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King Warrior
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Posted - 22/04/2014 : 10:39:34
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quote: Originally posted by acestroke
I ja se pitam zasto se ova slika odozgo upotrijebila za recenziju, umjesto ona Maxi naslovnica...
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Nismo nasli sliku u dobroj rezoluciji, pomalo hebe nezgodna Zagijeva poza i tekst koji sasjeca sliku sa lijeve strane. Tako da sam odabrao neutralnu sliku. Bolje i to nego losnjikavu mutnu sliku maxi izdanja. |
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PijaniPatak
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PijaniPatak
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 22/04/2014 : 14:57:55
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Tek sada kada ih stavim ovako na hrpu vidim koliko su te domaće naslovnice bile limitirane i jednolične... pa većina ih je napravljena na istu foru gdje prikazuju Zagora u borbi protiv indijanskih ili bijelih protivnika. Nema nikakve maštovitosti u njima, jedine dvije koje se razlikuju su Klanac bele smrti i Čiko zavodnik dok je sve ostalo stvarno loše.  |
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Opti
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Posted - 22/04/2014 : 15:14:10
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Fale Čiko pecaroš, Beli ris i Demoni iz šume.
Mislim da su mi najbolje Klanac bele smrti, Gvozdena stupica i Turnir u Darkvudu. Ostalo je sve na istu foru. |
Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübert ragungsgesetz!! |
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nagor
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Posted - 22/04/2014 : 15:57:18
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quote: Originally posted by PijaniPatak
evo našao sam gde sam skupio većinu
mislim da nisam ni jednu propustio.
Meni je to žalosno gledat. Toliko genijalnih crtača i umjetnika postojalo u njegovo vrijeme, ali ne... čast, da se duboko utisne u strip kulturu cijele Jugoslavije je dobio taj anti-talent mikica ili kako mu već ime. Nije to zaslužio. |
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tinton
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Posted - 22/04/2014 : 15:59:06
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quote: Originally posted by nagor
quote: Originally posted by PijaniPatak
evo našao sam gde sam skupio većinu
mislim da nisam ni jednu propustio.
Meni je to žalosno gledat. Toliko genijalnih crtača i umjetnika postojalo u njegovo vrijeme, ali ne... čast, da se duboko utisne u strip kulturu cijele Jugoslavije je dobio taj anti-talent mikica ili kako mu već ime. Nije to zaslužio.
Pretjeruješ! Antitalent sigurno nije. Ja se bojim da je on crtao kako su mu naredili, a dalje se nije brinuo. Pogledaj je li antitalent u njegovim drugim radovima. Ni blizu. |
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nagor
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Posted - 22/04/2014 : 16:01:50
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Da se poslužim tvojim rječnikom tintone. Mikica - največi anti-talent u povijesti univerzuma... što se tiče Zagorovih naslovnica. :) |
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tinton
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Posted - 22/04/2014 : 16:05:48
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quote: Originally posted by nagor
Da se poslužim tvojim rječnikom tintone. Mikica - največi anti-talent u povijesti univerzuma... što se tiče Zagorovih naslovnica. :)
Mojim rječnikom? 
Opet pretjeruješ, nije on antitalent samo je lošije crtao. Siguran sam da je mogao bolje. |
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 22/04/2014 : 16:15:11
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Lik Zagora je crtao tako kako jeste i ne vjerujem da je mogao bolje. Već druga priča je to što on na svojim naslovnicama nije prikazao apsolutno ništa čega bi se kasnije mogao sjećati prosječni čitatelj jer su dosadne i monotone do bola. Kada vidim neku Ferrijevu dobro osmišljenu naslovnicu ona mi dugo vremena ostaje u memoriji a kod Mikice je upravo suprotno. |
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velka031
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Posted - 22/04/2014 : 19:09:18
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quote: Originally posted by tinton
quote: Originally posted by nagor
Da se poslužim tvojim rječnikom tintone. Mikica - največi anti-talent u povijesti univerzuma... što se tiče Zagorovih naslovnica. :)
Mojim rječnikom? 
Opet pretjeruješ, nije on antitalent samo je lošije crtao. Siguran sam da je mogao bolje.
