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dsormaz1
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 Posted - 05/07/2011 : 20:13:43
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Nisu li Jakobinci bili nekakvi radikalni liberali?
Radikalni liberali 
Ne poznaješ ti baš povijest previše jelda?
To je ko da si rekao komunisticki skinsi..ili možda drveno željezo..
ova ti je odlicna
Šteta što mu je sestra. |
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paro
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 20:16:07
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"egalite, LIBERTE i fraternite".
Poceli smo googlat pomalo ha??
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dsormaz1
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 20:20:43
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Originally posted by paro
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"egalite, LIBERTE i fraternite".
Poceli smo googlat pomalo ha??
Nisam znao da je google postojao još davno, dok sam išao u školu gdje sam to naucio. |
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lwood
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 20:26:13
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Originally posted by lwood
da. bilo bi nam bolje s posebnim bordelima za svecenstvo kao nekad prije reformacije.
da popovi odreduju šta se smije a šta ne i da vjernici uzdržavaju gomile njihove izvanbracne dice.
baš super ideje 
Opet potežeš nešto što je bilo prije 500 godina, ako je to uopce tocno.
Zato je puno bolja ideja liberalizma koji promice i namece kulturu smrti.
zašto misliš da nije tocno? to su povijesne cinjenice.
i da. ideja Liberalizma je neuporedivo bolja i od "božjih država" i od komunistickih i od fašistickih itd .
odakle ti sad ova kultura smrti? |
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paro
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 20:27:17
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Originally posted by Beva
Problem je s liberalizmom taj što svatko uzme ono što mu odgovara a pljuje po ostalom... Siguran sam da je tebi drago što možeš slobodno ispovijedati svoju vjeru i naciju, možda u konzervativnijem društvu to ne bi svi mogli... Takoder vjerujem da ti je drago što možeš sam birati partnericu, što sam biraš fakultet i tako dalje...
E sad, zašto tako nešto uskracivati drugome, ako to tebi ni na koji nacin ne šteti? Tipa, ako netko voli marihuanu, a ne namece tebi konzumiranje iste, zašto tebe to pogada? Je li bolje da taj isti trune u zatvoru? Hoceš li onda biti zadovoljan, i je li kršcanski željeti drugome zlo samo zato što je razlicit od tebe?
Zašto tebe pogada što homoseksualci žele uci u brak s partnerima? Znaci, njihova nesreca tebe cini sretnim... Jer vidiš, i oni su ljudi kao i ti, s istim željama i strahovima, samo što njima ljudi poput tebe zagorcavaju život... A zašto? Samo zato što su drukciji? Ma koliko se trudio, necu nikad shvatiti takav mentalni sklop...
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dsormaz1
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dsormaz1
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 20:34:21
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Originally posted by lwood
odakle ti sad ova kultura smrti?
Pobacaji, eutanazije, legalizacije droga... tzv.liberalne vrednote...što je to? Promicanje vrijednosti života? |
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paro
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 20:35:17
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Vec sam mu odgovorio.
Ajoj sorry, nisam skužio izmedu postova di ti se svi smiju.. |
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paro
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 20:37:29
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Originally posted by dsormaz1
Pobacaji, eutanazije, legalizacije droga... tzv.liberalne vrednote...što je to? Promicanje vrijednosti života?
Šta je najtužnije od svega, ljudi poput tebe su definitivno najveca bolest društva.
Ti apsolutno nemaš pojma o cemu pricaš..
Zapravo, bilo kakva komunikacija s ljudima poput tebe je veliki šamar i korak u rikverc za covjecanstvo. Ðenja.. |
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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lwood
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 20:39:14
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Originally posted by dsormaz1
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Originally posted by lwood
odakle ti sad ova kultura smrti?
Pobacaji, eutanazije, legalizacije droga... tzv.liberalne vrednote...što je to? Promicanje vrijednosti života?
o cem pricaš ? misliš da to ne bi i da nije postojalo prije ?
