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CortoMaltese
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axle munshine
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Serbia
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Posted - 02/04/2007 : 19:59:45
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quote: Originally posted by night
Film je Amerikanizovan i, ako se mogu uporedjivati,strip je puno bolji.
...uvek bio i bice...
...ah taj strip... |
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Duh_koji_hoda
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Serbia
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Posted - 02/04/2007 : 20:07:36
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quote: Originally posted by night
Film je Amerikanizovan i, ako se mogu uporedjivati,strip je puno bolji.
he he, a jel ti to hoces da kazes da strip nije amerikanizovan???
________________________ "Nikad nisam mogao da utvrdim koja me je od padavicarskih ekipa najvise palila. Metalke, pankerke ili hipici. Mogao si medju njima da nadjes samo najruznije i najbolje ribe na svetu. Sredina nije postojala. Carobni svet rokenrola." |
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DeeCay
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
21661 Posts
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Posted - 02/04/2007 : 23:48:11
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Pa, govorite što želite, no posrnuti je ljudski, i koliko god oni bili Spartanci, na kraju su ipak ljudi... A možda mi je i drago što je scenarist ubacio tu jednu ljudsku manu.
Kad nas vidiš, ne bi rekao da možemo stvarati svjetove, zar ne? Yu-bi-tu? Mi-tu! |
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beli luk
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Serbia
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Posted - 03/04/2007 : 09:57:57
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Meni jeste zamerka upravo zbog trenutka kad se desava. To je koliko se secam trenutak kada Leonida pocinje da gaji nadu da mogu i stvarno pobediti, pre povlacenja ostalih, i stvarno mislim da mu nije trebalo kukanje kapetana. Ja sam stvarno sve vreme ocekivao da ce da se razdere na njega i otera ga u qrac, jer mi se to nekako najvise uklapa u sliku Spartanaca. To je bilo diktatorsko drustvo, bez obzira sto se tamo nasiroko prica o slobodi i demokratiji, Sparta je bila narocito surova prema robovima, i generalno individualnost se nije ni malo cenila. Njihovi zivoti bili su posveceni drzavi pre svega. I poginuti u borbi, za Spartu, bila je najveca cast. I kako onda kapetan koji ceo svoj zivot zivi sa takvom idejom u glavi i ceo zivot vaspitava svoju decu da je to najveca cast, rasplace se kad se to dogodi? |
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DeeCay
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Croatia
21661 Posts
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Posted - 03/04/2007 : 10:26:07
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Kao prvo, sin mu nije umro casno, vidio si kako, a i htio se pohvaliti pred samim kraljem kakvog sina ima. Sinovljeva cast i muško potomstvo su im bili sve. Na pocetku kad 300-tka odlazi u rat, kapetan veli da svi ratnici imaju svog muškog nasljednika, a kapetanov sin je išao uz njega u rat, tako da on nije ostavio svog muškog nasljednika. Jucer sam opet pogledao scene. Kapetan mu prica kako se nije uspio oprostiti sa sinom i reci mu koliko mu je znacio, Leonida replicira da je i njegovo srce ispunjeno tugom, a kapetan ce na to: "A moje je ispunjeno gnjevom!" i ugledaš mu onaj ratnicki žar u ocima. Na trenutak ga uhvatila slabost, no cijelo vrijeme ga je držao taj Spartanski feeling cvrstine.
No, što se mene tice, imate i vi pravo na svoj doživljaj filma, tako da...
Kad nas vidiš, ne bi rekao da možemo stvarati svjetove, zar ne? Yu-bi-tu? Mi-tu! |
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DeeCay
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
21661 Posts
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Posted - 03/04/2007 : 11:24:23
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Prolistao strip... Postoji lik Kapetana i lik mladog Steliosa, u filmu su oni zamjenjeni subplotom oca Kapetana i njegovog sina Steliosa. Scene/prizori i lajnovi su uzeti dosta vjerno iz stripa. Strip sam po sebi možda ne daje dovoljno materijala za 1 film, tako da se scenarist ocito pobrinuo dodati nekolicinu subplotova.
Kad nas vidiš, ne bi rekao da možemo stvarati svjetove, zar ne? Yu-bi-tu? Mi-tu! |
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wiskey
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Croatia
1250 Posts
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Posted - 03/04/2007 : 11:28:18
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quote: Originally posted by beli luk
Meni jeste zamerka upravo zbog trenutka kad se desava. To je koliko se secam trenutak kada Leonida pocinje da gaji nadu da mogu i stvarno pobediti, pre povlacenja ostalih, i stvarno mislim da mu nije trebalo kukanje kapetana. Ja sam stvarno sve vreme ocekivao da ce da se razdere na njega i otera ga u qrac, jer mi se to nekako najvise uklapa u sliku Spartanaca. To je bilo diktatorsko drustvo, bez obzira sto se tamo nasiroko prica o slobodi i demokratiji, Sparta je bila narocito surova prema robovima, i generalno individualnost se nije ni malo cenila. Njihovi zivoti bili su posveceni drzavi pre svega. I poginuti u borbi, za Spartu, bila je najveca cast. I kako onda kapetan koji ceo svoj zivot zivi sa takvom idejom u glavi i ceo zivot vaspitava svoju decu da je to najveca cast, rasplace se kad se to dogodi?
