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john connor
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Posted - 23/09/2020 : 21:01:07
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Za hitman, y i ostalo si u pravu, jbg 5 je mnogo knjiga, ili fables npr...ali Sleeper ima dve knjige, e sad ako Zatamnjenje prodje lose, pitanje je isplativosti... |
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night
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Serbia
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Posted - 23/09/2020 : 21:01:07
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Uzeh danas u Alan Fordu i trećinu sam pročitao do kuće. Strip mi je u početku bio naporan, ali me je kasnije osvojio. Izdanje je fantastično urađeno, Marko svaka čast. |
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Markos
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Posted - 23/09/2020 : 22:34:40
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quote: Originally posted by john connor Ima li sansi makar za 24x17, daredevil i kriminal su mi tu makar ok...
Ne mozes uklopiti originalni 17 x 26 u 17 x 24. Kad table idu preko cijele stranice, nedostajalo bi ti "mesa" sa strane. Kod Kriminala i Daredevila je bilo dobro što su stranice uglavnom klasična rešetka s bijelim marginama, pa je to bilo moguće. |
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kasper
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Posted - 23/09/2020 : 22:47:37
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zanimljivo da ck ima format 16.5 x 23.5 kod best of marvela, ugurase ga nekako. e sad nisam se tu nesto bavio deformitetima, al bi bilo zanimljivo videti uporedne posledice ovog formata. |
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going going
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Posted - 23/09/2020 : 22:48:12
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quote: Originally posted by john connor
Da ljudi iz neobjasnjivog razloga ne vole Brubakera, kao ni Darwina Cooka.
quote: Originally posted by john connor
Za hitman, y i ostalo si u pravu, jbg 5 je mnogo knjiga, ili fables npr...ali Sleeper ima dve knjige, e sad ako Zatamnjenje prodje lose, pitanje je isplativosti...
Slazem se za obe stvari. Darvin Kuk je genijalan i prerano nas je napustio, njegov Parker je vrhusnki strip a upravo krecem sa citanjem Nove granice. Crtez i kolor su fantazija. Bas jedva cekam da kupim i vidim uzivo Zatamnjenje u tom novom formatu i da ga procitam, ali za to cu morati da sacekam oktobar. Nadam se da ce prodaja biti dobra, po odusevljenju na ovom topiku deluje tako, ali forum nije pravo merilo prodaje. |
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Peyo
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risbozg
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Posted - 23/09/2020 : 23:49:42
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Strip je fantastičan...sve je vrhunski pogotovo ta posebna atmosfera koja se proteže kroz cijelu priču..pročitan u dahu..10/10 a o samom pakiranju ne treba trošit riječi..prva liga kao i uvijek |
10.08.2003..''Kada nepravda postane zakon, otpor je tvoja dužnost.". AJMOOOOOOOO " CREME DE LA CREME HRVATSKE LIGE " DINAMOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
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Peyo
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Dr. Zistis
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Shaner
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Posted - 24/09/2020 : 06:56:02
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quote: Originally posted by Dr. Zistis
Jos samo Shaner da ne pokvari 
Pa već sam nahvalio izdanje! A što se samog stripa tiče, ne pratiš pozorno. Ovo je s druge teme, od prije četiri godine:
quote: Originally posted by Shaner
The Fade Out
Još jedna krimi/noir priča tandema Brubaker&Phillips, ovaj put smještena u glamurozni svijet Hollywooda 40-ih godina 20. stoljeća. Kriminalce i policajce ovdje mijenjaju slavni glumci, frustrirani režiseri, perverzni producenti, FBI agenti u lovu na komuniste i bezidejni scenaristi u potrazi za čistom savješću, žene naravno ostaju fatalne. The Fade Out vrlo uspješno dočarava zlatno doba Hollywooda kakvo svi poznajemo/očekujemo, no Brubaker nam ne pruža ništa novo i drugačije. Ipak, i klišejizirana priča može biti zabavna i zanimljiva, pogotovo kad je vizualno impresivna kao ova. Phillipsov crtež ovdje igra glavnu ulogu u stvaranju atmosfere, zajedno s neprocjenjivo važnim i odličnim kolorom Elizabeth Breitweiser, i pojedine table su stvarno melem za oči. Unatoč manjkavostima u pitanju je dobar serijal koji će vjerujem zadovoljiti sve ljubitelje tematike kao i one autorskog dvojca, a možda čak i ponekog tko to nije.