Pobacaj ? postoji od davnina. nije svuda ni legalan
Eutanazija? to je prvi legalizira Hitler,a cini mi se da on baš i nije bia liberal.ili ja loše primjecujen?
legalizacije droga?? di? Marihuana je potpuno legalna u 3 države svita.
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dsormaz1
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 20:40:57
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Originally posted by paro
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Originally posted by dsormaz1
Vec sam mu odgovorio.
Ajoj sorry, nisam skužio izmedu postova di ti se svi smiju..
Smiju mi se tebi slicni bitnici. |
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Rada13
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 20:41:46
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Originally posted by dsormaz1
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Originally posted by lwood
odakle ti sad ova kultura smrti?
Pobacaji, eutanazije, legalizacije droga... tzv.liberalne vrednote...što je to? Promicanje vrijednosti života?
ti se sigurno sjecaš i bia si svega svjestan kad si bia nakupina stanica u majcinoj utrobi, da naravno da je bolje umirat u mukama par miseci ili vegetirat, nego umrit s dostojanstvom i prekinut agoniju, i da zašto bi legalizirali nešto što je manje opasno od alkohola, kad imamo vec legalni alkohol i cigarete koji sigurno ne izazivaju nikakvu ovisnost, niti dugotrajnom konzumacijom nanose nepopravljivu štetu...  daj sve te stvari su prisutne od pamtivjeka, onaj koji hoce pobacit obratit ce se nadriljecniku ili nestrucnim osobama, ako je abortus zabranjen, eutanazija svakako nije postojala u dobrim starim vremenima  , a za legalizaciju lakih droga se ne želim ponavljati sa prethodne stranice... blago tebi kad tako razmišljaš
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paro
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 20:42:12
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Smiju mi se tebi slicni bitnici.
Hvala ti na komplimentu...Adolfe.. |
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dsormaz1
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 20:46:25
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Šta je najtužnije od svega, ljudi poput tebe su definitivno najveca bolest društva.
Naprotiv, ljudi s poremecenim sustavom vrijednosti poput tebe prava su pošast društva.
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Ti apsolutno nemaš pojma o cemu pricaš..
Ja jako dobro znam o cemu pricam.
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Zapravo, bilo kakva komunikacija s ljudima poput tebe je veliki šamar i korak u rikverc za covjecanstvo. Ðenja..
Pozdrav i tebi i pazi da na toj tvojoj skliskoj liberalnoj stazi ne dodaš previše gasa kako se ne bi prerano sjurio u provaliju prema kojoj voziš. |
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paro
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 20:48:54
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Originally posted by dsormaz1
Naprotiv, ljudi s poremecenim sustavom vrijednosti poput tebe prava su pošast društva.
Problem je u tome što ti nemaš apsolutno nikakav sustav vrijednosti, samo mržnju. Al dobro za to nisi ti kriv, nego najvjerojatnije tvoji roditelji i stravican odgoj tj. neodgoj.. |
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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lwood
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 20:49:00
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iako nije tema topica,al pošto eto se spominje,stavicu zanimljiv clancic glede abortusa.
Legal or Not, Abortion Rates Compare
ROME, Oct. 11 — A comprehensive global study of abortion has concluded that abortion rates are similar in countries where it is legal and those where it is not, suggesting that outlawing the procedure does little to deter women seeking it.
Moreover, the researchers found that abortion was safe in countries where it was legal, but dangerous in countries where it was outlawed and performed clandestinely. Globally, abortion accounts for 13 percent of women’s deaths during pregnancy and childbirth, and there are 31 abortions for every 100 live births, the study said.
The results of the study, a collaboration between scientists from the World Health Organization in Geneva and the Guttmacher Institute in New York, a reproductive rights group, are being published Friday in the journal Lancet.
“We now have a global picture of induced abortion in the world, covering both countries where it is legal and countries where laws are very restrictive,” Dr. Paul Van Look, director of the W.H.O. Department of Reproductive Health and Research, said in a telephone interview. “What we see is that the law does not influence a woman’s decision to have an abortion. If there’s an unplanned pregnancy, it does not matter if the law is restrictive or liberal.”
