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prozirna senka
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Posted - 12/05/2006 : 11:40:35
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> u stripu se spominje terorist koji se potpisiva ka "bombas". kako to pise u originalu?
Bomber.
Cuvajte, cedo moje milo, jezik kao zemlju. Rec se može izgubiti kao grad, kao zemlja, kao duša. Ne uzimajte tudu rec u svoja usta. Uzmeš li tudu rec, znaj da je nisi osvojio, nego si sebe potudio. |
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kiky
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Posted - 12/05/2006 : 13:05:55
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Znaci, kao što rekoh, zemlja se ipak trese... i to sa usklicnikom! Sam naslov vec služi kao upozorenje, vrlo je tocno preveden, u skladu sa cijelom pricom (te da ju je kts prvo procitala, tada ne bi tu trabunjala o "Potresu" kao poželjnijem prijevodu).
Time ovaj banalni kts-in prijevod "Potres" sasvim ispada iz igre.
Kts nema pojma. Ali kts je žensko, te po defaultu nema pojma.
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kts
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Posted - 12/05/2006 : 13:41:49
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quote: Originally posted by kiky
Znaci, kao što rekoh, zemlja se ipak trese... i to sa usklicnikom! Sam naslov vec služi kao upozorenje, vrlo je tocno preveden, u skladu sa cijelom pricom (te da ju je kts prvo procitala, tada ne bi tu trabunjala o "Potresu" kao poželjnijem prijevodu).
Time ovaj banalni kts-in prijevod "Potres" sasvim ispada iz igre.
Kts nema pojma. Ali kts je žensko, te po defaultu nema pojma.
in the evidence of its brilliance
Zasto se to uvijek meni desava? Daj Kiky nadji si nekog drugog za shovinisticke igre. I molim te izjasni se u Svastari na najnovijoj anketi.
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Dalen
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Posted - 12/05/2006 : 15:13:26
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quote: Originally posted by Goran M.
quote: Originally posted by kts
...koji ima jasne direktive. U najmanju ruku po vec godinama tradicionalnoj gluposti u prijevodu tih izdanja.
Direktive? Imam direktive?
Da, postoje neke tradicionalne gluposti u prijevodima MM-a. Trudimo ih se iskorijeniti. Tu ipak treba razlikovati prevodilacke gluposti od okvira originala. Što se tice naslova, "Potres" bi bio krajnje nemaštovito ubijanje stila originala.
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Dalen
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Posted - 12/05/2006 : 15:23:49
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Ako cemo baš o prijevodima, pitao sam svog jako dobrog frenda, takoder ljubitelja stripova (koji je uzgred budi receno ovlašteni sudski prevoditelj za Talijanski, uostalom majka mu je Talijanka), za mišljenje. "Zemlja se trese!" je tocan prijevod koji najviše odgovara stripu! Dobro, nema usklicnika, ali to, kao što smo i vidjeli, nije greška prevoditelja.
Za kts: Oprosti, ali, Katharina-Clara, Šuma Striborova. Zar se sramiš vlastitog imena i prezimena i odkud si  |
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mifugo
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Posted - 12/05/2006 : 15:47:38
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quote: gorane, sugestija i pitanje: 1) kopirnica, a ne kopirAOnica
nikad cuo da neko kaze kopirnica... kopiraonica je standardno hrvatski, a tako se i govori... |
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Goran M.
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Posted - 12/05/2006 : 16:32:35
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quote: Originally posted by torca
gorane, sugestija i pitanje: 1) kopirnica, a ne kopirAOnica 2) u stripu se spominje terorist koji se potpisiva ka "bombas". kako to pise u originalu? nije bas iz pocetka 90-ih, al palo mi je na pamet da se radi o tedu kaczynskom poznatijem pod nadimkom "unabomber"
1) Ne, više volim drugi oblik. 2) Da je potpis bio Unabomber, tako bi i ostao. Koliko se sjecam, bilo je više poznatijih, a to što scenarij spominje samo devedesete ne mora znaciti da se ne misli na Teda. Sad kad me PP podsjetio na original (ja ih, naime, nemam), možda bi bilo malo bolje da sam ostavio to Bomber, ali, IIRC, kad sam usput gledao, nisam našao ništa pametno.
