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Emir Pasanovic
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 21/01/2007 : 23:36:31
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quote: Originally posted by idado Momcina koji ne pamti ni pionire , ni socijalizam ni bratstvo - jedinstvo , a ima takav stav. Mogu samo reci: SVAKA CAST JARO!!!
Da ne ostanem duzan ni srbima: ni kod vas nije ništa bolje, da ikako možete samo na cirilici živjeti, živjeli bi.   
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Corto_Maltese
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Posted - 21/01/2007 : 23:44:45
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quote: ja, eto, znam glagoljicu...koja mi nicemu ne služi u svakodnevnom životu... ...a što se tice cirilice...nitko nas više ne tjera + nemamo potrebe za time + malo je previše ocekivati da to ucimo zato da bismo mogli citati politikin...ako se politikin želi prodavati u Hrvatskoj, neka ga štampaju na latinici i na hrvatskom jeziku, ja sam siguran da bi našao svoju citalacku publiku
Moze se posmatrati i obrnuto, ako neko zeli citati Politikin zabavnik moze nauciti cirilicu, kao sto onaj ko zeli citati DC ili Marvela u orginalu nauci engleski ili ako zeli Bonelija nauci italijanski , jer pitanje je da li se isplati PZ, da stampa jedan deo tiraza na latinicnom pismu,a drugi deo na cirilici. Sve je stvar trzista (malo i politike, da se ne lazemo )
quote: Dva polugodišta kada imaš 7 ili 8 godina su možda dovoljna da nauciš cirilicu, ali nisu da stekneš naviku upotrebe i citanja. Sada, jedini hrvati i bošnjaci koji ce dati svojoj djeci knjige na cirilici su oni koji cijene knjigu po onom što ona jeste, a ne na kom jeziku ili kojim pismom je napisana. Složicemo se da su ti procenti mizerni, svaka cast izuzecima. Ja sam se tek nedavno natjerao da opet pocnem pisati cirilicu, štobseonoreklo ukoso, i još uvijek mi je neprirodno pisati neka slova. A ja NIKADA nisam izgubio naviku citanja na cirilici. Dan danas je omjer pisama u knjigama moje licne biblioteke, recimo, 60:40 u korist latinice (vecinom jer u posljednje vrijeme kupujem samo knjige na engleskom).
nazalost, okolnosti su te koje su uticale na ovo gore opisano, ali ipak stvar je opste kulture da poznajes oba pisma (mislim u BiH), jer na taj nacin samo mozes biti bogatiji nikako siromasniji.
Zalosno je kada covek ne zna sta hoce, a katastrofalno kada ne zna koliko moze!
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XIII
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Serbia
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Posted - 22/01/2007 : 00:37:23
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ma sve je to stvar izdavaca. Glupo je o tome raspravljati jer uvek moze da se ide dalje. Siguran sam da bi se ,bar polovina ljudi koji bi voleli da zabavnik izlazi na latinici, u tom slucaju bunili zasto nije na njihovom jeziku,na ijekavici i slicno. Najlakse je naci manu,a po meni je bitan kvalitet koji pz nesumnjivo ima. Verujem da svaki izdavac zeli vece trziste,te da se mozda jednog dana pz pojavi u Hrvatskoj kao sto je Egmont ucinio sa Miki Mausom u Srbiji
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dule_car
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Slovenia
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Posted - 22/01/2007 : 09:18:32
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neka skinu ono Politikin iz Zabavnik, naprave neku kvazi domacu redakciju (ko' i drugi strani casopisi koji sam prepisuju clanke sa engleskog;)) i vec bi se citalo... baš ce klinci ucit još jedno pismo samo za PZ... nisu svi naucili cirilicu ni dok se ucila obavezno. osobno ne vidim neki problem u citanju kirilice:)) (cak ni ruske), ali klincadiju to ne zanima (a sveprisutnu politiku- ne novinsku kucu- necemo ni spominjati)
to e to
---there is no spoon--- (a viljuske?)
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delboj
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 22/01/2007 : 09:49:10
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Pa sigurno je da bi uvijek bilo nezadovoljnih, ali sve je to besmisleno. Meni ni najmanje ne smeta zašto npr. Politikin Zabavnik nema izdanje za BiH na ijekavici, jer rijetko kad obracam pažnju kad nešto citam da li je cirliica ili latinica, ijekavica ili ekavica.
Bez potrebe se ovdje neki ljudi bune protiv cirilice. Kao cirilica je srpsko pismo i to ne treba ni uciti ni koristiti. A ne znaju da je cirlica nekad bila mnogo više upotrebljavna u Hrvatskoj nego u srpskim zemljama. Tek kasnije se pojavljuje latinica. Ali danas je drugacije. |
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SejoSexon
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Austria
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Posted - 22/01/2007 : 10:31:21
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Meni cirilica ne smeta, drago mi je da sam imao priliku da je ucim u školi. PZ dolazi u Bec veoma rijetko, no kada stigne obavezno ga kupim.