But the legal status of abortion did greatly affect the dangers involved, the researchers said. “Generally, where abortion is legal it will be provided in a safe manner,” Dr. Van Look said. “And the opposite is also true: where it is illegal, it is likely to be unsafe, performed under unsafe conditions by poorly trained providers.”
The data also suggested that the best way to reduce abortion rates was not to make abortion illegal but to make contraception more widely available, said Sharon Camp, chief executive of the Guttmacher Institute.
In Eastern Europe, where contraceptive choices have broadened since the fall of Communism, the study found that abortion rates have decreased by 50 percent, although they are still relatively high compared with those in Western Europe. “In the past we didn’t have this kind of data to draw on,” Ms. Camp said. “Contraception is often the missing element” where abortion rates are high, she said.
Anti-abortion groups criticized the research, saying that the scientists had jumped to conclusions from imperfect tallies, often estimates of abortion rates in countries where the procedure was illegal. “These numbers are not definitive and very susceptible to interpretation according to the agenda of the people who are organizing the data,” said Randall K. O’Bannon, director of education and research at the National Right to Life Educational Trust Fund in Washington.
He said that the major reason women die in the developing world is that hospitals and health systems lack good doctors and medicines. “They have equated the word ‘safe’ with ‘legal’ and ‘unsafe’ with ‘illegal,’ which gives you the illusion that to deal with serious medical system problems you just make abortion legal,” he said.
The study indicated that about 20 million abortions that would be considered unsafe are performed each year and that 67,000 women die as a result of complications from those abortions, most in countries where abortion is illegal.
The researchers used national data for 2003 from countries where abortion was legal and therefore tallied. W.H.O. scientists estimated abortion rates from countries where it was outlawed, using data on hospital admissions for abortion complications, interviews with local family planning experts and surveys of women in those countries.
The wealth of information that comes out of the study provides some striking lessons, the researchers said. In Uganda, where abortion is illegal and sex education programs focus only on abstinence, the estimated abortion rate was 54 per 1,000 women in 2003, more than twice the rate in the United States, 21 per 1,000 in that year. The lowest rate, 12 per 1,000, was in Western Europe, with legal abortion and widely available contraception.
The Bush administration’s multibillion-dollar campaign against H.I.V./AIDS in Africa has directed money to programs that promote abstinence before marriage, and to condoms only as a last resort. It has prohibited the use of American money to support overseas family planning groups that provide abortions or promote abortion as a method of family planning.
Worldwide, the annual number of abortions appeared to have declined between 1995, the last year such a broad study was conducted, and 2003, from an estimated 46 million to 42 million, the study concluded. The 1995 study, by the Guttmacher Institute, had far less data on countries where abortion was illegal.
Some countries, like South Africa, have undergone substantial transitions in abortion laws in that time. The procedure was made legal in South Africa in 1996, leading to a 90 percent decrease in mortality among women who had abortions, some studies have found.
Abortion is illegal in most of Africa, though. It is the second-leading cause of death among women admitted to hospitals in Ethiopia, its Health Ministry has said. It is the cause of 13 percent of maternal deaths at hospitals in Nigeria, recent studies have found.
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dsormaz1
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 20:49:07
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Originally posted by lwood
Eutanazija? to je prvi legalizira Hitler,a cini mi se da on baš i nije bia liberal.ili ja loše primjecujen?
Znaci ako ju je on legalizirao sad bi ju trebalo legalizirati "moderno" liberalno društvo????
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legalizacije droga?? di? Marihuana je potpuno legalna u 3 države svita.
Za sad samo u 3, ali liberali rade na tome da postane svugdje legalna. |
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dsormaz1
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 20:50:34
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Originally posted by paro
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Originally posted by dsormaz1
Smiju mi se tebi slicni bitnici.
Hvala ti na komplimentu...Adolfe..
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lwood
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 20:51:17
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Originally posted by dsormaz1
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Originally posted by lwood
Eutanazija? to je prvi legalizira Hitler,a cini mi se da on baš i nije bia liberal.ili ja loše primjecujen?
Znaci ako ju je on legalizirao sad bi ju trebalo legalizirati "moderno" liberalno društvo????