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kts
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Posted - 12/05/2006 : 16:52:51
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quote: Originally posted by Dalen
Ako cemo baš o prijevodima, pitao sam svog jako dobrog frenda, takoder ljubitelja stripova (koji je uzgred budi receno ovlašteni sudski prevoditelj za Talijanski, uostalom majka mu je Talijanka), za mišljenje. "Zemlja se trese!" je tocan prijevod koji najviše odgovara stripu! Dobro, nema usklicnika, ali to, kao što smo i vidjeli, nije greška prevoditelja.
Za kts: Oprosti, ali, Katharina-Clara, Šuma Striborova. Zar se sramiš vlastitog imena i prezimena i odkud si 

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Dalen
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Posted - 12/05/2006 : 16:59:42
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Meni uopce nije bitno jesi li Hrvatica, Srpkinja, Slovenka, Muslimanka, Makedonka ili nešto stoto... Htio sam ti samo reci da je to odraz ljudske kulture. Ako s nekim razgovoraš, red je (makar je uviek bio) da covjek zna s kim prica. |
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kts
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Posted - 12/05/2006 : 17:03:04
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Dalen, spomenuo si ime i porijeklo i dobio odgovor. I sad necemo vise nistiti ovaj lijepi topic gdje se eto javio i G. Marinic, sto mi je stvarno drago, jer nisam zadovoljna starim prevodiocima Bonellijevih izdanja.
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mifugo
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Posted - 12/05/2006 : 17:45:35
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quote: Originally posted by Dalen
Meni uopce nije bitno jesi li Hrvatica, Srpkinja, Slovenka, Muslimanka, Makedonka ili nešto stoto... Htio sam ti samo reci da je to odraz ljudske kulture. Ako s nekim razgovoraš, red je (makar je uviek bio) da covjek zna s kim prica.
Na internetu? Na forumima? Otkad to?
quote: Dalen, spomenuo si ime i porijeklo i dobio odgovor. I sad necemo vise nistiti ovaj lijepi topic gdje se eto javio i G. Marinic, sto mi je stvarno drago, jer nisam zadovoljna starim prevodiocima Bonellijevih izdanja.
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I like girlz
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Posted - 12/05/2006 : 17:57:24
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ljudi, šta ste svi uzeli kts, kao jednu od rijetkih djevojaka na forumu, "na zub". pustite curu, ima pravo na mišljenje, kao uostalom i svi mi ovdje. |
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Dalen
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Posted - 12/05/2006 : 19:47:20
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quote: Originally posted by mifugo
[quote]Originally posted by Dalen
Na internetu? Na forumima? Otkad to?
Vidim da ni ti ne daješ nikakve podatke, pa nije ni cudo da braniš njen odabir skrivanja identiteta. Mogao bi o tome napisati pedesetak recenica, ali nisam sklon takvim perverzijama. Ispravite me ako griješim, ali clanovi ovog Foruma (veliki dio) se pozna i osobno, pa zbog toga me takve stvari i cude, a hoceš li ti staviti svoje podatke je tvoja stvar. |
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Dalen
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Posted - 12/05/2006 : 19:56:49
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quote: Originally posted by kts
Dalen, spomenuo si ime i porijeklo i dobio odgovor. I sad necemo vise nistiti ovaj lijepi topic gdje se eto javio i G. Marinic, sto mi je stvarno drago, jer nisam zadovoljna starim prevodiocima Bonellijevih izdanja.
Ako nisi zadovoljna prijevodom uvijek ti ostaje original izdanje, ako znaš talijanski . |
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kts
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Posted - 12/05/2006 : 22:17:49
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Nisam zadovoljna, ima neki pridjev selendre iza sedam gora i petnaest mora. A daju se za to novci, eto, citaju i djeca.