But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
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wiskey
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Croatia
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Posted - 22/01/2007 : 11:02:05
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Delboj, o cemu pricaš. Kakva cirilica u Hrvatskoj. To je bila GLAGOLJICA. Toliko o tome. Što se tice znanja citanja (i pisanja) cirilice, normalno je da covjeku (normalnom)to mora biti PLUS u životu, jer SVE što znaš, a ima bilo gdje nekoga tko to ne zna, mora biti tvoj plus. Samo ljubomorni (i novokomponirani) to ne prihvacaju i s tim se treba pomiriti. To ide na njihov ponos. (Uh, ala mi ide ova filizofija.) |
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lwood
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Colombia
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Posted - 22/01/2007 : 11:16:55
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quote: Originally posted by wiskey
Delboj, o cemu pricaš. Kakva cirilica u Hrvatskoj. To je bila GLAGOLJICA. Toliko o tome. Što se tice znanja citanja (i pisanja) cirilice, normalno je da covjeku (normalnom)to mora biti PLUS u životu, jer SVE što znaš, a ima bilo gdje nekoga tko to ne zna, mora biti tvoj plus. Samo ljubomorni (i novokomponirani) to ne prihvacaju i s tim se treba pomiriti. To ide na njihov ponos. (Uh, ala mi ide ova filizofija.)
slažen se.šta više znaš bolje za tebe.ali je suludo ocekivat da ce to ko danas ucit u HR.ne znaju je ni svi stariji od 25 a kamoli mladi.
inner fear your worst enemy ostali smo svi na tripu,staro,mlado život cili ,ostali smo svi na tripu pivajuci NAPRID BILI!! |
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Corto_Maltese
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Posted - 22/01/2007 : 11:28:01
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kao sto XIII rece, i kada bi se štampao na latinici opet bi se pronašli pametnjakovici, kojima bi smetalo što je na srpskom (na ekavici) tako da bi teško PZ dostigao neku vecu prodaju u HR (pitanje je koliko bi faktor - nostalgija, uticala na prodaju da je PZ na latinici) . Sa druge strane, jedini nacin, jeste nastupiti sa drugim imenom i to na hrvatskom jeziku pa da se ocekuje neka znacajnija prodaja(tipa Egmonta u Srbiji), ali opet posle analize tržišnih prilika da li ima produ takav casopis.
Zalosno je kada covek ne zna sta hoce, a katastrofalno kada ne zna koliko moze!
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delboj
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 22/01/2007 : 22:25:28
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quote: Originally posted by wiskey
Delboj, o cemu pricaš. Kakva cirilica u Hrvatskoj. To je bila GLAGOLJICA. Toliko o tome. Što se tice znanja citanja (i pisanja) cirilice, normalno je da covjeku (normalnom)to mora biti PLUS u životu, jer SVE što znaš, a ima bilo gdje nekoga tko to ne zna, mora biti tvoj plus. Samo ljubomorni (i novokomponirani) to ne prihvacaju i s tim se treba pomiriti. To ide na njihov ponos. (Uh, ala mi ide ova filizofija.)
Znam o cemu pricam, bila je i cirilica i glagoljica. Latinica se pojavila kasnije, a glagoljica se zadržala ponegdje u upotrebi u Hrvatskoj cak do XVIII vijeka |
Edited by - delboj on 23/01/2007 09:11:39 |
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majmun
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Croatia
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Posted - 22/01/2007 : 23:08:13
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quote: Originally posted by delboj
quote: Originally posted by wiskey
Delboj, o cemu pricaš. Kakva cirilica u Hrvatskoj. To je bila GLAGOLJICA. Toliko o tome. Što se tice znanja citanja (i pisanja) cirilice, normalno je da covjeku (normalnom)to mora biti PLUS u životu, jer SVE što znaš, a ima bilo gdje nekoga tko to ne zna, mora biti tvoj plus. Samo ljubomorni (i novokomponirani) to ne prihvacaju i s tim se treba pomiriti. To ide na njihov ponos. (Uh, ala mi ide ova filizofija.)
Znam o cemu pricam, bila je i cirilica i glagoljica. Latinica se pojavila kasnije, a glagoljica se zadržala ponegdje u upotrebi u Hrvatskoj cak do XIII vijeka
Glagoljica se u nekim krajevima Hrvatske odrzala sve do 19. stoljeca, a ne 13.. |
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delboj
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 23/01/2007 : 09:13:46
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quote: Originally posted by majmun Glagoljica se u nekim krajevima Hrvatske odrzala sve do 19. stoljeca, a ne 13..
Mislio sam na XVIII vijek, nisam dobro napisao rimski broj, ali možda je bilo i u XIX vijeku. |
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wiskey
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Croatia
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delboj
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 23/01/2007 : 09:25:10
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Prvo se u Hrvatskoj mnogo više koristila cirilica nego glagoljica, tamo do 15. ili 16. vijeka, a srpski spomenici su do tada pisani glagoljicom. Onda se tek kasnije pocinje upotrebljavati više glagoljica u Hrvatskoj, dok kod Srba ostaje samo cirilica. |
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SejoSexon
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Austria
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Posted - 23/01/2007 : 09:41:34
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Dosta više o cirilici i glagoljici, ovo prelazi na politiku.
But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
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idado
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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delboj
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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