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zloskot
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 10:20:41
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quote: Originally posted by dveribad
-Katastrofa!-Možda bi ovo bila dobra tema za HTV-ovu "emisiju" OTVORENO....
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zloskot
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 10:26:59
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quote: Originally posted by TrOMISLAWSKI
Da ne bi bilo pogreške to sam bio ja koji sam popizdio (prije par mjeseci kad je bila rasparava o cijeni albuma i da su izdavaci lopovi jer rade 500 kom. tvrdog uveza)ne Radic, tako da pogledaš tko piše, a to što ljudi misle da sam ja Radic...
ne lupetaj. imate vi zajednicni nik. zar se ne dozivate sa "ljubavi joj vidi sta ovaj pise, tatu mu... mmmmm"? |
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 10:32:02
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TrOMISLAWSKI, a zašto se ti javljaš, zar Nebojša nema muda da se pojavi na forumu?
But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
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zloskot
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 10:34:52
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sejo, nebojsa je sigurno veliki biznismen i spusta se sa drveta samo u posebnim prilikama. t.j. samo kad je ugrozena CIJELA planeta majmuna.   |
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 10:38:06
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quote: Originally posted by zloskot
sejo, nebojsa je sigurno veliki biznismen i spusta se sa drveta samo u posebnim prilikama. t.j. samo kad je ugrozena CIJELA planeta majmuna.  

But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
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DeeCay
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 10:46:35
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A da se vas dvojica svejedno nadete na kavici i to prokomentirate uz jedan burek? Ali onaj pravi, od mesa? Pismene prepiske preko neta nisu isto ko i spika u cetiri oka...
Kad nas vidiš, ne bi rekao da možemo stvarati svjetove, zar ne? |
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 10:53:01
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quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
A da se vas dvojica svejedno nadete na kavici i to prokomentirate uz jedan burek? Ali onaj pravi, od mesa? Pismene prepiske preko neta nisu isto ko i spika u cetiri oka...
Kad nas vidiš, ne bi rekao da možemo stvarati svjetove, zar ne?
Deecay, burek može biti samo s mesom. Ne postoji burek sa sirom itd. To je sirnica. 
But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
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DeeCay
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 10:54:24
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Baš tako, Sejo, zato velim pravi od mesa. U Zg je sve burek, i od jabuke i od mesa pa i od sira...
Kad nas vidiš, ne bi rekao da možemo stvarati svjetove, zar ne? |
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zloskot
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Markos
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 10:56:27
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quote: Originally posted by Rache A i vec prije se na forumu pisalo o cudnim konkurentskim potezima SA i BG-a pa me to sve uopce ne cudi al mislim stvarno: pa radi se o nakladama od 500 komada - ko da se tu moze vrtiti neka ogromna lova (ako se varam onda smo svi mi kupci tu najveci naivci i budale) I kao kupac moram reci da me stvarno nije briga tko sto radi i zasto nego kako ce to izgledati i koliko ce kostati.
Pazi, ja sam mali izdavac u odnosu na Bookglobe i ekipu i sto se mene tice, tu se vrti velika lova - u smislu da se stvarno puno mora uloziti da bi se nesto objavilo. Ilustracije radi - samo tisak prvih 6 Fibrinih albuma kosta preko 100.000 kuna. Pa tu jos idu prava, prijevod, prijelom, dizajn... naraste to brzo. Ali, sad uzmi nekog velikog izdavaca, npr. Bookglobe - koji je prosle godine objavio 29 albuma - plus jos dosta kiosk izdanja - Wondercity, SpiderMan/Xman, Kriminal/Satanik, Garfield - to je zaista ogromna lova ulozena u to. I naravno, prvo je treba povratiti, sto nije lako, pogotovo na kioscima, pogotovo na albumima koji su novost i nepoznanica publici, i pogotovo ako se ljudi bune i zale na ovo ili ono (npr. bilo je puno buke oko UXM ili USM prijevoda), pa tek onda i zaraditi.
quote: Originally posted by Rache P.S. @Markos Ovo i nije prvi put da "gospodin" Radic vrijedja ljude koji se usudjuju bilo sto komentirati u njegovim izdanjima i to mu se uvijek na ovom forumu toleriralo.Kad se vrijedja druge onda u redu ali ako je osobno onda nije?
