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vukozec
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Posted - 14/02/2021 : 14:21:16  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ma nema dobrih pjesama, ne gleda nitko stariji od 12 Doru zbog glazbe. Eurovizija je jednostavno društveni fenomen/običaj, koji osim grupnog obiteljskog druženja pred tv-om uključuje i sprdanje sa pjesmama i nastupima (no i ti koji se sprdaju svejedno sa guštom svaku gledaju). To je za mene potpuno drugi sport od glazbe koju inače slušam, uopće ih ne dovodim u istu rečenicu.
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Posted - 14/02/2021 : 14:25:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send BeaGea a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ups...sad kad ponovo čitam tvoju poruku vidim da nije ironija (zbunila me prva rečenica s 12-godišnjacima). Isprika.

Slažem se sa svime, osim s tim uvodom o 12-godišnjacima. Prati se to itekako ozbiljno i zbog glazbe, jer puno ljudi kupuje i sluša pop pjesmuljke, posao je to.
Kažite mi, jeste li se umorili
Jesu li vas prevarili
Je l'nas vrijeme pregazilo
Edited by - BeaGea on 14/02/2021 15:26:26
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vukozec
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Posted - 18/06/2021 : 13:37:42  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote


Opinions?
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Posted - 18/06/2021 : 14:27:09  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tonto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To sam otkrio 94-te...
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Posted - 23/06/2021 : 13:23:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Vlladimir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nirvana vs Parni Valjak
Ana Tomaskovic kraljica!
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Posted - 20/01/2022 : 21:31:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote




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Posted - 21/01/2022 : 09:11:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tonto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zanimljivo... naravno biram ove druge.
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Posted - 21/01/2022 : 09:52:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send fandango a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Pa kaj nije Come Together na sudu potvrdjeni plagijat neke Chuck Berryjeve pjesme pa je zato Lennon prema nagodbi morao snimiti cetiri pjesme iz kataloga doticnog menadzera pa je onda odlucio snimiti cijeli album obrada pjesama koje su na njega utjecale?
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Posted - 21/01/2022 : 10:07:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tonto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You can't catch me od berrya, evo bas slusam. Ako je plagijat onda ju je lennon dobrano usporio.
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Posted - 21/01/2022 : 10:46:24  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send fandango a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Je, ta je. Evo s Wikipedije, pise izvansudska nagodba:

In late 1969, "Come Together" was the subject of a copyright infringement claim brought against Lennon by Big Seven Music, who was the publisher of Chuck Berry's "You Can't Catch Me".[46] Morris Levy, the owner of Big Seven Music, contended that it sounded similar musically to Berry's original and shared some lyrics (Lennon sang: "Here come ol' flattop, he come groovin' up slowly", and Berry's had sung: "Here come a flattop, he was movin' up with me"). Before recording, Lennon and McCartney deliberately slowed the song down and added a heavy bass riff in order to make the song more original.[47] The case was settled out of court in 1973, with Levy's lawyers agreeing that Lennon would compensate by recording three Big Seven songs for his next album.
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vukozec
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Posted - 21/01/2022 : 12:52:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Come Together sam čuo bezbroj, a Cat Food puno puta, no nisam uočio sličnost sve dok sinoć nisam u toaletu birtije pokušavao raspoznati svira li to prva ili druga (začudo, svirala je druga - doduše upravo se odvijao glazbeni kviz pa je repertoar možda bio odvažniji nego inače). Znate kako se u takvim okolnostima čuje uglavnom samo bas - očito su Crimsoni citirali bas liniju iz Come Together.

Berryjeva pjesma nema taj bas, ali primjetna je sličnost u vokalnoj melodiji i izgovoru, premda su pjesme drugačijeg tempa. No daleko je to (u oba slučaja) od direktnog plagiranja, rekao bih čak da je za glazbeno stvaralaštvo poželjno takva citiranja lišiti takvih optužbi.

Inače, "New Jersey turnpike in the wee wee hours" iz ove Berryjeve pjesme je Springsteen citirao u (najmanje) 3 svoje: Open All Night, State Trooper i Living on the edge of the world ;)
Edited by - vukozec on 21/01/2022 12:56:38
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Posted - 21/01/2022 : 19:17:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send fandango a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vukozec

Come Together sam čuo bezbroj, a Cat Food puno puta, no nisam uočio sličnost sve dok sinoć nisam u toaletu birtije pokušavao raspoznati svira li to prva ili druga (začudo, svirala je druga - doduše upravo se odvijao glazbeni kviz pa je repertoar možda bio odvažniji nego inače). Znate kako se u takvim okolnostima čuje uglavnom samo bas - očito su Crimsoni citirali bas liniju iz Come Together.

