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anto
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Posted - 21/11/2009 : 18:41:06
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quote: Originally posted by Mhejl
Zaista ne mogu da shvatim zašto se toliko oduševljavate svakom novom broju Breda Berona. Meni je to izuzetno naivan i glup strip, sa promašenim protivnicima i promašenim glavnim junakom. A najgore je kada neki 'strucnjaci' tvrde da je bolji od Dampira. Neshvatljivo.
Evo druže, ja se javljam kao prvi strucnjak kome je BB bolji nego Dampir. Ne kažem da mi strip nije naivan ( a koji to Bonelli, sa izuzetkom KP nije ?), ali kada ga citam stvarno se opustim i uživam u laganom štivu, dok me Dampir cesto smori, a Boseli ponekad i iznervira svojim glupostima.
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mikado
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Posted - 21/11/2009 : 18:44:04
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quote: Originally posted by anto
quote: Originally posted by Mhejl
Zaista ne mogu da shvatim zašto se toliko oduševljavate svakom novom broju Breda Berona. Meni je to izuzetno naivan i glup strip, sa promašenim protivnicima i promašenim glavnim junakom. A najgore je kada neki 'strucnjaci' tvrde da je bolji od Dampira. Neshvatljivo.
Evo druže, ja se javljam kao prvi strucnjak kome je BB bolji nego Dampir. Ne kažem da mi strip nije naivan ( a koji to Bonelli, sa izuzetkom KP nije ?), ali kada ga citam stvarno se opustim i uživam u laganom štivu, dok me Dampir cesto smori, a Boseli ponekad i iznervira svojim glupostima.
Slažem se sasvim. |
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anto
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Posted - 21/11/2009 : 18:45:18
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Želeo bih da prokomentarišem poslednjeg DD. Sjajna epizoda.Stano maestralan kao i uvek, Medda udara pravo u glavu. Ne secam se kada me je neki Boneli ovako "dotakao". |
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Mhejl
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 21/11/2009 : 18:46:37
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quote: Originally posted by anto
quote: Originally posted by Mhejl
Zaista ne mogu da shvatim zašto se toliko oduševljavate svakom novom broju Breda Berona. Meni je to izuzetno naivan i glup strip, sa promašenim protivnicima i promašenim glavnim junakom. A najgore je kada neki 'strucnjaci' tvrde da je bolji od Dampira. Neshvatljivo.
Evo druže, ja se javljam kao prvi strucnjak kome je BB bolji nego Dampir. Ne kažem da mi strip nije naivan ( a koji to Bonelli, sa izuzetkom KP nije ?), ali kada ga citam stvarno se opustim i uživam u laganom štivu, dok me Dampir cesto smori, a Boseli ponekad i iznervira svojim glupostima.
Vecina Bonelijevih junaka ima svoje 'zlatno doba' koje nije toliko naivno. Ja sam pokušavao da citam Breda par puta ali bih se uvijek pošteno iznervirao. Pa molim vas, pogledajte samo one kilave vanzemaljce, lupetanje o 'morbovskom ekosistemu' i slab crtež (sa izuzetkom prvog broja). Imam osjecaj da je ovaj junak traljavo i neozbiljno zamišljen, buduci da kvalitetom podsjeca na SF filmove iz pedesetih.Kada ce Bred Beron imate price kao što su 'Pod kamenim mostom', 'Izgubljena duša', 'Transilvanijski ekspres'? Kada ce imati crtace kao što su Majo i Luka Rosi, kao što je Genzianela? Nisam želio da uvrijedim nikoga (neka svako cita ono što voli), ali me nekada iznervira oprecnost ovoga foruma. |
Edited by - Mhejl on 21/11/2009 18:52:28 |
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kreŠa
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Posted - 21/11/2009 : 18:55:24
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quote: Originally posted by kreŠa
A sci-fi filmovi iz 50-ih su bolji od onih iz novijeg doba? A i meni je Brad bolji od Dampyra. Volim horor, ali mi je Dampyr daleko od njega. Jeftina kopija vampirskih filmova. Ni Brad nije nista originalniji, ali mi prica bolje tece.
Nadbrojan sam... Barem dok ne dodu Džedson, DocA i Pajtos!  Mislim, kako vam prica može biti zanimljiva kada Bred na svakih 10-tak stranica ubije po dvadesetak Morbova (koji bi trebali biti opasni momci) brže od Logana? P.S Znam sledeci argumenat. Eeci cete da Dampir podjednako brzo tamani vampire, heh. Ali, barem su okršaji sa Gospodarima noci prilicno zanimljivi (osim kada Kolombo piše)
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mikado
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Posted - 21/11/2009 : 18:59:57
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quote: Originally posted by Mhejl
[quote]Originally posted by kreŠa
A sci-fi filmovi iz 50-ih su bolji od onih iz novijeg doba? A i meni je Brad bolji od Dampyra. Volim horor, ali mi je Dampyr daleko od njega. Jeftina kopija vampirskih filmova. Ni Brad nije nista originalniji, ali mi prica bolje tece.
Nadbrojan sam... Barem dok ne dodu Džedson, DocA i Pajtos!  Mislim, kako vam prica može biti zanimljiva kada Bred na svakih 10-tak stranica ubije po dvadesetak Morbova (koji bi trebali biti opasni momci) brže od Logana? P.S Znam sledeci argumenat. Eeci cete da Dampir podjednako brzo tamani vampire, heh. Ali, barem su okršaji sa Gospodarima noci prilicno zanimljivi (osim kada Kolombo piše)
Kod mene je razlog to što više volim sf od horora. |
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Tex Willer
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Posted - 21/11/2009 : 19:16:54
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quote: Originally posted by Mhejl
quote: Originally posted by kreŠa
A sci-fi filmovi iz 50-ih su bolji od onih iz novijeg doba? A i meni je Brad bolji od Dampyra. Volim horor, ali mi je Dampyr daleko od njega. Jeftina kopija vampirskih filmova. Ni Brad nije nista originalniji, ali mi prica bolje tece.
