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Aco
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zveles
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Croatia
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Mord
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Croatia
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Posted - 30/05/2004 : 23:46:54
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quote: Originally posted by VJ
Nego tek da spomenem (jer Berny me ne slusa pa moram s prljavim vesom u javnost )... ni to izdanje nece opet biti ful kak bi trebalo bit jer Brixyjev tekst koliko god je dobar je takodjer i cenzuriran u nekim djelovima. :(
Po onom textu s tvog sajta jedno je br.6 Trazi se Alex Barry cenzuriran u prvom izdanju. Ili ima toga jos? |
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dd fan
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Serbia
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Posted - 31/05/2004 : 00:10:44
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quote: Originally posted by Aco
VJ,hvala na informacji u vezi prijevoda.A baš sam mislio krenuti sa prodajom starih Fordova(hehe..)
Bond.James Bond.
Mislim da je Vedran hteo reci kako je Brixyjev prevod cenzurisan odmah na samom pocetku, dakle i u prvom izdanju.
I've always been a nobody. When i was a child, my mother used to confuse me with my brother, even though i'm an only child. To this day she still thinks i'm my brother. |
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Renky
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Croatia
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Posted - 31/05/2004 : 00:52:33
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quote: Originally posted by dd fan
quote: Originally posted by Aco
VJ,hvala na informacji u vezi prijevoda.A baš sam mislio krenuti sa prodajom starih Fordova(hehe..)
Bond.James Bond.
Mislim da je Vedran hteo reci kako je Brixyjev prevod cenzurisan odmah na samom pocetku, dakle i u prvom izdanju.
I've always been a nobody. When i was a child, my mother used to confuse me with my brother, even though i'm an only child. To this day she still thinks i'm my brother.
Alkar DD FAN u sridu!!!!  
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prozirna senka
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USA
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Posted - 31/05/2004 : 00:53:41
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Pa valjda nece biti puki Vjesnikov reprint. Ako bude nema nista od moje kupovine af-a.
Svojevremno sam jurio za jednom devojkom skoro dve godine samo da bi na kraju saznao da volimo iste stvari. Oboje smo, naime, ludo zaljubljeni u zene. (Groucho Marx) |
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Tomek
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Croatia
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zveles
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Croatia
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Posted - 31/05/2004 : 01:50:48
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gospodin brixy je odavno umro i cisto sumnjam da negdje postoji originalni zapis prijevoda bez vjesnikove (samo)cenzure.
THERE, THERE |
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dd fan
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Serbia
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Posted - 31/05/2004 : 01:51:11
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quote: Originally posted by Renky
quote: Originally posted by dd fan
quote: Originally posted by Aco
VJ,hvala na informacji u vezi prijevoda.A baš sam mislio krenuti sa prodajom starih Fordova(hehe..)
Bond.James Bond.
Mislim da je Vedran hteo reci kako je Brixyjev prevod cenzurisan odmah na samom pocetku, dakle i u prvom izdanju.
I've always been a nobody. When i was a child, my mother used to confuse me with my brother, even though i'm an only child. To this day she still thinks i'm my brother.
Alkar DD FAN u sridu!!!!  
www.sd-gradac.hr ( nogomet ) www.gradac.hr
A u cetvrtak? ;-))))
I've always been a nobody. When i was a child, my mother used to confuse me with my brother, even though i'm an only child. To this day she still thinks i'm my brother. |
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---dp---
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Posted - 31/05/2004 : 02:32:49
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To bi trebalo pitati njegovu deci ili ko ga je vec nasledio, iako i ja sumnjam da postoje negde kopije originalnih prevoda... |
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VJ
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Posted - 31/05/2004 : 08:33:36
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quote: Mislim da je Vedran hteo reci kako je Brixyjev prevod cenzurisan odmah na samom pocetku, dakle i u prvom izdanju.
Da, medjutim prva izdanja su jos manje cenzurirana u usporedbi sa kasnijim.
Sto se cenzura tice ima toga puno, samo meni se neda bas usporedjivati. Ono sto je do sad pronadjeno je ovdje...
http://www.stripovi.com/AlanFord/af_cenzura.html
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Aco
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Slovenia
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Posted - 31/05/2004 : 14:00:34
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OK,dakle prijevod ce biti isti kao u Vjesnikovom izdanju(osim cenzure koja mi i nije baš toliko bitna)?
Bond.James Bond. |
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Tomek
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prozirna senka
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USA
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Posted - 01/06/2004 : 06:29:57
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Smeta kako ne. Idi na onaj link gore pa ces videti sta su sve kasapili, da ni ne pominjem da Formule nisu nikad ni objavljene osim u trobroju, a i to pred raspad one drzave.