Ovih dana se uhvatim ponovnog čitanja u ovom savršenom izdanju pa vidimo kakvi će sad biti dojmovi. 
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Dr. Zistis
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Posted - 24/09/2020 : 07:08:28
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quote: Originally posted by Shaner
quote: Originally posted by Dr. Zistis
Jos samo Shaner da ne pokvari 
Pa već sam nahvalio izdanje! A što se samog stripa tiče, ne pratiš pozorno. Ovo je s druge teme, od prije četiri godine:
quote: Originally posted by Shaner
The Fade Out
Još jedna krimi/noir priča tandema Brubaker&Phillips, ovaj put smještena u glamurozni svijet Hollywooda 40-ih godina 20. stoljeća. Kriminalce i policajce ovdje mijenjaju slavni glumci, frustrirani režiseri, perverzni producenti, FBI agenti u lovu na komuniste i bezidejni scenaristi u potrazi za čistom savješću, žene naravno ostaju fatalne. The Fade Out vrlo uspješno dočarava zlatno doba Hollywooda kakvo svi poznajemo/očekujemo, no Brubaker nam ne pruža ništa novo i drugačije. Ipak, i klišejizirana priča može biti zabavna i zanimljiva, pogotovo kad je vizualno impresivna kao ova. Phillipsov crtež ovdje igra glavnu ulogu u stvaranju atmosfere, zajedno s neprocjenjivo važnim i odličnim kolorom Elizabeth Breitweiser, i pojedine table su stvarno melem za oči. Unatoč manjkavostima u pitanju je dobar serijal koji će vjerujem zadovoljiti sve ljubitelje tematike kao i one autorskog dvojca, a možda čak i ponekog tko to nije.
Ovih dana se uhvatim ponovnog čitanja u ovom savršenom izdanju pa vidimo kakvi će sad biti dojmovi. 
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DiSkAcH
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Posted - 24/09/2020 : 10:58:57
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
Tisak ovog formata košta 50% skuplje nego 16 x 24. A razlika u dimenzijama je jedva 15%. Da sam vam došao s Hitmenom ili YTLM ili sličnim stvarima u tom formatu i s cijenom 250 kuna, razapeli biste me. Ovdje to ima smisla jer je Zatamnjenje jedan jedini strip, sve je u jednoj knizi, pa ajde, čovjek će i dati taj novac. Ali ako imaš 5 knjiga koje moraš kupiti po toj cijeni da bi pročitao taj serijal, onda... Za Sleeper ću još vidjeti, zavisi kako prođe Zatamnjenje. Ljudi ovdje iz meni neobjašnjivog razloga ne vole baš Brubakera, a ovo su jako skupi projekti kojima onda namjerno spuštam maloprodajnu cijenu da bi bila koliko toliko normalna i sam sebi pravim medvjeđu uslugu.
Ma po meni ne treba sve biti velikog formata. Meni baš paše taj format koji si izabrao za amere koji idu u više knjiga. Nije samo stvar u cijeni, treba to sve negdje i smjestit, a negdje je crtaž relativno jednostavan i veći format mu uopće nebi pomogoa. Npr Sagi i Bajkama, oni su IMHO savršeni u formatu u kojem su izdani. |
-Hi Honey, did you miss me? -With every bullet so far... |
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Paka01
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Croatia
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Posted - 24/09/2020 : 11:35:39
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quote: Originally posted by Markos Ljudi ovdje iz meni neobjašnjivog razloga ne vole baš Brubakera
Jebiga, gledano iz stajališta kupca, Fibrin Kriminal baš i nije jeftin strip, možda je do toga stvar? Odnos cijene i broja stranica na onom formatu (koji meni osobno skroz odgovara i ne smeta mi što je malo smanjen u odnosu na original američki) možda odbija ljude od kupovine.
