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mogorovic
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Posted - 05/04/2017 : 14:55:58
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quote: Originally posted by frano
Nema logike da su zivotinje dane nama kao hrana. Cim ih moras na silu ubiti, radi se o ubojstvu i glupo je nakon toga ocekivati mir i blagostanje. To je u Markovom stripu lijepo opisano ko licemjerje. A opet, zbog toga zakljuciti da Isus i Bog ne postoje, isto nema smisla.
Onako usput. Ubijaš i biljke, kojima se hraniš, a živa su stvorenja. Samo, sirotice, ne mogu bježati, ne glasaju se umilno kada ih miluješ, i ne ispuštaju jezive krikove kada ih čupaš iz korijena ili siječeš srpom... Samo da bi papao. Napunio trbuščić, ili kako god se kome sviđa... Pa sada odgonetajte da li su nam i biljke dane kao hrana. A, ima mnogo ljudi koji ih vole, sade, presađuju, bore se za svaku njihovu stabljiku, plaču kada im uvenu, jednako kao i netko za bolesnim psićem ili uginulom vrtnom kornjačom.  |
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frano
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Croatia
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Posted - 05/04/2017 : 15:43:16
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Ispravno. I biljke su ziva bica. Svako jede nekoga da bi prezivio. No, naša tijela se razvijaju i rastu zahvaljujući žitaricama. A one rastu zahvaljujući kiši. I sad, ako mogu zdravo živjeti zahvaljujući žitaricama, povrću i voću, a to su plodovi ocigledno namjenjeni za prehranu, zašto onda da ubijam zivotinje? |
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Poli
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Posted - 05/04/2017 : 16:39:54
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quote: Originally posted by mogorovic
Onako usput. Ubijaš i biljke, kojima se hraniš, a živa su stvorenja. Samo, sirotice, ne mogu bježati, ne glasaju se umilno kada ih miluješ, i ne ispuštaju jezive krikove kada ih čupaš iz korijena ili siječeš srpom... Samo da bi papao. Napunio trbuščić, ili kako god se kome sviđa...
Pa eto, budi ti prvi koji ces se i njih odreci (mada btw, ne bi bio ni prvi ni posljednji ali nije to ovdje bitno) među nama. Budi nam svetal uzor koji ce nam blistati u svetlu buducnost. 
Normalno da je sve oko nas zivo, i sve ima energiju, ali jablana nece umrijeti ako joj dripnes 2-3 jabuke, jeli? A i salata ce nova da zraste. Ajd pokusaj to sa domacom svinjom. 
A mogli bismo i o razini svijesti u ljudska bica, u zivotinje, u bilje ... i u kamen. Ali radije nemojmo , jos ce se neki naucnik onesvijestiti. Ili HC vjernik.
P.S. A i to sto je Frano gore napisao, nitko nece umrijeti da danas prestane jesti meso. Nitko! Nemesne ishrane ima dovoljno na ovom svijetu za sve nas, ali ne i za "industrijsko-pitane-zivotinje-za-zakol" namijenjene ljudima. Odnosno, tesko. Zato se i krce (pra)sume i sve vise zagađuju, između ostalog. Za sada je sve samo u nepcima ... i fix idejama da se meso mora jesti ili ces umrijeti u tren oka. 
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xilrion
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mogorovic
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Posted - 05/04/2017 : 22:27:08
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E, sad ste ga baš usrali. Sa religijskih pitanja, skrenuli ste u svoje osobne afinitete, vegetarijanstvo, veganstvo i slično... A, meni sve jedno. Kao svežder sve jedem. Uživam svakodnevno u mesu, ribi, povrću, voću, žitaricama, kolačima i čemu sve ne. I nemam nikakvih problema sa savješću, a što je najvažnije, niti sa zdravljem i probavom. Sve u savršenom redu. A, sada, vratite se stripu, ili napustite topic! |
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frano
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Croatia
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 01:40:08
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Razgovor je usko vezan uz strip. I glede vegeterijanstva i glede religijskih tema. Pratimo mladu djevojku kojoj je odbojno licemjerje vezano uz blagdane mira i rođenja Isusova. Neshvatljiva okolini, spremna je rađe vjerovati u aliene nego u Isusa, a kamoli Boga. Bolje ovako? |
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frano
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 01:52:52
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Glavni lik, ateistica Željka, ima više savjesti nego sudionici ovog foruma. No, strip nudi samo jednu opciju - nema Boga - alieni su moja ekipa. I to je u redu. No, valja onda sagledati i druge opcije.
