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prozirna senka
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Posted - 03/06/2004 : 13:31:29
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Sad kao jesmo:) Pricamo o Brixijevoj autocenzuri i vremenu, u vreme demokratske vlade Broza Prvog Copavog:)))
Svojevremno sam jurio za jednom devojkom skoro dve godine samo da bi na kraju saznao da volimo iste stvari. Oboje smo, naime, ludo zaljubljeni u zene. (Groucho Marx) |
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nenno
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chemako
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chemako
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Posted - 03/06/2004 : 14:55:44
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Renky ne vjerujem da je razlog bila lova.Kako su onda nastavili izlaziti drugi stripovi u Comicu.Nije valjda da se za neke placala prava,a za neke ne.A to što su mogli stavit da je Largo Eskim,a da je otok poklonila A.Tudman..... mogli su ali mislim da Comic i ovako nije daleko dogurao,a tad bi još krace.
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Djole
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Serbia
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Posted - 03/06/2004 : 14:57:39
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Mnogo je misterioznije zašto je Marketprint prestao sa Largom, u sred price... (a OPA ima jedan od najuzbudljivijih set-upova koje sam video...)
Play it again, Yortlebluzzgubbly. |
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dd fan
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Serbia
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Posted - 03/06/2004 : 15:28:31
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Mislim da je Zlatko tvrdio kako se Largo lose prodavao. Kao i Soda.
I've always been a nobody. When i was a child, my mother used to confuse me with my brother, even though i'm an only child. To this day she still thinks i'm my brother. |
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Djole
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nenno
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zmcomics
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Posted - 03/06/2004 : 16:37:53
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quote: Originally posted by dd fan
Mislim da je Zlatko tvrdio kako se Largo lose prodavao. Kao i Soda.
Ne, nije zbog prodaje. Soda je bio docekan na ostricu od poprilicnog broja citalaca, ali bi i on nekako isao dok se citaoci ne naviknu. Samo da se Dupuis nije predomislio oko ranije obecane cene kopirajta. Posto su postali skleroticni videvsi da se uzima Largo, Mali Spiru, Soda,... onda se Marketprintu pokazalo neizvodljivim da se kopirajti placaju kao osamdesetim, a da se zivi u devedesetim... To je jedini razlog. Preskupi kopirajti za danasnje tiraze i njihova nespremnost da se prilagode situaciji. Drugi su mogli, oni ne. Od tih drugih se stripovi uzimaju.
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Renky
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Posted - 03/06/2004 : 22:04:23
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quote: Originally posted by chemako
Renky ne vjerujem da je razlog bila lova.Kako su onda nastavili izlaziti drugi stripovi u Comicu.Nije valjda da se za neke placala prava,a za neke ne.A to što su mogli stavit da je Largo Eskim,a da je otok poklonila A.Tudman..... mogli su ali mislim da Comic i ovako nije daleko dogurao,a tad bi još krace.
Procitaj malo niže objašnjenje iz kuta Marketprinta ( ZMc ), na to sam mislija. Jednostavno to je bija Top Ten strip u FR i prava su bila puno veca nego za neke druge serijale. BTW vecina ostalih serijala bili su reciklaža pa i zbog toga razlika u cijenama. Prava su se placala za sve ali ne po istim cijenama. Nešto je moralo otpasti. Nakon nekog vrimena došlo je do "Kutleraja" i cim nisu placena prava pristali su stizati filmovi ( ili cd-ovi )...
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dd fan
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Posted - 03/06/2004 : 22:13:02
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quote: Originally posted by zmcomics
quote: Originally posted by dd fan
Mislim da je Zlatko tvrdio kako se Largo lose prodavao. Kao i Soda.
Ne, nije zbog prodaje. Soda je bio docekan na ostricu od poprilicnog broja citalaca, ali bi i on nekako isao dok se citaoci ne naviknu. Samo da se Dupuis nije predomislio oko ranije obecane cene kopirajta. Posto su postali skleroticni videvsi da se uzima Largo, Mali Spiru, Soda,... onda se Marketprintu pokazalo neizvodljivim da se kopirajti placaju kao osamdesetim, a da se zivi u devedesetim... To je jedini razlog. Preskupi kopirajti za danasnje tiraze i njihova nespremnost da se prilagode situaciji. Drugi su mogli, oni ne. Od tih drugih se stripovi uzimaju.
Znaci jel su vam oni dali po jednoj ceni a kasnije naglo poskupeli ili ste vi pristali na visu cenu nadajuci se da ce kasnije pojeftiniti?
I've always been a nobody. When i was a child, my mother used to confuse me with my brother, even though i'm an only child. To this day she still thinks i'm my brother. |
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chemako
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Posted - 04/06/2004 : 17:45:24
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Meni je Largo stvarno bio odlican.To je bilo nakon dugo vremena da sam na maternjem jeziku procitao strip koji dotad nisam citao i da mi se svidio kao vecina stripova te škole.I onda nema više....Ja ipak i dalje mislim da je bila cenzura i to kako se kaže autocenzura samog izdavaca,a izašli smo iz sistema kako kaže Prozirna senka "Broza prvog copavog".Jer mali Spirou je uredno išao dalje kao novi strip,a ovo je stalo. |
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zmcomics
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Posted - 04/06/2004 : 18:57:52
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quote: Originally posted by dd fan
Znaci jel su vam oni dali po jednoj ceni a kasnije naglo poskupeli ili ste vi pristali na visu cenu nadajuci se da ce kasnije pojeftiniti?
