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nikotin
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zlatan bihac
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 15/09/2018 : 12:45:28
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quote: Originally posted by Kontrast 2
Moguće da je Libelus koristio Tuto verziju (sa ispravljenim greškama), dok je SD koristila prvobitne skenove.
fazon je u tome što je SD extra ustvari preslika tutto verzije...tutto verzija je bila ta koja je ispravljala redovnu seriju iz 60-ih i još neke njene reprinte...u ovdje je sve objašnjeno...
http://www.stripovi.com/magazin/tuttozagor-requiem-za-jednu-seriju-reprinta/19/
samo što ni tutto nije baš neke greške ispravio..pravi primjer za to je ona legendarna greška gdje zagor ima na sebi majicu sa supermikeovim znakom M, i to u jednoj vinjeti, dok u slijedećoj je već tu orao...to je tek ispravljeno u verziji zagor kolor od republike, a to je ovo šta libelus sada izdaje..pa otud i ova popravka sa kosom od diging bila... |
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ReemCP
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Croatia
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Posted - 16/09/2018 : 14:28:58
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quote: Originally posted by zlatan bihac
quote: Originally posted by Kontrast 2
Moguće da je Libelus koristio Tuto verziju (sa ispravljenim greškama), dok je SD koristila prvobitne skenove.
fazon je u tome što je SD extra ustvari preslika tutto verzije...tutto verzija je bila ta koja je ispravljala redovnu seriju iz 60-ih i još neke njene reprinte...u ovdje je sve objašnjeno...
http://www.stripovi.com/magazin/tuttozagor-requiem-za-jednu-seriju-reprinta/19/
samo što ni tutto nije baš neke greške ispravio..pravi primjer za to je ona legendarna greška gdje zagor ima na sebi majicu sa supermikeovim znakom M, i to u jednoj vinjeti, dok u slijedećoj je već tu orao...to je tek ispravljeno u verziji zagor kolor od republike, a to je ovo šta libelus sada izdaje..pa otud i ova popravka sa kosom od diging bila...
Evo, prijatelj mi je još ukazao na neke scene u istoj priči, čak 3 sličice zaredom je ćelav, dok je u LL-u to drugačije.

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anto
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Serbia
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Posted - 16/09/2018 : 17:29:26
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Marolla&Bisi:Zagor-Sablasti za "Diging" Billa (Ludens,Zagor kolor 6)
Pitka pričica,lepo nacrtana te obojena.Sasvim dobro štivo za razbibrigu (meni je recimo ugodno prekratio put na strip festival u Kragujevcu). u Bangoru,malenom selu u državi Mejn (u tekstu piše maleno selo (??),a sa slike ni izbliza nije maleno),Zagor izvlači iz nevolje Čika i Bila,ali će se uplesti u misteriozna ubistva,u čijoj pozadini je porodična tragediji porodice Vir,koji su se udavili u istoimenom jezeru.Za to jezero su vezane i jezive priče sa duhovima,ali i legenda o blagu.Sa našim junacima sukobiće se prsata i zgodna gospođica Koperpot i njeni pomoćnici.Lako se naslućuje razrešenje priče,ali ne smeta toliko. 3/5 |
Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)! |
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anto
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Serbia
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Posted - 16/09/2018 : 18:09:11
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Testi&Barison:Zagor-Stvorenja iz tame (Ludens,Zagor specijal 38)
Za ovog Zagora sam čuo sve najgore,tako da sam psihički bio pripremljen za težak krš,međutim,ovo i nije toliko loše. Skroz netipičan Zagoreli,i to mi je odmahprvi plus.Drugi plus u specijalcu mi je Barison.Ne mislim da je tip nekakav sjajan crtač,ali stil mu savršeno odgovara atmosferi ove epizode.A kad se već dotičem crteža,uglavnom je dobar (pa i vrlo dobar,na momente i odličan);ali taj kvalitet nije stalan;u nekim kadrovima je loćikav,kao da je samo hteo da otalja posao u tim trenucima.malo vuče na Roija. Banditi pljačkaju banku,beže u šumu,a za vratom su im Zagor i Čiko - ali u šumi su jebena šumska stvorenja,fearsome critters,od kojih je najjebeniji hidebehind.Tu su i nekakvi istraživači koji traže rudu boksita u Darkvudu,a nameračili su se na brdo koje je za Šonije sveto (zovu ga Kuča snova).Pored svih,imamo i drvoseče kojima su ove šume drugi dom.I tu onda nastaje pravi pičvajz. Kao što rekoh nesvakidašnji Zagor,sa jakim horor elementima;ne bih ga nazvao dobrim,ali ni lošim. 2.5/5 |
Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)! |
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anto
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Serbia
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Posted - 16/09/2018 : 18:32:47
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Zamberletti&Torricelli:Zagor-Tajna druida (Ludens,Zagor maxi 32)