Ja sam i onda reagirao, pomirljivo i tolerantno, (mislim, sto, da sam ga izbacio jer vrijedja ljude, onda bi tek popizdio na mene i optuzio me za kojesta) pokusavajuci imati obzira, pogotovo na onim topicima o Ultimate prijevodima, cak sam i branio Tomicu kad je reagirao burno, jer je u principu bio u pravu, mada ton nije bio primjeren. Ali ocito da sve to nije shvaceno kao pozitivno s moje strane - jer ako kazes sto pohvala pa onda jednu kritiku - katastrofa. to je takav mentalni sklop - jednostavno ne podnosi bilo kakvu kritiku. Procitaj topice u prijevodu Ultimatea pa ces vidjeti - covjek konkretno i argumentirano secira prijevod liniju po liniju, a ovaj ga vrijedja. Ili, uzmi i procitaj uvodnik u Sto mu gromova - tamo pise nesto tipa "cekamo vase prijedloge, komentare i kritike, ali nemojte nas gnjaviti svakavkvim glupostima tipa ...." Mislim, wtf?
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Markos
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 11:06:17
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quote: Originally posted by Duh_koji_hoda
OCEMO PUNISHER OD PARLOVA U FIBRINOM iZDANJU!!!!!
Ja sam imao dogovor sa Marvelom u vezi Goranovog Punishera, kao i u vezi Macanovog i Zezeljovog Dead man running, taman smo trebali potpisati ugovore i onda je dosao Bookglobe i game over. Slicna stvar sa x drugih stvari. Pitamo Francuze za neka prava - slobodna su - ok, mi bi to radili - samo malo, da nesto provjerimo... ne, ipak nisu vise slobodna. Pitamo opet za nesto trece - ista stvar. Itd itd...
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nenno
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 11:10:50
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quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
Baš tako, Sejo, zato velim pravi od mesa. U Zg je sve burek, i od jabuke i od mesa pa i od sira...
Kad nas vidiš, ne bi rekao da možemo stvarati svjetove, zar ne?
tako su nas ucili, ali stari mi je bio u JNA u Sarajevu i veli da je pravi burek jedino od mesa.....
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Markos
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 11:14:08
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quote: Originally posted by darth-vader
ako si primjetio u mom prethodnom postu samo je jedan od 4 kupio Srce jer je znao što želi, ostali su ga uzeli jer su ga usput vidjeli u Libellus opcenito ude puuuno manje ljudi nego u MC i shodno tome manje je onih koji ga kupe usput. Ne kupuju svi ono što žele, nekima neke stvari treba nametnuti. Kao shoping centrima, 50% kupljene robe ljudi nisu imali namjeru kupiti, nego su je kupili jer su je vidjeli
MM gigante je došla kupiti ekipa koja je to htjela i takvih je 500, no da li je 500 onih koji žele uzeti Bosanske Basne? Naravno da u to ne vjerujem. Da bi se takvo jedno izdanje održalo potrebni su i oni slucajni. Neznam brojke, no vjerujem da je MC prodavao oko cetvrtine ili petine naklade, što je fantasticno, dam se kladiti da od tih 100 brojeva koji su se prodali u MC-u se u Libellusu nece prodati niti 40% što je ogroman manjak na jednu takvu malu nakladu.
