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DOMI
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 20:49:39
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Znam da ovo nije topic za to, ali bit ću kratak: zna li tko kolika su autorska prava za izdavanje AF (otprilike), tj. plaća li se talijanima % od prodane naklade ili se "otkupljuju" table stripova po nekoj fiksnoj cijeni ili je u igri kombinacija jednog i drugog?
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• 54 god.Alan Forda u HR • Od 1970.-2017.izdana su 1063 broja (ukljucujuci Klasik, Super KL, Zlatni KL) • • Od 2022.Alan Ford u originalnim tablama formata 17x24 cm u novom kolekcionarskom TOP izdanju • |
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risbozg
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Croatia
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 21:07:56
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stvar dogovora i pregovora |
10.08.2003..''Kada nepravda postane zakon, otpor je tvoja dužnost.". AJMOOOOOOOO " CREME DE LA CREME HRVATSKE LIGE " DINAMOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
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Jasko
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Nicaragua
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 21:23:57
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Nije to pitanje jezika, nego načina prenosa. Nije Alan Ford 58. broj, 33. strana, 1. tabla, drugi oblačić. To su trivijalne stvari |
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lwood
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Colombia
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Jasko
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solar
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 23:51:41
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#525 - Glasujte za Alana
Prilično dobra epizoda, razlog je naravno taj što se pojavljuju skoro svi članovi grupe TNT. Broj Jedan opet muti, laže, vuče konce iz sjene; tu je Grunf, Bob, Šef, Jeremija a čak je i radnja smislena i dosta aktualna jer su Alana nagovorili da se kandidira za guvernera Kalifornije ali samo da bi njegov protukandidat odvjetnik Greb imao od koga izgubiti. Sporedni likovi su prilično smiješni, bilo je par odličnih štoseva koji su me nasmijali. Bila bi to skoro perfektna novija epizoda, samo da je nekako bilo izbaciti Minuette iz cijele priče. Ona je tako antipatična, naporna, sve zna, ima kretenske magijske sposobnosti i vodi Alana okolo kao malo dijete... e moj Bunkeru. |
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ivanl
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Croatia
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Posted - 27/01/2018 : 00:19:05
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quote: Originally posted by Jasko
Nije to pitanje jezika, nego načina prenosa. Nije Alan Ford 58. broj, 33. strana, 1. tabla, drugi oblačić. To su trivijalne stvari
Neznam prijo, koliko si ti procitao Alan Forda. Opsirno je to gradivo... i sve he bitno. Nista nije trivijalno. |
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wolf
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Posted - 27/01/2018 : 00:27:22
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Koliko god to neke žuljalo Brixy je prevodio na hrvatski. Nikakav to nije 'kulturni prostor jugosfere', bez obzira na posudbe pojedinih izreka ili naslova pjesama. Tako onda možemo reći da nema govora o tome da je npr. Asterix bio prevođen na jezik koji se danas naziva srpskim.
Dokle ovakve rasprave? |
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Jasko
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Nicaragua
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ivanl
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Croatia
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Jasko
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Posted - 27/01/2018 : 11:28:37
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quote: Originally posted by ivanl
quote: Originally posted by Jasko
Kakve to veze ima s trt mrt život ili smrt i Lazom Kostićem u stripu?
Izvlacis iz konteksta. I pravis se "Tosa". Pravo ti bilo sto ne "razumijes". Razumiju pravi poznavatelji Alan Forda. I naravno, trt, mrt, smrt isto. P.s.to sam ti vec obrazlozio.
Pobjeći ili poginuti je ekvivalentno biti ili ne biti što je ekvivalentno sa trt mrt, život ili smrt. Trt mrt smrt bi značilo samo poginuti ili ne biti.
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karven
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Serbia
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Posted - 27/01/2018 : 11:48:38
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Čiji je veći, jaskov ili ivanlov... staz u alanu fordu, naravno. Pitanje je sad. |
All is one in Darkseid. This mighty body is my church. When I command your surrender, I speak with three billion voices. When I make a fist to crush your resistance. It is with three billion hands. |
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Jasko
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ivanl
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Croatia
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Posted - 27/01/2018 : 11:55:17
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quote: Originally posted by Jasko
quote: Originally posted by ivanl
quote: Originally posted by Jasko
Kakve to veze ima s trt mrt život ili smrt i Lazom Kostićem u stripu?