Ne vjeruješ u izmišljotinu od Boga, alieni su tvoja ekipa. Vjeruješ u Boga, alieni su američka izmišljotina. Ne vjeruješ ni u šta dok ti se ne dokaže. I meni najdraža opcija, Dopuštaš postojanje i jednih i drugih.
Ima li još koa opcija?
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frano
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Croatia
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frano
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dupli
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Croatia
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 09:31:21
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quote: Originally posted by frano
Glavni lik, ateistica Željka, ima više savjesti nego sudionici ovog foruma. No, strip nudi samo jednu opciju - nema Boga - alieni su moja ekipa. I to je u redu. No, valja onda sagledati i druge opcije.
Ne vjeruješ u izmišljotinu od Boga, alieni su tvoja ekipa. Vjeruješ u Boga, alieni su američka izmišljotina. Ne vjeruješ ni u šta dok ti se ne dokaže. I meni najdraža opcija, Dopuštaš postojanje i jednih i drugih.
Ima li još koa opcija?
Ima ih još mnogo. Na primjer, ova:
Dopuštaš postojanje internetskih trolova ali ih ignoriraš.
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frano
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Croatia
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 10:17:18
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Dupli,brate, pusti te blesave izraze tipa trolanje. Pa smijem se valjda ukljuciti u razgovor ako mi je zanimljiv, a da ne budem trol (stacgod to znacilo). Ili bolje da se ispricamo na Cršu. Ko ljudi. |
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Tonto
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 10:18:22
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CV je jučer ostavio jedan post u svom stilu. Ja kupio kokica, posalo dijete bivšoj, uzeo godišnji i... CV pobrisao post, ćorak.:P |
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frano
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frano
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 13:22:01
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Nađoh definiciju trolanja: "U internetskom nazivlju, izraz trol označava osobu koja dolazi na internetske zajednice kao što su internetski forum, soba za razgovor (chat room),[1][2] tematske grupe (newsgrupe),[3] blogovi s jedinim ciljem da na njih šalje podjarujuće,[4] podrugljive, grube, uvredljive poruke ili poruke koje nisu tema da bi namjerno dosađivala ostalim sudionicima, stvarala zavade, odnosno remetila tijek rasprave.
Definicija prema Collins-ovom riječniku [5] , u internetskom nazivlju pod izrazom trol označava osobu koja namjerno piše provokativne komentare u internetskoj raspravi." |
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frano
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Croatia
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 13:25:20
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Ja bih prije rekao da se ta fraza koristi kad nemaš neki pametniji odgovor ili kad nekoga s visoka želiš poklopiti. Nit svjestan nisi da trol tada postaješ, ti. |
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andjusticeforall
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andjusticeforall
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undeadbilly
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andjusticeforall
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xilrion
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andjusticeforall
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xilrion
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andjusticeforall
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Posted - 07/04/2017 : 00:54:35
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quote: Originally posted by xilrion
Pa to ne vrijedi za antikrista. Ne? Antikrist = vrag. A vrag je dio isusovog univerzuma.
Dakle nevjernici se ne bi smjeli koristiti popularnom religijom iz razloga što samo korištenje iste u npr. pop kulturi sugerira da nisu dovoljno nevjerni?
Es to ćeo reć?
Da odjebu?
Onda napiši, jebote, odjebite, šta se tu ima mjerit čiji je duži (iako znamo, he he). |
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frano
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andjusticeforall
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