Takoder sumnjam da ce se Libellusova izdanja dobro prodavati. MM, NN i možda No, ali Spirou, Klara, Ridobradi ? Teško da ovdje ima 300 ljudi koji ce otrcati u Libellus po novog Spiroua. Odredeni dio niti zna za site, niti za Libellus, a da ga vidi u MC-u, kupio bi ga. Ne želim biti zloguki prorok, ali imam neki filing da to sve ide k vragu
if you only knew the power of the dark side
Fibra radi relativno nekomercijalne i nepoznate stvari i naravno da je potrebno da budu sto bolje promovirane, izlozene, dostupne i naravno da nama ne odgovara da nas nema u MC (da se razumijemo, ne odgovara ni More Comicsu, jer oni gube svojih 30% zarade od cijene svakog prodanog stripa - njih je Nebojsa ucijenio i oni su morali prihvatiti - ali sigurno im se to ne svidja) i to ce se sigurno osjetiti na prodaji, ne previse, ali hoce, vidjet cemo. No to samo znaci da treba naci alternativne kanale prodaje, pa cu se potruditi oko toga, cim prije. A mozda i ode sve kvragu, nije iskljuceno.
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majmun
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 11:14:13
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quote: Originally posted by SejoSexon
quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
A da se vas dvojica svejedno nadete na kavici i to prokomentirate uz jedan burek? Ali onaj pravi, od mesa? Pismene prepiske preko neta nisu isto ko i spika u cetiri oka...
Kad nas vidiš, ne bi rekao da možemo stvarati svjetove, zar ne?
Deecay, burek može biti samo s mesom. Ne postoji burek sa sirom itd. To je sirnica. 
Sve je to burek. U Bosni je tursku rijec "boerek" zamjenila "pita" (sireg znacenja). Dakle, ako cemo po izvorniku, burek nije samo s mesom. U Zagrebu je burek sve (s mesom, sirom...), zato jer su ga donijeli Albanci kod kojih burek znaci cijelu paletu jela od tijesta kao i kod Turaka. :-)
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 11:15:50
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quote: Originally posted by majmun
quote: Originally posted by SejoSexon
quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
A da se vas dvojica svejedno nadete na kavici i to prokomentirate uz jedan burek? Ali onaj pravi, od mesa? Pismene prepiske preko neta nisu isto ko i spika u cetiri oka...
Kad nas vidiš, ne bi rekao da možemo stvarati svjetove, zar ne?
Deecay, burek može biti samo s mesom. Ne postoji burek sa sirom itd. To je sirnica. 
Sve je to burek. U Bosni je tursku rijec "boerek" zamjenila "pita" (sireg znacenja). Dakle, ako cemo po izvorniku, burek nije samo s mesom. U Zagrebu je burek sve (s mesom, sirom...), zato jer su ga donijeli Albanci kod kojih burek znaci cijelu paletu jela od tijesta kao i kod Turaka. :-)
Ja ovdje govorim o bosanskom bureku a ne o turskom böreku. 
But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
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Markos
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 11:17:01
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quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
A da se vas dvojica svejedno nadete na kavici i to prokomentirate uz jedan burek? Ali onaj pravi, od mesa? Pismene prepiske preko neta nisu isto ko i spika u cetiri oka...
Ja sam uvijek za to. No, nakon ovoga:
"Picka ti mateina. Ti ceš meni komentirati posao. Pa ko si ti jebo ti pas mater. Još jedna rijec od tebe i gasim te u More Comicsu pa prodaj svoju robu gdje hoceš. Ako misliš da ne mogu isprobaj me."
nisam bas siguran da mogu mirno, razumno i civilizirano komunicirati s osobom koja mi je to izgovorila. Možeš mi reci što god hoceš, da sam idiot, kreten, majmun ovo ono, ali psovat mi mater...
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DeeCay
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 11:18:43
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Aha, znaci ima više tumacenja bureka.. Moja gazdaria se uvijek hvasta da je pravi burek s mesom, a sad vidim da ima i albanske verzije boereka.
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 11:19:14
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Da sam na Edvinovom mjestu, odjebao bih Nebojšu, MC može opstati bez izdanja Bookglobe-a.