Izvlacis iz konteksta. I pravis se "Tosa". Pravo ti bilo sto ne "razumijes". Razumiju pravi poznavatelji Alan Forda. I naravno, trt, mrt, smrt isto. P.s.to sam ti vec obrazlozio.
Pobjeći ili poginuti je ekvivalentno biti ili ne biti što je ekvivalentno sa trt mrt, život ili smrt. Trt mrt smrt bi značilo samo poginuti ili ne biti.
Ma vidi, nije uopce potrebno filozofirati oko ove parole. Meni je bitno da se ona pojavila u ovom obliku u Superstrip biblioteci, i kao takva je autenticna. T.j. pojavula se i poslije u Strip agentovoj knjizici. To bi bilo to. Ne vidim sto je tu nerazumljivo? |
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Jasko
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ivanl
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Croatia
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Posted - 27/01/2018 : 18:23:05
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Meni to uopce nije greska. Iako necemo nikad saznati za nacine i razloge po kojima je pokojni Nenad Brixy izvodio svoje prijevode, to mi se i ne cini bitnim. Mi ih prihvacamo kao takve, kroz generacije. Britke, saljive i naprosto sjajne. Oni su postali i ostali klasik do danas. Nema tu greske. |
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mogorovic
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Posted - 27/01/2018 : 22:39:40
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quote: Originally posted by Jasko
Ništa nije, ja i ne pišem da jeste. Samo je greška
Ma, kakva greška!? Brixi nije "griješio" u prijevodima i interpretacijama. Sve što je napisao, napisao je jer je tako htio! Briga njega za alternativom: život ili smrt! On je htio napisati na Grunfovoj majici: Trt, mrt, smrt! I ništa drugo! Kakva, zaboga greška!? To što se to nekome ne sviđa, nije Brixijev problem, nego onog koji napisanim nije zadovoljan... |
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Jasko
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Posted - 27/01/2018 : 22:58:03
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A šta znači trt mrt smrt, pošto ste ubeđeni da je to ispravno?
Koliko se često "trt mrt" koristi u svakodnevnom govoru na hrvatskom?
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iggyk23
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ivanl
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Croatia
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Posted - 27/01/2018 : 23:22:02
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Ne znam sto si se toga uhvatio, a na puno vaznije stvari ne dajes odgovore... Ali evo da ti odgovorim; trt mrt smrt, je zajebancija, sala, sega, baza, fazon, geg, stos... i samo kao takvu parolu, jedino i mozemo gledati. Jedino je to bitno, ne trazi greske takve vrste, nema ih... A evo, da ti i to kazem: ja koristim cesto u svakodnevnom zivotu. Kao i jos masu "baza" iz Alan Forda. Kao i, ne znam, na primjer; sala iz Balkanskog spijuna, kojeg znam napamet... |
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Jasko
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mogorovic
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Posted - 27/01/2018 : 23:25:55
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A, koliko se često, u hrvatskom jeziku, govori: Hopa - cupa, nas dva skupa!? Ili je i tu Brixi krivo interpretirao Lazu Kostića? |
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Vlaadisha
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Posted - 27/01/2018 : 23:27:52
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quote: Originally posted by mogorovic
Točno! A, to je zbog toga što povezuje čuveni parodični prijevod srpskog pjesnika Laze Kostića, Hamletove rečenice: "Biti ili ne biti, pitanje je sad!?"
"parodicni" pa jos "cuveni"  pa nije tako preveo "to be, or not to be" nego „il' bit' il' ne bit'" |
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Jasko
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Posted - 27/01/2018 : 23:30:31
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quote: Originally posted by mogorovic
A, koliko se često, u hrvatskom jeziku, govori: Hopa - cupa, nas dva skupa!? Ili je i tu Brixi krivo interpretirao Lazu Kostića?
A kakve veze ima hopa cupa s ovim? Ovde ne postoji logički završetak, nema smisla (naročito u kontekstu izrečenog u oblačićima). |
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mogorovic
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Posted - 27/01/2018 : 23:32:04
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quote: Originally posted by Vlaadisha
quote: Originally posted by mogorovic
Točno! A, to je zbog toga što povezuje čuveni parodični prijevod srpskog pjesnika Laze Kostića, Hamletove rečenice: "Biti ili ne biti, pitanje je sad!?"
"parodicni" pa jos "cuveni"  pa nije tako preveo "to be, or not to be" nego „il bit ili ne bit"
He, he... Obzirom da, očigledno, nemaš pojma o kojem prijevodu Laze Kostića govorimo, budi tiho i sa strane, prati temu, možda nešto i naučiš! |
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