To da je mogao bolje, slaba je isprika... Zapravo nikakva. Za ove naslovnice ne postoje adekvatni opisi... Jad i cemer. |
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tinton
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Posted - 22/04/2014 : 19:15:48
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quote: Originally posted by velka031
quote: Originally posted by tinton
quote: Originally posted by nagor
Da se poslužim tvojim rječnikom tintone. Mikica - največi anti-talent u povijesti univerzuma... što se tiče Zagorovih naslovnica. :)
Mojim rječnikom? 
Opet pretjeruješ, nije on antitalent samo je lošije crtao. Siguran sam da je mogao bolje.
To da je mogao bolje, slaba je isprika... Zapravo nikakva. Za ove naslovnice ne postoje adekvatni opisi... Jad i cemer.
Nije isprika, ja govorim isključivo o (anti)talentu. |
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mogorovic
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Posted - 22/04/2014 : 21:58:51
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Miodrag Ivanović Mikica je bio, ustvari, najmlađi član ekipe novosadske škole stripa, koja je sudjelovala u stvaranju licencirane hiperprodukcije "Dnevnikovog" Velikog Bleka i "Marketprintovog" Tarzana. On je naglo stasao i razvijao se crtački, guran od starijih kolega (koji su stariji od njega bili tek 10-ak godina, oni na početku tridesetih, a on dvadesetih). Ranu razvojnu fazu mu je obilježio Veliki Blek, u kojem nije dosegao veću razinu izvedbe(donja granica prosjeka), ali je u Tarzanu pokazao talent. Osobito je snažan u ilustracijama, koje mu nisu ograničene terminom izrade, koje radi studiozno, kao ona poznata okomita, sa svim Bonellijevim i Essegesse junacima, koje na vrhu litice drži Zagor, a koju u uredu ima i Burratini. Točno je, da su mu kao mlađem članu davali crtati domaće naslovnice, iz bizarnog razloga, što su u redakciji "Dnevnika" smatrali da je kvaliteta naslovnice nebitna, jer "navodno", nitko na nju previše ne obraća pažnju(?), odnosno, da je bitno da je prikazana neka akcija i upečatljiv naslov, jer "to prodaje strip". Ove tvrdnje pokrepljuju izjave Branislava Kerca i samoga Mikice (na jednom You tube kratkom filmu), kojem su doslovce davali praviti nesuvisle naslovnice od jutra, do podneva! To nikako ne opravdava nekvalitetu tih naslovnica, jer one su očajne, i to neporecivo. No, istine radi, bitno je poznavati i kontekst u kojima su nastajale: dakle, na brzinu, bez smisla i, često puta, veze sa sadržajem epizode, od strane najmlađeg (potencijalno najslabijeg i najposlušnijeg) crtača, d se oni "glavni" ne zamaraju tim "glupim naslovnicama". |
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 22/04/2014 : 22:30:02
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Samo mi nije jasno od kuda ovima iz Dnevnika ideja za crtanjem drugih naslovnica kada su postojale originalne Ferrijeve... nisu valjda pomislili da domaći 'majstor' to može bolje napraviti ... ili možda originalne nisu sadržavale dovoljno akcije za njih. U svakom slučaju, sva sreća da danas nema izdavača koji razmišljaju na takav način. |
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pcoro
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Posted - 22/04/2014 : 23:22:26
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Ove novije naslovnice su crtali jer bi neku epizodu za koju su u Italiji bile 2 naslovnice oni objavili u 3 epizode. Većina tih epizoda je išla na oko 230 stranica, pa bi onaj zadnji strip u kojem je samo 30, 40 stranica neke epizode ukrasio Mikica. U talijanskom izdanju bi na tom mjestu bila naslovnica iduće epizode. |
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King Warrior
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Posted - 22/04/2014 : 23:26:49
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quote: Originally posted by DODSFERD
Samo mi nije jasno od kuda ovima iz Dnevnika ideja za crtanjem drugih naslovnica kada su postojale originalne Ferrijeve... nisu valjda pomislili da domaći 'majstor' to može bolje napraviti ... ili možda originalne nisu sadržavale dovoljno akcije za njih.