Oni su pristali na nasu cenu a posle kada je stiglo vreme placanja poslali fakture sa neprihvatljivom cenom. Nisu trazili vecu cenu za pojedine naslove vec za sve. Kada uzimas vise naslova od jednog izdavaca onda se izboris za istu cenu. Jedino, recimo, kod Titeuf-a (Glenat) nece da popusta jer imaju ceo tim ljudi koji rade na prodaji kopirajta i... i... i grozni su i nepopustljivi i turbo skupi
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Renky
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Croatia
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Posted - 04/06/2004 : 21:40:47
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quote: Originally posted by chemako
Meni je Largo stvarno bio odlican.To je bilo nakon dugo vremena da sam na maternjem jeziku procitao strip koji dotad nisam citao i da mi se svidio kao vecina stripova te škole.I onda nema više....Ja ipak i dalje mislim da je bila cenzura i to kako se kaže autocenzura samog izdavaca,a izašli smo iz sistema kako kaže Prozirna senka "Broza prvog copavog".Jer mali Spirou je uredno išao dalje kao novi strip,a ovo je stalo.
Baš si uporan , pa dobro...Prije otkupljivanja prava Boris je ima uvid u sadržaj. Te albume u originalnom izdanja, kao i gomilu novih materijala vidija san kod njega na policama. Znalo se kakav je sadržaj pa se isto krenulo ( s punim pravom ) ali je problem nasta kod otkupa novih epizoda. Lova, lova, nikad je dovoljno pa je nešto moralo otpasti. Mali Spirou je rastura u to vrime pa je to možda razlog dužeg objavljivanja ali uskoro je i to crklo...No i nakon toga išlo se sa par novih stripova, no u onoj mjeri koliko su to dozvoljavale financije. O pravim razlozima se samo može nagadjati ali virujem Borisu da je ponestalo love. I sad mi sline cure kad promislim na one stvari koje su Francuzi nudili putem promotivnih albuma...ali "money makes world go round"  
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chemako
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Posted - 05/06/2004 : 08:59:29
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Ma pazi ja samo iznosim svoje mišljenje,a što ne znaci da sam u pravu.Nekao mi je sve onda bilo cudno zašto je to stalo.A kad sam procitao drugu epizodu Stripoteci onda sam rekao "e to je to".Ne vjerujem da je problem bio u Borisu ali možda neko iznad njega..... Ali dobro ustvari nije dobro jer najgore od svega je to što je i Stripoteka odustala od toga pa necemo imati priliku pratiti dalje taj serijal. |
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Renky
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Posted - 05/06/2004 : 11:19:14
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quote: Originally posted by chemako
Ma pazi ja samo iznosim svoje mišljenje,a što ne znaci da sam u pravu.Nekao mi je sve onda bilo cudno zašto je to stalo.A kad sam procitao drugu epizodu Stripoteci onda sam rekao "e to je to".Ne vjerujem da je problem bio u Borisu ali možda neko iznad njega..... Ali dobro ustvari nije dobro jer najgore od svega je to što je i Stripoteka odustala od toga pa necemo imati priliku pratiti dalje taj serijal.
Pa eto, i Stripoteka je ( ako je ) odustala. Razlog je lova. Oni "iznad" Borisa nisu procitali nikad niti jedan strip a kamoli da procitaju francuski original. Jednostavno "Bad Luck" 
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ken2
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Renky
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 06/06/2004 : 22:16:25
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Evo danas sam dobio oba broja AF i odusevljen sam!
Zasto se broj dva najavljuje za mjesec dana a u MC je vec dostupan?
Nije Ibro jarane naš fukara, Ibro ti je de facto umjetnik. Shvacas? |
Edited by - SejoSexon on 06/06/2004 22:37:11 |
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byoman
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 06/06/2004 : 22:23:07
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quote: Originally posted by byoman
Jesi siguran da je dostupan? Mozda su to stavili kao reklamicu pa pise "uskoro!" ili sl...?
Procitaj sta sam napisao. Ja imam oba broja kod mene.
Nije Ibro jarane naš fukara, Ibro ti je de facto umjetnik. Shvacas? |
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Posted - 06/06/2004 : 23:03:01
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Stvarno šta je s tim br.2, ja sam danas u trafici našao samo br.1 na kojem piše da br.2 izlazi za mjesec dana  
In my dream I was drowning my sorrows, but my sorrows they learned to swim... |
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Markos
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Posted - 06/06/2004 : 23:50:07
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Stampana su prva dva broja u isto vrijeme, a naravno da ce samo jedan biti dostupan na kioscima u isto vrijeme, naravno.
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