Nije sad da sam se namučio čitajući ovaj maksi,ali nisam ni zadovoljan. Fantazi/horor/avanturustička priča koja ima za pozadinu čuveni događaj sa zveri iz sela Ževodan,koji se zbio u Francuskoj u 18.veku. Tajanstvena zver,druidi,zli und genijalni bizmismeni koji sarađuju sa budućim fašistima...i Toričeli koji na prvih osamdsetak stranica crta jednim stilom,na sledećih sto drugim, i u ostatku stripa trećim - dobar ludak (ili je našao neke crnce da mu za siću pomažu?) 2/5 |
Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)! |
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Giuda Ballerino
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Japan
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Posted - 16/09/2018 : 23:25:31
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ovaj novi zagor I vigilantes od ona dva nesretnika koji pisu i crtaju je necitljiv, uzas do srzi |
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Giuda Ballerino
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Japan
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Posted - 16/09/2018 : 23:36:08
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dok epizoda prije te Marcus/Thunderman team up ocijenjujem sa 3/10. I vigilantes 1/10 jos me boli glava od mucenja. koje smece je ovaj zagor postao. bas me zanima sta ce ekipa reci za koju godinu kad ovo dodje na red, a ja upozoravam. vc i ludens upravo ulaze u razdoblje u kojem je stanje iz broja u broj sve gore. |
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velka031
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Posted - 17/09/2018 : 13:34:32
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Imao sam prilike pročitati taj team up, mogu reći samo - teška katastrofa. Tko nije čitao slučajno prva pojavljjivanja Marcusa i Thundermana niti ne mora, ovdje je sve lijepo i detaljno opisano :) Ne mogu vjerovati koliko tom Burattiniju nestaje ideja i kad već ideš u nešto ovog tipa, pa daj se malo potrudi, majku mu... Prva dva broja su gotovo cijela u prepričavanju povijesti, po meni, ionako stupidnih neprijatelja koje nije nikako trebalo "oživljavati"... A onda slijedi "nevjerojatan" zaplet. Mislim stvarno, ako se ovo nekome svidi, neka javi :) |
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Dexters
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Zoroasterixx
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Posted - 17/09/2018 : 16:42:21
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quote: Originally posted by velka031
Imao sam prilike pročitati taj team up, mogu reći samo - teška katastrofa. Tko nije čitao slučajno prva pojavljjivanja Marcusa i Thundermana niti ne mora, ovdje je sve lijepo i detaljno opisano :) Ne mogu vjerovati koliko tom Burattiniju nestaje ideja i kad već ideš u nešto ovog tipa, pa daj se malo potrudi, majku mu... Prva dva broja su gotovo cijela u prepričavanju povijesti, po meni, ionako stupidnih neprijatelja koje nije nikako trebalo "oživljavati"... A onda slijedi "nevjerojatan" zaplet. Mislim stvarno, ako se ovo nekome svidi, neka javi :)
Vidio sam na jednom talijanskom blogu, da je netko pohvalio Burattinija, da je uspio udahnuti život jednom od najgorih Zagorovih neprijatelja, Thundermanu, sa "twistom" u epizodi. |
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DODSFERD
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Zoroasterixx
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Posted - 17/09/2018 : 17:34:05
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quote: Originally posted by DODSFERD
Jedan od najboljih? Može biti samo jedan od najsmješnijih.
Jedan od najgorih, napisao sam :) |
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 17/09/2018 : 17:41:07
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Uh, nešto mi se čudno događa sa očima (pola dana na Suncu), a možda sam automatski nečije pohvale Burattiniju ukombinirao sa Zagorovim najboljim protivnicima. |
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Zoroasterixx
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Posted - 17/09/2018 : 17:45:07
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Pa rekao je nekako ovako: da je originalni Thunderman doduše jedan od najgorih Zagorovih protivnika, ali da mu je Burattini uspio udahnuti novi život u ovom povratku. Tako nešto. |
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 17/09/2018 : 17:52:55
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Možda mu je udahnuo novi život, samo što ne vjerujem kako je to dovoljno da ispadne nešto vrijedno pohvale, ako se uzme u obzir koliko je bilo loše prvo pojavljivanje. |
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Zoroasterixx
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Posted - 17/09/2018 : 17:55:35
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quote: Originally posted by DODSFERD
Možda mu je udahnuo novi život, samo što ne vjerujem kako je to dovoljno da ispadne nešto vrijedno pohvale, ako se uzme u obzir koliko je bilo loše prvo pojavljivanje.
