedan glas.




Hvala na pozivu i provjerom ispada da sam previdio cortovo glasanje. Ispravljena je tablica tj. poredak i ima dosta promjena, najveća je da je upao Tardi, a ispao Zidrou.

Hvala što provjeravaš i treba tako biti (who watches watchmen heh). Isprike najiskrenije svima, poglavito cortu33.

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paro
stripovi.com suradnik



Croatia
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Member since 30/03/2005

Posted - 07/10/2024 : 07:22:08  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit paro's Homepage  Send paro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jodorowsky na 2. mjestu?
Eh, đe će vam duša?

There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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don_draper
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4392 Posts

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Posted - 07/10/2024 : 08:29:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send don_draper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Otvorene su nominacije za romanske, ujedno zadnja kategorija s nominacijama.

Priznaje se sve s Apeninskog, Pirenejskog poluotoka i Latinske Amerike na maticnim jezicima.

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don_draper
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Posted - 07/10/2024 : 08:30:31  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send don_draper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by matori paraliticar

Uh ko li je na dvadesetprvom mestu..



Zidrou ceka napeto da izbacim Pratta...

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Shuckey
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Croatia
731 Posts

Member since 18/12/2008

Posted - 07/10/2024 : 09:46:40  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Shuckey a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bio sam požurio s nominacijama, sori. Evo ih ovdje propisno:

Carlos Trillo
Enrique Sanchez Abuli
Hugo Pratt
Tiziano Sclavi
Attilio Micheluzzi
Carlos Sampayo
Guido Nolitta (Sergio Bonelli)
Giancarlo Berardi
Alfredo Castelli
Héctor Germán Oesterheld
Antonio Segura
Max Bunker (Luciano Secchi)

Hrvoje Bratanic AKA Šuki
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Mr. Bushido
stripovi.com suradnik



Croatia
12925 Posts

Member since 23/09/2005

Posted - 07/10/2024 : 10:52:09  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Leo Ortolani
Zerocalcare
Vittorio Giardino
Romano Scarpa
Mauro Boselli
Sergio Toppi
Benito Jacovitti
Carlos Giménez
Quino
Liniers

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