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solar
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ReemCP
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Croatia
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solar
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VALTER
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Croatia
6416 Posts
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Posted - 16/12/2018 : 08:37:04
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Prve četiri epizode (Zmajeva krv / Alkemičarska tajna / Nečisti / Mračna utvrda) zaokružuju priču o trgovini oružjem ('zapaljivim blatom') i mračnom planu šumskih duhova da, preko osobe koje su zaposjeli, dovedu do međusobnog istrebljenja ljudi i orka, a što će omogućiti da Priroda zavlada svijetom. Saznajemo dosta o geografiji i politici Erondara, kao i detalje iz Ianove prošlosti. 'Mračna utvrda' me podsjetila na 'Povratak Jedija' (isključenje 'shield-generatora', ovdje izvora nevidljivosti Suanina; a i odnos Imperator Palpatine - Darth Vader - Luke Skywalker je u jednom trenutku nalik na onaj Atree, Xare i Iana). Matteonijev crtež je lijep, možda ponekad malo sterilan, pa se slažem s onima koji tvrde da bi ovo bolje izgledalo u boji. Sve u svemu, neloše, ali bar zasad daleko od spektakla kakav se tendenciozno najavljivao unatrag mjesec-dva. Da izlazi na kioscima, pa makar u formatu Kena Parkera, kupovao bih. 7/10 |
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supermark
stripovi.com suradnik
    
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Croatia
29624 Posts
Member since 06/02/2007 |
Posted - 22/12/2018 : 18:14:01
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pročitao nulti broj i prvih 7 epizoda iako ne volim fantasy (nulti broj mi se zbog toga i najmanje svidio jer tih fantasy elemenata ima najviše) meni je ovo odlično boja u nultom broju je odlična (bacite pogled kako su boje na istoj stranici u istom tonu) i zaista je šteta što ovo izdanje nije kompletno u boji
znaju se prepoznati standardne Bonelli boljke (Ian gleda kako mu se prijatelj bori na smrt i odbija mu pomoći jer bi gubitak časti bio gori od smrti... bljuv!), ali nastavljam ovo kupovati
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VALTER
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Croatia
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supermark
stripovi.com suradnik
    
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VALTER
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Croatia
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Bosko
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Croatia
152 Posts
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vice
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7329 Posts
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SSM
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
986 Posts
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Posted - 23/12/2018 : 07:24:22
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Ja sam imao priliku procitati samo taj nulti broj i sjecam se da sam bio sokiran kolicinom kradja ili pozajmica iz knjiga epske fantastike, a koje inace veoma volim. Taj nulti broj zbog toga zasluzuje 0 od 10. Ono, imas priliku da osmislis nesto svoje, firma ti da novac i ti kopiras 100% tudja djela? Ovo je naravno ocjena samo tog nultog broja, postujem ako se kasnije situacija popravila |
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DiSkAcH
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Croatia
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Posted - 23/12/2018 : 08:17:57
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quote: Originally posted by solar

Enoch...činio mi se malo šutljiv/sramežljiv na Mafestu (draga zna talijanski) za razliku od ostatka ekipe koja je bila (npr. Walter ), ali mi je nacrtao lijepu i jendostavnu...hmmm, neku tetu iz Dragonera   To je bilo po njegovom izboru:

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-Hi Honey, did you miss me? -With every bullet so far... |
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VALTER
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Croatia
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Posted - 23/12/2018 : 09:24:08
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quote: Originally posted by supermark
Odlično, da I zbog boje u nultom broju, među ostalome
Moguće je da je odlično upravo zato što košta 195,00 kn (odnosno 230,00 kn za nulti broj), pa to stvara osjećaj zadovoljstva na način kako to kompenzacijska kupnja inače čini. Ljudi su od plemenskih zajednica do danas prikupljali predmete ne bi li promijenili svoj socijalni status u odnosu na druge ljude; sigurno je da imanje u vlasništvu ovih knjižica kod nekih može, uz svijest da ih si može priuštiti ograničen broj ljudi, proizvesti stanovito zadovoljstvo.
A što se samog sadržaja tiče, to je neloše, ali daleko od odličnog. Baš čitam 'Izvidničko okupljanje' i vidim da je čak i okršaj s planinskim trolom prepisan iz Hobita. Najupečatljiviji događaj iz prvih pet epizoda i nultog broja je kad Gmor krade i potom presađuje stablo oraha. |
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supermark
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Croatia
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Posted - 23/12/2018 : 11:33:04
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quote: Originally posted by SSM
Ja sam imao priliku procitati samo taj nulti broj i sjecam se da sam bio sokiran kolicinom kradja ili pozajmica iz knjiga epske fantastike, a koje inace veoma volim. Taj nulti broj zbog toga zasluzuje 0 od 10. Ono, imas priliku da osmislis nesto svoje, firma ti da novac i ti kopiras 100% tudja djela? Ovo je naravno ocjena samo tog nultog broja, postujem ako se kasnije situacija popravila
meni to kopiranje uopće ne smeta (eto i Hobit je neke svoje dijelove "posudio" od drugih) ali ako očekuješ nešto inovativno u sljedećim brojevima - nećeš se usrećiti |
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supermark
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Croatia
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Posted - 23/12/2018 : 11:35:21
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quote: Originally posted by VALTER
quote: Originally posted by supermark
Odlično, da I zbog boje u nultom broju, među ostalome
Moguće je da je odlično upravo zato što košta 195,00 kn (odnosno 230,00 kn za nulti broj), pa to stvara osjećaj zadovoljstva na način kako to kompenzacijska kupnja inače čini. Ljudi su od plemenskih zajednica do danas prikupljali predmete ne bi li promijenili svoj socijalni status u odnosu na druge ljude; sigurno je da imanje u vlasništvu ovih knjižica kod nekih može, uz svijest da ih si može priuštiti ograničen broj ljudi, proizvesti stanovito zadovoljstvo.
radije dam 150kn za nešto što mi je dobro, nego 18kn za nešto što mi je loše prije sam kupovao te silne Bonellije i trpao ih po ormarima polovicu ni ne čitajući, dok nisam shvatio da tih 10kom po 18kn čini isto tako 180kn |
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VALTER
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Croatia
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logo111
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Croatia
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supermark
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Croatia
29624 Posts
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Posted - 23/12/2018 : 12:51:00
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E pa tu griješiš, to je najmanje ključno Nije bitno zbog čega je odlično, nego samo to da je odlično, dok god su moji novci u pitanju |
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VALTER
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Croatia
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velka031
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VALTER
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Croatia
6416 Posts
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Posted - 23/12/2018 : 14:33:13
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Ne znam zašto misliš da ja to mislim. Činjenica je da je prošlo više od mjesec dana, a oduševljenja kakvo je vladalo u vrijeme izlaska nema. Očito su se Ivanl i ivanl-ovski likovi zadovoljili kupovinom i odlaganjem na policu, da se mogu diviti izdanju. |
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Dexters
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Posted - 23/12/2018 : 14:35:36
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@Valter, postoji nešto što se zove Post-purchase rationalization bias. Kada netko potroši znatan novac na neki proizvod, npr. strip, onda se pokreću mehanizmi koji moraju opravdati takvu odluku, i doživljaj stripa će za njih biti bolji od njegove stvarne vrijednosti. To je bias, sustavna pogreška koja uvijek naginje na jednu stranu, i ne može biti osnova za procjenu vrijednosti stripa, bez obzira koliko je velik uzorak (broj komentara). |
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Hercule Poirot
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VALTER
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