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mifugo
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Posted - 13/05/2006 : 09:35:19
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quote: Originally posted by Dalen
quote: Originally posted by mifugo Na internetu? Na forumima? Otkad to?
Vidim da ni ti ne daješ nikakve podatke,
Oprosti, ali nisan nigdi vidija pri logiranju da pise da se triba ostavit pravo ime, prezime, adresa i broj osobne... Osim toga, ne znan ni ja tvoje ime (niti me pretjerano interesira)...
quote: pa nije ni cudo da braniš njen odabir skrivanja identiteta. Mogao bi o tome napisati pedesetak recenica, ali nisam sklon takvim perverzijama. Ispravite me ako griješim, ali clanovi ovog Foruma (veliki dio) se pozna i osobno, pa zbog toga me takve stvari i cude, a hoceš li ti staviti svoje podatke je tvoja stvar.
Ne znan na kliko si ti foruma dosad bija, ali uobicajeno je da se ljudi medjusobno ne poznaju i da si ne znaju imena. Jasno, na mnogim forumima se ljudi poznaju, iz raznih razloga, ali to tesko da je pravilo. Ja ne poznam nikoga s ovog foruma osobno (osim jednog decka slucajno otprije), niti vecini znam ime, pa ne vidin zasto bi se sad svi tu morali javno identificirati. Bude li potribe, nema problema, ali ne vidin kako se iko usudi prozivati nekoga da se skriva na internetskom forumu (sic!)... to je apsurd... |
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Dalen
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Posted - 13/05/2006 : 12:05:41
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quote: Originally posted by mifugo
quote: Originally posted by Dalen
[quote]Originally posted by mifugo
Ne znan na kliko si ti foruma dosad bija, ali uobicajeno je da se ljudi medjusobno ne poznaju i da si ne znaju imena. Jasno, na mnogim forumima se ljudi poznaju, iz raznih razloga, ali to tesko da je pravilo. Ja ne poznam nikoga s ovog foruma osobno (osim jednog decka slucajno otprije), niti vecini znam ime, pa ne vidin zasto bi se sad svi tu morali javno identificirati. Bude li potribe, nema problema, ali ne vidin kako se iko usudi prozivati nekoga da se skriva na internetskom forumu (sic!)... to je apsurd...
Cuj, pošto imam P.C. od 1994. ne mogu ti odgovoriti na koliko sam foruma bio do sada, a to i nije uopce važno. Ja nisam pricao o drugim forumima nego o ovom forumu. Na ovom forumu se jako puno ljudi znaju osobno, pa mi je zbog toga to bilo malo cudno. Ti ne poznaš nikoga i O.K. I da zakljucimo ovu nepotrebnu raspravu, tvoja je slobodna volja hoceš ili neceš staviti osobne podatke. Ja samo volim znati s kim pricam, ali nitko nikoga nece prozivati zbog toga. I samo još nešto, za razliku od "kts" ti si stavio svoj mail za kontakt, dok ona nije stavila niti to. Osim toga pogledaj malo njen Topic u Svaštari pa ce ti biti jasno zašto sam tako reagirao. |
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Dalen
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Posted - 13/05/2006 : 14:16:23
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quote: Originally posted by I like girlz
ljudi, šta ste svi uzeli kts, kao jednu od rijetkih djevojaka na forumu, "na zub". pustite curu, ima pravo na mišljenje, kao uostalom i svi mi ovdje.
A da? Pogledaj malo Topic "Molim cjenjeno mišljenje" u svaštari. |
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sonor
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Posted - 13/05/2006 : 14:35:15
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quote: Originally posted by Dalen
quote: Originally posted by I like girlz
ljudi, šta ste svi uzeli kts, kao jednu od rijetkih djevojaka na forumu, "na zub". pustite curu, ima pravo na mišljenje, kao uostalom i svi mi ovdje.