Ona prva pojava je zezanje Ovdje je Burattini od njega praktički napravio supernegativca (ono što sam vidio su prva dva nastavka) Ima i na Burattinijevom blogu njegovo tumačenje epizode, ali bi to bio spoiler. |
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Džedson
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Posted - 17/09/2018 : 18:45:50
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quote: Originally posted by velka031
Imao sam prilike pročitati taj team up, mogu reći samo - teška katastrofa. Tko nije čitao slučajno prva pojavljjivanja Marcusa i Thundermana niti ne mora, ovdje je sve lijepo i detaljno opisano :) Ne mogu vjerovati koliko tom Burattiniju nestaje ideja i kad već ideš u nešto ovog tipa, pa daj se malo potrudi, majku mu... Prva dva broja su gotovo cijela u prepričavanju povijesti, po meni, ionako stupidnih neprijatelja koje nije nikako trebalo "oživljavati"... A onda slijedi "nevjerojatan" zaplet. Mislim stvarno, ako se ovo nekome svidi, neka javi :)
evo, prijavljujem se, ne pucaj nije da sam opal sa stolca od kvalitete ali ima dobrih stvari.
prva, crtež espositovih je odličan, dinamit, eksplozito osobito su thundermana i njegove munje razvalili.
drugo, prepričavanje je ipak većinom u prvom nastavku. u drugom kreće ozbiljno radnja i ima par čisto solidnih preokreta, da sad ne spojlam koji su.
treće, stupidni jesu bili u prvom pojavljivanju, ali ovdje mi ih je bilo lijepo vidjeti, prvenstveno radi crteža. a i thundermanova priča uopće nije loša. |
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Džedson
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Posted - 17/09/2018 : 18:53:37
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i oko ovih ljetnih specijalaca kod mene bi bilo
kolorac - nepretenciozna posveta stephenu kingu. marolla je neupitan talent, po meni.
specko - vrlo dobar debi tog mladog testija. najbolji spec još od nulte godine darkwooda. primjerice, buretova buđenja daleko više parazitiraju na atmosferi barisonovog crteža. ovdje je scenarij puno solidniji.
maxi - neupitan antitalent zamberletti strikes again. najlošiji maxi ikad, izuzev prve priče iz donatellijevog maxija. a crtež ko da je radilo pet različitih ljudi. |
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King Warrior
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Korg
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Posted - 17/09/2018 : 20:46:46
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Od ovih novijih brojeva me ništa ne privlači, osim Buffinove zemlje i Vampira. Jasno je da Buretu ponestaje ideja i inspiracije i trebali bi nešto uraditi po tom pitanju. Po meni, najbolje da ubace malo svježeg mesa. Marollu, definitivno, više angažirati. |
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Zoroasterixx
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Posted - 18/09/2018 : 15:04:47
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Pitanje: ima li negdje ovdje neki topic koji se bavi cenzurom u Zagoru tamo u sedamdesetima i osamdesetima, uklanjanjem stranica, mijenjanjem teksta itd? |
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markotamara
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Posted - 18/09/2018 : 20:21:20
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Mislim da on prepricava iz razloga sto Talijani nemaju stalno reprinteve ka mi (klasik,extra,zlatni....)pa buduci da je serijal star 60godina mora prepricati citavu epizodu za ove najmlađe Talijančiće 😂😂😂😂 |
GALLIENO FERRI
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velka031
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Posted - 18/09/2018 : 21:54:51
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quote: Originally posted by markotamara
Mislim da on prepricava iz razloga sto Talijani nemaju stalno reprinteve ka mi (klasik,extra,zlatni....)pa buduci da je serijal star 60godina mora prepricati citavu epizodu za ove najmlađe Talijančiće 😂😂😂😂
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nagor
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Posted - 18/09/2018 : 22:02:48
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quote: Originally posted by markotamara
Mislim da on prepricava iz razloga sto Talijani nemaju stalno reprinteve ka mi (klasik,extra,zlatni....)pa buduci da je serijal star 60godina mora prepricati citavu epizodu za ove najmlađe Talijančiće 😂😂😂😂
Smajlići uopće nisu potrebni, jer si u biti dobro pojasnio zašto su "prepričavanja" kot Talijana potrebnija nego kod nas. ;)
A i Bure se stalno vraća starim likovima i događajima i takve stvari su onda odmah potrebnije. |
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