U potpunosti kompaktibilan. |
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wanderer
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United Arab Emirates
3489 Posts
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Posted - 03/04/2007 : 12:34:54
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quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
...Na pocetku kad 300-tka odlazi u rat, kapetan veli da svi ratnici imaju svog muškog nasljednika, a kapetanov sin je išao uz njega u rat, tako da on nije ostavio svog muškog nasljednika. Jucer sam opet pogledao scene...
kako nije imao nasljednika? pa imao je jos jednog sina, koji ce zamijeniti ovog najstarijeg, nije li? |
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DeeCay
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Croatia
21661 Posts
Member since 24/09/2002 |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 15:18:14
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quote: Originally posted by wanderer
quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
...Na pocetku kad 300-tka odlazi u rat, kapetan veli da svi ratnici imaju svog muškog nasljednika, a kapetanov sin je išao uz njega u rat, tako da on nije ostavio svog muškog nasljednika. Jucer sam opet pogledao scene...
kako nije imao nasljednika? pa imao je jos jednog sina, koji ce zamijeniti ovog najstarijeg, nije li?
Leonida: On je tvoj sin.
Premlad je i da osjeti toplinu žene.
Imam druge da ga zamjene.
Kapetan: Hrabar je i spreman kao svi.
Leonida: Ništa mladi nego što smo mi bili kada smo stajali zajedno u bitci.
Kad nas vidiš, ne bi rekao da možemo stvarati svjetove, zar ne? Yu-bi-tu? Mi-tu! |
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wanderer
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United Arab Emirates
3489 Posts
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Posted - 03/04/2007 : 15:29:14
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quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
quote: Originally posted by wanderer
quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
...Na pocetku kad 300-tka odlazi u rat, kapetan veli da svi ratnici imaju svog muškog nasljednika, a kapetanov sin je išao uz njega u rat, tako da on nije ostavio svog muškog nasljednika. Jucer sam opet pogledao scene...
kako nije imao nasljednika? pa imao je jos jednog sina, koji ce zamijeniti ovog najstarijeg, nije li?
Leonida: On je tvoj sin.
Premlad je i da osjeti toplinu žene.
Imam druge da ga zamjene.
Kapetan: Hrabar je i spreman kao svi.
Leonida: Ništa mladi nego što smo mi bili kada smo stajali zajedno u bitci.
Deecay, malo si pogrijesio...
zapravo ide ovako - sad sam provjerio:
Leonida: On je tvoj sin. Premlad je i da osjeti toplinu žene.
Kapetan: Imam i druge da ga zamjene. Hrabar je i spreman kao svi. Ništa mladi nego što smo mi bili kada smo stajali zajedno u bitci.
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night
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Serbia
1711 Posts
Member since 07/07/2006 |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 19:28:14
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quote: Originally posted by Duh_koji_hoda
[quote]Originally posted by night
Film je Amerikanizovan i, ako se mogu uporedjivati,strip je puno bolji.
he he, a jel ti to hoces da kazes da strip nije amerikanizovan???
Dobro,dobro.Znas na sta sam mislio.Mozda bi tacniji izraz bio KOMERCIJALIZOVAN. |
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Jackson Trbosjekson
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Slovenia
294 Posts
Member since 25/09/2005 |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 20:09:57
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quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
Prolistao strip... Postoji lik Kapetana i lik mladog Steliosa, u filmu su oni zamjenjeni subplotom oca Kapetana i njegovog sina Steliosa.
Kako su zamjenjeni? Stelios iz stripa je isti kao i u filmu, onaj "boricemo se u sjeni" plavokosi. A kapetanov sin je bio samo pomenut u stripu, no u filmu je bio doraden lik.
Koljem po kucama |
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vope
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Montenegro
2968 Posts
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DKoor
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Croatia
1593 Posts
Member since 18/12/2006 |
Posted - 04/04/2007 : 12:34:16
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quote: Originally posted by supermark
quote: Ma Sin City je genijalan... i genijalno snimljen. Podsjeti covjeka kako je Mickey Rourke zapravo sjajan glumac. Tehnika snimanja... fotografija... upotreba boja... sve pet.
ne slazem se, film mi je poprilicno los. cekao sam kraj- kada ce se price povezati i dobiti nekakvu ispunjenu cjelinu, ali od toga nista, jedina poveznica su im bili likovi koji su se pojavljivali na nekoliko sekundi u drugim pricicma. Katastrofa!
dajem plus jedino prici s willisom i albom
Meni je taj film poprilicno dobar. U poplavi svakojakih uradaka svakako nešto što se zamjecuje. Ali je blago alternativan što možda nece naici na podršku širokog gledateljstva. Medutim to je vec stvar razlicitih ukusa.