Svojevremno sam jurio za jednom devojkom skoro dve godine samo da bi na kraju saznao da volimo iste stvari. Oboje smo, naime, ludo zaljubljeni u zene. (Groucho Marx) |
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chemako
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Posted - 01/06/2004 : 09:29:46
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Cenzure je bilo i kod svih izdavaca u SFRJ uglavnom.Ali bio je takav sistem i gotovo.To je po meni bila mala cijena za cijeli onaj opus izdavaštva koji smo imali u bivšoj državi. Ovo nije pravi topic za to ali niko ne govori o cenzuri koja je bila u Comic stripu i to u serijalu Largo Winch.Niko me ne može uvjeriti da je taj serijal zaustavljen radi toga što nije bio popularan vec samo radi toga što je glavni junak bio iz "Jugoslavije" i što je u kasnijim epizodima spominjan i Tito.A bio je ipak drugi sistem nego prije. Samo toliko,ovo nije topic za to. |
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Bernard
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Dalen
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Posted - 02/06/2004 : 19:08:16
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quote: Originally posted by chemako
Cenzure je bilo i kod svih izdavaca u SFRJ uglavnom.Ali bio je takav sistem i gotovo.To je po meni bila mala cijena za cijeli onaj opus izdavaštva koji smo imali u bivšoj državi. Ovo nije pravi topic za to ali niko ne govori o cenzuri koja je bila u Comic stripu i to u serijalu Largo Winch.Niko me ne može uvjeriti da je taj serijal zaustavljen radi toga što nije bio popularan vec samo radi toga što je glavni junak bio iz "Jugoslavije" i što je u kasnijim epizodima spominjan i Tito.A bio je ipak drugi sistem nego prije. Samo toliko,ovo nije topic za to.
Imaš pravo. Nije topic za to, ali Nenad Brixy je napravio strašan prijevod, pa decke zanima da li je on slucajno cenzuriran ili nije. Ako bude onako kako je bilo u Vjesnikom AF, pa bilo to cenzurirano ili ne, bit ce super. |
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Dalen
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Posted - 02/06/2004 : 19:17:25
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Kad smo vec kod Alan Forda, prijevoda, cenzure i sl. Da je bilo cenzure u bivšoj državi to se zna, ali Nenad Brixy je napravio tako dobar prijevod da ako je i bilo cenzure, nije se primjetila. Mome dobrom prijatelju Talijanski je materinji jezik, govori, cita, i piše isto kao i Hrvatski i veliki je ljubitelj stripova. Sjecam se da mi jednom rekao da AF u originalu nije ni približno dobar kao Brixyjev. Znaci ako je Bernard odlucio da štampa AF sa Brixyjevim prijevodom, kapa dolje. Sa zadovoljstvom cu to kupovati, iako imam prvih 75 brojeva.
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prozirna senka
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USA
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Posted - 02/06/2004 : 19:48:12
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Ma Brixyjev prevod sam po sebi je sjajan. Problem je u tome js to su izbacivane i po cele strane stripa, a o detaljima da i ne govoimo, podignuta ruka uz uzvik Heil, je spustena uz telo u Ne glasajte za Notaxa, npr. Majmuni iz prethodnog rezima ocigledno nisu razumeli sta je to crni humor. Zato sam kazao da ne bih voleo da ovo izdanje bude puki reprint Vjesnika. Dakle originalan crtez + originalan Brixyjev prevod = uspeh.
Svojevremno sam jurio za jednom devojkom skoro dve godine samo da bi na kraju saznao da volimo iste stvari. Oboje smo, naime, ludo zaljubljeni u zene. (Groucho Marx) |
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Markos
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Croatia
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Posted - 02/06/2004 : 21:25:22
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Nece biti reprint Vjesnika, jer se radi sken sa originalnih epizoda iz Italije. Dakle, mozes biti miran! Jedino sto Brixy-ev prijevod ima u sebi (auto)cenzuru... ali dobro, na to se vise ne moze utjecati...
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Renky
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Croatia
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Posted - 02/06/2004 : 23:19:53
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quote: Originally posted by chemako
Cenzure je bilo i kod svih izdavaca u SFRJ uglavnom.Ali bio je takav sistem i gotovo.To je po meni bila mala cijena za cijeli onaj opus izdavaštva koji smo imali u bivšoj državi. Ovo nije pravi topic za to ali niko ne govori o cenzuri koja je bila u Comic stripu i to u serijalu Largo Winch.Niko me ne može uvjeriti da je taj serijal zaustavljen radi toga što nije bio popularan vec samo radi toga što je glavni junak bio iz "Jugoslavije" i što je u kasnijim epizodima spominjan i Tito.A bio je ipak drugi sistem nego prije. Samo toliko,ovo nije topic za to.
A vidiš, meni je Boris T. ( u ono vrijeme urednik CS ) reka da su razlozi bili druge naravi. Konkretno san ga pita baš o spomenutoj cinjenici ali on tvrdi da to nije bija razlog. Na kraju, pa zar nije lakše kod prevoda bilo napisati da je Largo npr. Eskim a da je onaj otok njegovom ocu poklonila Ankica T. i gotovo...Puno jednostavnije nego ukidanje serijala. BTW znam kakve su uvjete postavljali Francuzi kod prodaje za objavljivanje u CS u pogledu broja nastavaka pojedinih epizoda. Pa i to je šljakalo ali jednog dana Boris zove u Francusku i pita "a di su novi nastavci" a oni odgovaraju " a di je lova?"...I tako, End of Story 
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zmcomics
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Posted - 03/06/2004 : 08:13:05
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quote: Originally posted by ---dp---
Sta se podrazumeva pod (auto)cenzurom?
To znaci da se mnogo zajebavas ali pazis da ne preteras da nebi dobio po nosu
Znaci da sam pazis sta pises kako nebi pao pod cenzorske makazice |
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