Nadbrojan sam... Barem dok ne dodu Džedson, DocA i Pajtos! 
Evo da podrzim zemljake Pajtosa i docAu. I meni je Dampyr sasvim ok strip |
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mikado
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mikado
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Posted - 21/11/2009 : 19:37:53
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quote: Originally posted by kreŠa
Po meni, lik nije dovoljno razvijen. Sve se svodi na trazenje Gospodara noci, obracun, par scena sa Kurjakom i Teslom.
Mislim da ce, ipak, naredni brojevi doneti i bliži kontakt sa ocem, Drakom i otkrivanje Dampirove misije, tako da iako nisam najzadovoljniji dosadašnjim razvojem, mislim da treba biti strpljiv još par desetina brojeva (tamo do 50-60 broja). Pa cak i da kvalitet ostane na dosadašnjem stepenu nastavicu da ga kupujem po inerciji. |
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manhunter
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Posted - 21/11/2009 : 20:02:42
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quote: Originally posted by anto nije naivan ( a koji to Bonelli, sa izuzetkom KP nije ?)
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Mhejl
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Posted - 21/11/2009 : 20:10:09
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quote: Originally posted by mikado
quote: Originally posted by kreŠa
Po meni, lik nije dovoljno razvijen. Sve se svodi na trazenje Gospodara noci, obracun, par scena sa Kurjakom i Teslom.
Mislim da ce, ipak, naredni brojevi doneti i bliži kontakt sa ocem, Drakom i otkrivanje Dampirove misije, tako da iako nisam najzadovoljniji dosadašnjim razvojem, mislim da treba biti strpljiv još par desetina brojeva (tamo do 50-60 broja). Pa cak i da kvalitet ostane na dosadašnjem stepenu nastavicu da ga kupujem po inerciji.
U sadašnjim epizodama se odvija ponovna karakterizacija glavnog junaka ('Transilvanijski ekspres', 'Tajna sedam gradova', 'Ðavolji napitak'). Najnovije epizode Dampira (mislim na one koje su sada izdate u Srbiji, a ne u Italiji) su izuzetno kvalitetne. Po meni, to su najkvalitetniji stripovi koje VC trenutno izdaje. A zašto smatrate da je lik Breda Berona dobro prikazan? Pitam iz ciste znatiželje, buduci da ja nemam takav utisak. |
Edited by - Mhejl on 21/11/2009 20:12:45 |
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kreŠa
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Posted - 21/11/2009 : 20:27:14
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quote: Originally posted by kreŠa A mislim da nije najkvalitetniji, mnogi drugi junaci imaju bolji prosek od njega.
Dilan je imao bolji prosjek, ali je sve otišlo dodavola sa pojavom Masijera. No, sada bi Dilanove price trebale biti sve bolje i bolje! Što se tice 'Ðavoljeg napitka'... Dobro, ukusi su razliciti. Meni se prica dopala. Može još jedno pitanje? Nadite mi samo jedan Bredov broj koji je bolji od Dampirove Transilvanijske sage i praških prica. Možete li?
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kreŠa
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Posted - 21/11/2009 : 20:39:57
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 Njega sam kupio u strahovitom naletu dosade, buduci da sam bio bolestan (a evo i sada me muci prehlada). Dao bih mu 6/10, ali se nikako ne može mjeriti sa obimom i maštom gorenavedenih prica. Ne mislim da je jedna laka pricica o Bredovoj mladosti i prijatelju/neprijatelju Kulidžu (cak sam i ime zapamtio, vau), sa nekoliko nelogicnosti (umro sam od smijeha kada su se borili sa onim pecinskim cudovištem), velicanstvena kao epopeja koja nam predocava Drakinu istoriju, ili kao atmosfera Praga, koja nam pokazuje moc Boselijeve mašte. Medutim, ne mogu poreci da je zanimljivo kada se malo prepiremo o STRIPOVIMA, a ne o dizajnu, štampi and company. |
Edited by - Mhejl on 21/11/2009 20:42:48 |
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Posted - 21/11/2009 : 20:53:17
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Meni se Transilvanijska saga dopala iz dva razloga: 1.Kada sam poceo da citam pocetak price, odmah sam se oduševio. Vidiš, to je zbog toga što sam konacno stekao utisak da pocinje nešto prekrasno, da pocinju pravi dogadaji i odlicne price. To se, za sada, pokazalo tacnim. Boseli je ubacio gomilu 'mamaca' i zanimljivosti za ljubitelje serijala, od nastavka nadogradivanja Harlanove licnosti, mocnog Drake, intrigantne price koja na trenutke podsjeca na neki istorijski roman, pa do zanimljivih dijaloga. Povratio sam vjeru u serijal...;) 2.Drugi bitan faktor je crtež, koji je fenomenalan! Crtac je uspio sve, ali apsolutno sve: stvorio je sjajnu atmosferu, dobru mimiku likova, odlicno nacrtanu okolinu, guste i detaljne vinjete... Neko je napisao:''Sjencenje je fenomenalno! Sijenke su nacrtane kao crne mreže, što izgleda fenomenalno & jezivo!''. Potpuno se slažem. P.S Kažep da si obilazio zamkove u Rumuniji? Zanimljivo. Ja cu jednog dana posjetiti piramide. U Visokom, naravno.  |
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