Dnevnik je objavljivao cjelovite stripove, tj. ako se druga sveska zavrsi na stranici 64, popunjavali su prostor sa nekim tamo lijevim stripom. Ta neregularnost u italjanskim izdanjima, price pocinju na pola sveske i zavrsavaju na nekom drugom broju stranice u drugoj svesci, dovodila je do toga da je po Dnevnikovoj koncepciji nedostajala cesto jedna naslovnica vezana za doticnu epizodu. Iz tog razloga su uposljavali domace crtace da sklepaju nesto. Zasto su u nekim slucajevima, kao na primjeru Divovi dobra i zla epizode, izbacili dvije originalne naslovnice koje su vezane za pricu, a ubacili Mikicinu na mjesto sveske Invazija Akronijana, to samo oni znaju. Da ne pricam o tome da je ta Mikicina naslovnica vec bila upotrebljena za epizodu Tajna mlina. |
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King Warrior
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King Warrior
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Posted - 22/04/2014 : 23:39:22
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Ima tu dosta naslovnica gdje je precrtavano, docrtavano, kombinovano...evo jednog primjera, od prve dvije originalne naslovnice napravili su trecu:
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acestroke
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Posted - 23/04/2014 : 01:47:37
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quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
quote: Originally posted by acestroke
I ja se pitam zasto se ova slika odozgo upotrijebila za recenziju, umjesto ona Maxi naslovnica...
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Nismo nasli sliku u dobroj rezoluciji, pomalo hebe nezgodna Zagijeva poza i tekst koji sasjeca sliku sa lijeve strane. Tako da sam odabrao neutralnu sliku. Bolje i to nego losnjikavu mutnu sliku maxi izdanja.
Imam ti ja ovu Zagor Maxi "Covjek na nisanu" naslovnicu u dobroj rezoluciji, stavise mogu je i ocistit pa da izgleda jos bolje, ako hoces da je stavis na recenziju. Javi mi. |
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ike666
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Posted - 23/04/2014 : 09:08:58
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Čuo sam i ja da je Mikica inače simpatičan lik, i da sada crta navodno bolje, ali realno naslovnice o kojima se ovdje priča su mu zadnje smeće, dno dna. |
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velka031
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Posted - 23/04/2014 : 12:43:43
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quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
quote: Originally posted by DODSFERD
Samo mi nije jasno od kuda ovima iz Dnevnika ideja za crtanjem drugih naslovnica kada su postojale originalne Ferrijeve... nisu valjda pomislili da domaći 'majstor' to može bolje napraviti ... ili možda originalne nisu sadržavale dovoljno akcije za njih.
Dnevnik je objavljivao cjelovite stripove, tj. ako se druga sveska zavrsi na stranici 64, popunjavali su prostor sa nekim tamo lijevim stripom. Ta neregularnost u italjanskim izdanjima, price pocinju na pola sveske i zavrsavaju na nekom drugom broju stranice u drugoj svesci, dovodila je do toga da je po Dnevnikovoj koncepciji nedostajala cesto jedna naslovnica vezana za doticnu epizodu. Iz tog razloga su uposljavali domace crtace da sklepaju nesto. Zasto su u nekim slucajevima, kao na primjeru Divovi dobra i zla epizode, izbacili dvije originalne naslovnice koje su vezane za pricu, a ubacili Mikicinu na mjesto sveske Invazija Akronijana, to samo oni znaju. Da ne pricam o tome da je ta Mikicina naslovnica vec bila upotrebljena za epizodu Tajna mlina.
I baš su iz "Divova" izbacili dvije najbolje naslovnice... |
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sergej773
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Posted - 23/04/2014 : 13:02:42
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quote: Originally posted by ike666
Čuo sam i ja da je Mikica inače simpatičan lik, i da sada crta navodno bolje, ali realno naslovnice o kojima se ovdje priča su mu zadnje smeće, dno dna.
Mikica je ljudina, zivi u Srpskom Mileticu. |
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ken2
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Posted - 23/04/2014 : 13:21:49
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quote: Originally posted by DODSFERD
Samo mi nije jasno od kuda ovima iz Dnevnika ideja za crtanjem drugih naslovnica kada su postojale originalne Ferrijeve... nisu valjda pomislili da domaći 'majstor' to može bolje napraviti ... ili možda originalne nisu sadržavale dovoljno akcije za njih. U svakom slučaju, sva sreća da danas nema izdavača koji razmišljaju na takav način.
tada je bilo zaposlenih ko u priči, i izmišljali su se poslovi, da se opravda plaća kako inače objasnisti skidanje mister noovog znaka s rukava, i na naslovnicama i u stripu - pa treba to napraviti, a stripovi izlaze dvaput tjedno - ludilo |
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