Mislim, jasno mi je da je moralo ići ovako pojedinačno jer koliko se sjećam, rekao si da nisi imao dopuštenje odraditi Kriminal u integralima ko šta Image radi? Šteta baš, ona Imageova Deluxe izdanja Kriminala izgledaju odlično. |
Would a new flood please finally come? A real rain and an assortment of plagues And when all is said and done, even the Devil won't care enough to spit in the mud
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Paka01
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Croatia
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Posted - 24/09/2020 : 11:36:47
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quote: Originally posted by DiSkAcH
quote: Originally posted by Markos
Tisak ovog formata košta 50% skuplje nego 16 x 24. A razlika u dimenzijama je jedva 15%. Da sam vam došao s Hitmenom ili YTLM ili sličnim stvarima u tom formatu i s cijenom 250 kuna, razapeli biste me. Ovdje to ima smisla jer je Zatamnjenje jedan jedini strip, sve je u jednoj knizi, pa ajde, čovjek će i dati taj novac. Ali ako imaš 5 knjiga koje moraš kupiti po toj cijeni da bi pročitao taj serijal, onda... Za Sleeper ću još vidjeti, zavisi kako prođe Zatamnjenje. Ljudi ovdje iz meni neobjašnjivog razloga ne vole baš Brubakera, a ovo su jako skupi projekti kojima onda namjerno spuštam maloprodajnu cijenu da bi bila koliko toliko normalna i sam sebi pravim medvjeđu uslugu.
Ma po meni ne treba sve biti velikog formata. Meni baš paše taj format koji si izabrao za amere koji idu u više knjiga. Nije samo stvar u cijeni, treba to sve negdje i smjestit, a negdje je crtaž relativno jednostavan i veći format mu uopće nebi pomogoa. Npr Sagi i Bajkama, oni su IMHO savršeni u formatu u kojem su izdani.
Ovo je i moje mišljenje. Osobno bi volija da i Batmani idu u tom manjem formatu. Kad samo zamislim di ću stavit cijeli Snyderov run na tom ogromnom formatu, dođe mi zaplakat  |
Would a new flood please finally come? A real rain and an assortment of plagues And when all is said and done, even the Devil won't care enough to spit in the mud
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going going
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Posted - 24/09/2020 : 15:22:47
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Meni je sto se tice domacih izdanja americkih stripova najbolji format koji je Darkvud koristio za Stvorenje iz Mocvare, Skalpirane, Panisera, Izletnika, Miriklmena itd. Mislim da je to isto kao americko deluxe izdanje odnosno 170 x 260 mm. Ali Fibrino izdanje Zatamnjenja je jos vece od toga, tako da, ponavljam se, jedva cekam da vidim uzivo to cudo. |
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Markos
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Posted - 24/09/2020 : 15:25:29
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quote: Originally posted by going going
Meni je sto se tice domacih izdanja americkih stripova najbolji format koji je Darkvud koristio za Stvorenje iz Mocvare, Skalpirane, Panisera, Izletnika, Miriklmena itd. Mislim da je to isto kao americko deluxe izdanje odnosno 170 x 260 mm. Ali Fibrino izdanje Zatamnjenja je jos vece od toga, tako da, ponavljam se, jedva cekam da vidim uzivo to cudo.
Ne, 17 x 26 je normalni američki format. Deluxe je nešto tipa 18 x 28 (napamet govorim, ali tu negdje) |
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Markos
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Posted - 24/09/2020 : 15:29:51
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quote: Originally posted by Paka01
quote: Originally posted by Markos Ljudi ovdje iz meni neobjašnjivog razloga ne vole baš Brubakera
Jebiga, gledano iz stajališta kupca, Fibrin Kriminal baš i nije jeftin strip, možda je do toga stvar? Odnos cijene i broja stranica na onom formatu (koji meni osobno skroz odgovara i ne smeta mi što je malo smanjen u odnosu na original američki) možda odbija ljude od kupovine.