Berryjeva pjesma nema taj bas, ali primjetna je sličnost u vokalnoj melodiji i izgovoru, premda su pjesme drugačijeg tempa. No daleko je to (u oba slučaja) od direktnog plagiranja, rekao bih čak da je za glazbeno stvaralaštvo poželjno takva citiranja lišiti takvih optužbi.

Inače, "New Jersey turnpike in the wee wee hours" iz ove Berryjeve pjesme je Springsteen citirao u (najmanje) 3 svoje: Open All Night, State Trooper i Living on the edge of the world ;)


Pa i da i ne. Gle, covjek tuzio Lennona, a ovaj se nagodio.

A i Kaze McCartney u intervjuu Washington Postu:

"John famously brought in "Come Together" sounding very much like a Chuck Berry song called "You Can't Catch Me." I said, "That's Chuck Berry." He went, "Yeah." I said, "No, no, no." And we swapped it out and slowed it down and made a genius record. I'm allowed to say that now."

A s druge strane, od jedne super pjesme napravili su drugu super pjesmu. To je onda valjda remake
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vukozec
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Posted - 17/02/2022 : 17:16:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ovo nismo dosad komentirali?
Meni vrlo intrigantan primjer.





Đavoli = 1991.
Primal Scream = 1994.(!)
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Posted - 17/02/2022 : 17:39:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tonto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Đavoli = 1991.
Primal Scream = 1994.(!)

Drago Mlinarec = 1971
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vukozec
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Posted - 17/02/2022 : 17:49:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Imaju Stonesi 20 pjesama koje su sličnije Đavolima/Screamu od ove Mlinarecove, ali nije stvar samo u riffu - ritam, refren, sve je vrlo vrlo slično, bar meni. Imaju gotovo identičan break, usporedi Rock galama oko 4:00 nadalje sa Rocks oko 2:30 nadalje.
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Posted - 17/02/2022 : 18:07:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tonto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ma stoji... cujem ja isto sto i ti. Meni je samo fora kako je mlinarecov rif pljunuti nenin refren.
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vukozec
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Posted - 20/02/2022 : 22:12:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lani smo imali Billie, ove godine Taylor.

Što kažete?
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Originally posted by ken2

[quote]Originally posted by Quebrasco

Prljavo kazalište - Skočit ću = AC/DC - You shook me all night long
Prljavo kazalište - Brane srušit ću sve = Chocolate Starfish - Mountain
Prljavo kazalište - Bye bye = Eagle Eye Cherry - Save tonight
Prljavo kazalište - Ma kog me boga za tebe pitaju = Alice Cooper - Every woman has a name
Prljavo kazalište - Prisluškuju nas susjedi = The Rolling Stones - Neighbours
Prljavo kazalište - Ptico malena = U2 - Love is blindness
Prljavo kazalište - Zaustavite zemlju = Peter Wolf - Come as you are
Prljavo kazalište - Heroj ulice = Bruce Springsteen - Point blank + The river
Prljavo kazalište - Ne zovi, mama, doktora = Bachman Turner Overdrive - You ain't seen nothing yet
Prljavo kazalište - Sve je lako kad si mlad = The Clash - Should I stay or should I go
Prljavo kazalište - Radio Dubrava = The Clash - London calling
Prljavo kazalište - Iza mojih prozora = Velvet Underground - Sweet Jane
Prljavo kazalište - S vremena na vrijeme = A-Ha - Angel
Prljavo kazalište - Pisma ljubavna = Prince - I could never take the place of your man
Prljavo kazalište - Previše suza u mom pivu = The Specials - It's you + Millie Small - My boy lollipop
Prljavo kazalište - Zlatne godine = Slade - Cum on feel the noize
Prljavo kazalište - Moja je djevojka otišla u armiju = Iggy Pop - Pumping for jill
Prljavo kazalište - Šteta što je kurva = Lenny Kravitz - Again

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vukozec
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Posted - 16/05/2023 : 21:17:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Posted - 16/05/2023 : 22:07:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tonto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Posted - 17/05/2023 : 13:11:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tonto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
...a ovo?
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vukozec
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Posted - 17/05/2023 : 15:24:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Na Bitter Sweet Symphony su Jagger i Richards uredno potpisani otpočetka.

A evo od koga su oni to popalili :)
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Posebno solaža...
Men At Work na 1:58 https://youtu.be/RY7S6EgSlCI?t=118
Parni Valjak na 1:53 https://youtu.be/3JjdEBBOvUE?t=113
Takav je skot bio Alan
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Posted - 18/05/2023 : 22:59:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tonto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vukozec

Na Bitter Sweet Symphony su Jagger i Richards uredno potpisani otpočetka.
Nisam znao. Mea culpa.
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