But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
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zloskot
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 11:23:31
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
Ja sam imao dogovor sa Marvelom u vezi Goranovog Punishera, kao i u vezi Macanovog i Zezeljovog Dead man running, taman smo trebali potpisati ugovore i onda je dosao Bookglobe i game over. Slicna stvar sa x drugih stvari. Pitamo Francuze za neka prava - slobodna su - ok, mi bi to radili - samo malo, da nesto provjerimo... ne, ipak nisu vise slobodna. Pitamo opet za nesto trece - ista stvar. Itd itd...
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darth-vader
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 11:24:58
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Turci kažu burek i za onaj sa sirom i za onaj s mesom, tako da ta stalna podbadanja tipa burek je samo onaj s mesom ne drže vodu. Zašto bi se ugledali na Bosnu, ona je loše prevela Turke i od tuda ti nesporazumi :)
quote: njih je Nebojsa ucijenio i oni su morali prihvatiti - ali sigurno im se to ne svidja
a gdje bi on prodavao svoju robu da nema MC-a ?
quote: Da sam na Edvinovom mjestu, odjebao bih Nebojšu, MC može opstati bez izdanja Bookglobe-a
teeško, ipak su oni jedna od najjacih produkcija, to bi bio potez pravac Mirogoj
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zloskot
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 11:25:53
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quote: Originally posted by SejoSexon
Da sam na Edvinovom mjestu, odjebao bih Nebojšu, MC može opstati bez izdanja Bookglobe-a.
But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
sejo sve je to ista stara skola. meni da bagra zajebe ugovor: šamarati, šamarati i šamarati. pa onda malo financijske da pogleda knjige. |
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Dok Lester
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 11:26:50
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jutros sam na radiju 101 cuo da se groblje za pedere zove mirogEj :-)))
(ovo, nema veze s edvinom, vec s mirogojem ;-)
"When I do good, I feel good; when I do bad, I feel bad, and that is my religion." |
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DeeCay
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 11:27:04
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
A da se vas dvojica svejedno nadete na kavici i to prokomentirate uz jedan burek? Ali onaj pravi, od mesa? Pismene prepiske preko neta nisu isto ko i spika u cetiri oka...
Ja sam uvijek za to. No, nakon ovoga:
"Picka ti mateina. Ti ceš meni komentirati posao. Pa ko si ti jebo ti pas mater. Još jedna rijec od tebe i gasim te u More Comicsu pa prodaj svoju robu gdje hoceš. Ako misliš da ne mogu isprobaj me."
nisam bas siguran da mogu mirno, razumno i civilizirano komunicirati s osobom koja mi je to izgovorila. Možeš mi reci što god hoceš, da sam idiot, kreten, majmun ovo ono, ali psovat mi mater...
Necu pametovati (pošto nisam u istoj situaciji), no na netu i preko maila se svašta naprica i ljudi se usude reci baš sve baš zato jer se ne moraju suociti sa personom u stvarnosti. Za riješiti probleme slicne prirode, najbolji je pristup mano e mano. Cetri oka, cetri pesnice
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 11:27:10
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@ darthvader
1. Turski burek sa mesom nije isti kao bosanski burek sa mesom. Probaj jedan turski pa ceš vidjeti razliku.
2. MC je postojao i uspješno trgovao dok nije bilo Bookglobe-a.
Koliko znam Bookglobe ne prodaje svoja izdanja u Libellusu, ako izleti iz MC-a gdje ce ih onda prodavati?
But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
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DannyTrejo
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 11:27:46
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Ja se priklanjam bosanskoj varijanti. Samo je jedan burek (citaj: rolani, od mesa). Sve ostalo su pite (zeljanica, krumpiruša, sirnica etc.). :)
Iako su shvacanja u Hrvatskoj drukcija. :)
Nema boljeg obroka nego u piteriji Biba na Kvatricu: burek + jogurt + hurmašica.... mmm!
Poštenim putem ici bit' ce teško znaj Al' samo ceš tako stici gdje je vjecni sjaj |
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