A da? Pogledaj malo Topic "Molim cjenjeno mišljenje" u svaštari.
kts je betty page
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Dalen
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Posted - 13/05/2006 : 14:36:38
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quote: Originally posted by sonor
quote: Originally posted by Dalen
quote: Originally posted by I like girlz
ljudi, šta ste svi uzeli kts, kao jednu od rijetkih djevojaka na forumu, "na zub". pustite curu, ima pravo na mišljenje, kao uostalom i svi mi ovdje.
A da? Pogledaj malo Topic "Molim cjenjeno mišljenje" u svaštari.
kts je betty page
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I like girlz
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Posted - 13/05/2006 : 15:33:43
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quote: Originally posted by Dalen
quote: Originally posted by I like girlz
ljudi, šta ste svi uzeli kts, kao jednu od rijetkih djevojaka na forumu, "na zub". pustite curu, ima pravo na mišljenje, kao uostalom i svi mi ovdje.
A da? Pogledaj malo Topic "Molim cjenjeno mišljenje" u svaštari.
rijetko kad citam topice u "svaštari", ali evo vidio sam taj topic. nemam nikakav komentar, samo mi je žao što su mnogi sebi dopustili da budu isprovocirani, umjesto da su sve ono lagano iscoolirali. |
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Dalen
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Posted - 14/05/2006 : 00:56:12
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A ne citam ni ja baš cesto (otkad nema sci-fi serija na TV - topic o njima). Procitam tu i tamo, ali sam naletio na taj "interesantan" topic. Toj curi mora da jaaako dosadno u životu. |
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torca
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Posted - 14/05/2006 : 11:37:43
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quote: Originally posted by Goran M.
quote: Originally posted by torca
gorane, sugestija i pitanje: 1) kopirnica, a ne kopirAOnica 2) u stripu se spominje terorist koji se potpisiva ka "bombas". kako to pise u originalu? nije bas iz pocetka 90-ih, al palo mi je na pamet da se radi o tedu kaczynskom poznatijem pod nadimkom "unabomber"
1) Ne, više volim drugi oblik. 2) Da je potpis bio Unabomber, tako bi i ostao. Koliko se sjecam, bilo je više poznatijih, a to što scenarij spominje samo devedesete ne mora znaciti da se ne misli na Teda. Sad kad me PP podsjetio na original (ja ih, naime, nemam), možda bi bilo malo bolje da sam ostavio to Bomber, ali, IIRC, kad sam usput gledao, nisam našao ništa pametno.
kopirnica - uz svo duzno postovanje nemas ti tu nista vise ili manje volit. na tebi je samo da postujes ili ne postujes pravopis. bombas - ne znam je li "bomber" i talijanski izraz, ali bez obzira sve mi se visi cini da je castelli tu nesto pobrka. |
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Goran M.
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Posted - 14/05/2006 : 15:12:28
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quote: Originally posted by torca kopirnica - uz svo duzno postovanje nemas ti tu nista vise ili manje volit. na tebi je samo da postujes ili ne postujes pravopis.
Buduci da su oba oblika tocna, ne vidim kako štovanje pravopisa tu ulazi u igru.
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torca
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Posted - 14/05/2006 : 18:23:49
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quote: Originally posted by Goran M.
quote: Originally posted by torca kopirnica - uz svo duzno postovanje nemas ti tu nista vise ili manje volit. na tebi je samo da postujes ili ne postujes pravopis.
Buduci da su oba oblika tocna, ne vidim kako štovanje pravopisa tu ulazi u igru.
najnoviji pravopis koji iman doma je anicev i silicev iz 2001. u njemu se nalaze kopirnica i fotokopirnica. od kopiraonice i(li) fotokopiranice nista. u kojem pravopisu si ti vidija "kopiraonica" ka prihvaljitv izraz? iskreno, premda nikad u zivotu nisan od apsolutno nikog cua da koristi izraz "kopiraonica", izgleda mi gramaticki ispravniji (jer mi je logicno da prostorija ima naziv od kopiranja, a ne od... khm, kopiratelja?). ali nije. |
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