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legalizacije droga?? di? Marihuana je potpuno legalna u 3 države svita.
Za sad samo u 3, ali liberali rade na tome da postane svugdje legalna.
a koji k. ima eutanazija s marihuanom?
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paro
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 20:54:33
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Originally posted by lwood
a koji k. ima eutanazija s marihuanom?
Zar ne vidiš da prepisuje parole iz stranacke knjižice..
Pobacaji, eutanazije, legalizacije droga... tzv.liberalne vrednote
Nadasve obrazovan i nacitan momak.. |
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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dsormaz1
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 20:55:52
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Originally posted by dsormaz1
Naprotiv, ljudi s poremecenim sustavom vrijednosti poput tebe prava su pošast društva.
Problem je u tome što ti nemaš apsolutno nikakav sustav vrijednosti, samo mržnju. Al dobro za to nisi ti kriv, nego najvjerojatnije tvoji roditelji i stravican odgoj tj. neodgoj..
Ne spominji mi roditelje ništarijo, nisi dostojan ni da im cipele ocistiš. Evo, i ti se razotkrivaš kao "veliki tolerantni" liberal. U nedostatku argumenata odgovaraš uvredama. Kada bi se susreo samnom bio bi manji od makovog zrna.
Pocinješ gubiti živce, potpuno nepotrebno. Malo apaurina za smirenje dobro ce ti doci.
Glede neodgoja od tebe se može puno nauciti. |
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lwood
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 20:55:57
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| ma nastavimo li ovako širit temu docemo i do digestivnog sustava opnokrilaca |
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dsormaz1
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 20:57:25
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Originally posted by lwood
a koji k. ima eutanazija s marihuanom?
Zar ne vidiš da prepisuje parole iz stranacke knjižice..
Pobacaji, eutanazije, legalizacije droga... tzv.liberalne vrednote
Nadasve obrazovan i nacitan momak..
Za razliku od tebe koji nisi došao dalje od slikovnica. |
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paro
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 21:01:01
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Originally posted by dsormaz1
Ne spominji mi roditelje ništarijo, nisi dostojan ni da im cipele ocistiš. Evo, i ti se razotkrivaš kao "veliki tolerantni" liberal. U nedostatku argumenata odgovaraš uvredama. Kada bi se susreo samnom bio bi manji od makovog zrna.
Pocinješ gubiti živce, potpuno nepotrebno. Malo apaurina za smirenje dobro ce ti doci.
Glede neodgoja od tebe se može puno nauciti.
Ne znam po cemu si zakljucio da gubim živce. Daj malo procitaj svojih zadnjih par postova.
To uopce nisu uvrede nego ocite cinjenice..da da, roditelji su krivi.. sve se uvijek svede na roditelje i odgoj..
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elva
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 21:03:00
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ima jedna simpaticna prica od Bukowskog u kojoj kaže da nas jebu društvenim poretkom,odgojem,crkvom,bankarskim sustavom ali ce te uhapsiti ako progutaš tabletu.
Tableta te može dovesti do ludila ali ništa više nego cupanje repe,pranje posuda,predavanje nekog predmeta u školi...
Ma koja marihuana,pa nije to problem.
Pored svih ovih tvornica oružja,ispušnih plinova,nuklearnih elektrana,zagadenja,umjetno podizanje i spuštanje vrijednosti papira kojeg zovemo novac,ratova za naftu,vodu,raznih benettona,Coca-cola radit cemo problem od tu neke biljke koja raste,i koja se eto,smota i popuši,ma daj!
Na kraju krajeva,u Afganistanu je zabranjen alkohol a tradicija je da se puši hašiš,znaci vjekovima.
Pa ti pogledaj odakle je došla arhitektura,temelji moderne medicine,poezija,umjetnost...
I sad vidi koliko je to nama van pameti.
Eh,ti napušeni arapi,kurca ne kuže.
I mislim da je list marihuane nešto najljepše u biljnom svijetu. |
Ja ili drugi,razlike su to posrijedi.
Pa ti kontaj sada,šta je sve to šta nas djeli. |
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