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DeeCay
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Croatia
21661 Posts
Member since 24/09/2002 |
Posted - 05/04/2007 : 12:08:09
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quote: Originally posted by Jackson Trbosjekson
quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
Prolistao strip... Postoji lik Kapetana i lik mladog Steliosa, u filmu su oni zamjenjeni subplotom oca Kapetana i njegovog sina Steliosa.
Kako su zamjenjeni? Stelios iz stripa je isti kao i u filmu, onaj "boricemo se u sjeni" plavokosi. A kapetanov sin je bio samo pomenut u stripu, no u filmu je bio doraden lik.
Da, krivo, Kapetanov sin se zvao Atinos u filmu. No, ono što sam mislio je onaj okršaj izmedu Kapetana i Steliosa na pocetku stripa. To je izbaceno iz filma.
Kad nas vidiš, ne bi rekao da možemo stvarati svjetove, zar ne? Yu-bi-tu? Mi-tu! |
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DeeCay
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
21661 Posts
Member since 24/09/2002 |
Posted - 05/04/2007 : 12:10:31
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EJ ljudi, ako vam se Snyderov film "300" nije svidio, znajte da momak vec radi na "Watchmenima". U pretprodukciji je. Šuška se da bi ulogu mogao dobiti Gerard Butler, odnosno kralj Leonida.
Kad nas vidiš, ne bi rekao da možemo stvarati svjetove, zar ne? Yu-bi-tu? Mi-tu! |
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wiskey
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Croatia
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Posted - 07/04/2007 : 21:30:34
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quote: Originally posted by wiskey
quote: Originally posted by wiskey
Oni moji komentari u ovom topicu i dalje stoje. Samo, sada imam iskustvo više, pogledao sam film. E, pa gospodine moj koji si pisao o placu spartanskog kapetana, mogu ti sada reci da debelo griješiš. Ono uopce nije bio plac, nego krik bijesa. Ili puno bliže nego plac. Molim za komentar o tomu one koji su vidjeli film. Inace, film je FANTASTICAN.
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DeeCay
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
21661 Posts
Member since 24/09/2002 |
Posted - 07/04/2007 : 21:55:49
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quote: Originally posted by wiskey
Oni moji komentari u ovom topicu i dalje stoje. Samo, sada imam iskustvo više, pogledao sam film. E, pa gospodine moj koji si pisao o placu spartanskog kapetana, mogu ti sada reci da debelo griješiš. Ono uopce nije bio plac, nego krik bijesa. Ili puno bliže nego plac. Molim za komentar o tomu one koji su vidjeli film. Inace, film je FANTASTICAN.
E pa kaj ja otpocetka govorim... Na Leonidov izljev samilosti glede smti sina Kapetan i samveli da je njegovo srce puno bijesa, ne tuge i samilosti.
Kad nas vidiš, ne bi rekao da možemo stvarati svjetove, zar ne? Yu-bi-tu? Mi-tu! |
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vang0gh24
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Serbia
207 Posts
Member since 17/01/2004 |
Posted - 07/04/2007 : 23:28:34
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gledao sinoc film. film je odlicno uradjen, scene su da ti dah zastane. kao da se citav film svodi na velike vizualne momente koji se redjaju svakih nekoliko minuta, a film je samo nesto da se taj prostor izmedju velikih scena popuni. nisam mogao da verujem da u petoj nedelji prikazivanja filma, sala je bila 70% ispunjena. jedina zamerka su oni veliki govori puni patriotizma i prenaduvanosti, ali kasnije sam skontao da to nije krivica franka millera vec georga busha koji mi je svojom patetikom i slicnim govorima kvazi patriotizma zgadio takve govore za sva vremena. sada prvi put osecam zelju da strip nabavim, posto sam ovde u kanadi, moracu se zadovoljiti originalnim izdanjem :(
devojke su lude za mnom, prosle noci jedna je satima kucala na moja vrata ali je nisam pustio da....izadje |
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draskomisterno
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Serbia
1003 Posts
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Posted - 09/04/2007 : 08:20:37
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 ponovicu samo da je film SJAJAN,treci put sam ga pogledao sinoc u bioskopu(ovakvi filmovi se tamo i gledaju,a ne na kompu i na malenim televizorima)na trece gledanje dozivljaj je mnooogo jaci,film je prevazisao strip bas zbog te ljudske note koja je dodata,uostalom zarada je WORLDWIDE vec skoro 400 miliona $..a to dovoljno govori
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mifugo
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Dok Lester
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Posted - 10/04/2007 : 08:53:10
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gledao sinoc
NENADJEBIVO ! ! ! ! !
ne sjecam se kad sam toliko bio odusevljen filmom (a inace sam izbirljiva picajzla)
"When I do good, I feel good; when I do bad, I feel bad, and that is my religion." |
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vope
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Montenegro
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supermark
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