Mislim, jasno mi je da je moralo ići ovako pojedinačno jer koliko se sjećam, rekao si da nisi imao dopuštenje odraditi Kriminal u integralima ko šta Image radi? Šteta baš, ona Imageova Deluxe izdanja Kriminala izgledaju odlično.
Onda mi nisu dali integral, em su me oderali ko malog majmuna za taj Kriminal. |
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kasper
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Posted - 24/09/2020 : 15:34:57
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to sto kriminal slabo ide, verovatno fali muskaraca na balkanu a ako sleeper mora da ide u manjem formatu, nek bude ovaj od kriminala. tu je ta neka psiholoska granica za dobre stripove |
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going going
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Posted - 24/09/2020 : 15:40:08
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
quote: Originally posted by Paka01
quote: Originally posted by Markos Ljudi ovdje iz meni neobjašnjivog razloga ne vole baš Brubakera
Jebiga, gledano iz stajališta kupca, Fibrin Kriminal baš i nije jeftin strip, možda je do toga stvar? Odnos cijene i broja stranica na onom formatu (koji meni osobno skroz odgovara i ne smeta mi što je malo smanjen u odnosu na original američki) možda odbija ljude od kupovine.
Mislim, jasno mi je da je moralo ići ovako pojedinačno jer koliko se sjećam, rekao si da nisi imao dopuštenje odraditi Kriminal u integralima ko šta Image radi? Šteta baš, ona Imageova Deluxe izdanja Kriminala izgledaju odlično.
Onda mi nisu dali integral, em su me oderali ko malog majmuna za taj Kriminal.
Šteta za integral sa glediŠta isplativosti za izdavača ali i za kupce, ali meni Kriminal baš ima neki šmek i šarm ovako u pojedinačnim knjigama kad se poređaju sa onim sjajnim dizajnom jedna do druge na polici, baš lepo izgleda.
Hvala za pojašnjenje za američke formate. |
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Peyo
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Posted - 24/09/2020 : 15:40:14
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quote: Originally posted by kasper
to sto kriminal slabo ide, verovatno fali muskaraca na balkanu a ako sleeper mora da ide u manjem formatu, nek bude ovaj od kriminala. tu je ta neka psiholoska granica za dobre stripove
Dosegnuo si nove vrhunce ! |
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Dr. Zistis
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Posted - 24/09/2020 : 15:45:19
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quote: Originally posted by Peyo
quote: Originally posted by kasper
to sto kriminal slabo ide, verovatno fali muskaraca na balkanu a ako sleeper mora da ide u manjem formatu, nek bude ovaj od kriminala. tu je ta neka psiholoska granica za dobre stripove
Dosegnuo si nove vrhunce !
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john connor
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Posted - 24/09/2020 : 16:36:45
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
quote: Originally posted by john connor Ima li sansi makar za 24x17, daredevil i kriminal su mi tu makar ok...
Ne mozes uklopiti originalni 17 x 26 u 17 x 24. Kad table idu preko cijele stranice, nedostajalo bi ti "mesa" sa strane. Kod Kriminala i Daredevila je bilo dobro što su stranice uglavnom klasična rešetka s bijelim marginama, pa je to bilo moguće.
Nisam to znao. Kriminal i Daredevil izgledaju sjajno. Da li se makar razmislja o Sleeperu u formatu Zatamnjenja? Meni bi to bilo sjajno u svakom pogledu...pogotovo sto mi je to Brubaker No 1... |
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jaki
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kasper
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john connor
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Posted - 24/09/2020 : 18:35:14
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quote: Originally posted by jaki
Možda Zatamnjenje povuče i prodaju Kriminala...
To bi bilo dobro. A mozda ce imati uticaja i na sleeperov format... |
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