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jogurt
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Posted - 24/01/2021 : 02:19:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jogurt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Svaka čast za Travelling riverside blues, stvarno fenomenalna pesma, i meni bi svakako bila u samom vrhu, a Achilles last stand je i meni omiljena :D

The rain song takođe izuzentno cenim

Svakako super lista, da je ubačena npr In the light bila bi još bolja ;D
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Posted - 24/01/2021 : 10:10:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tonto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Zanimljiva lista. Stvarno.

Mada i ja imam asova u rukavu (koji nisu toliko sprijeda i hvaljeni, npr. najvise mi se svidja That's the way), kao npr. Travelling Riverside Blues nije bas na best offima. :D




Sto je najbolje htio sam za zadnju umjesto Over the hills staviti Hey,Hey, What Can I Do pa se mislim ajde da netko ne kaze da vadim samo ove divlje pa nek bude jedna od tih eksponiranijih.

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Posted - 24/01/2021 : 10:58:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ne da mi se rezati, evo brzinski top 20, bez redoslijeda:

Babe I'm gonna leave you
Communication breakdown
Whole lotta love
What is and what should never be
Thank you
Heartbreaker
No quarter
RnR
Black dog
Stairway
Misty mountain hop
Going to California
What is and what should never be
Immigrant song
Trampled underfoot
The Rover
In the light
Nobody fault by mine
In the evening
All my love


Tonto preferira manje izlizane stvari, ali ja se ne odričem ni onih "izlizanih" samo zato jer su megapopularne. Ne može mi Immigrant song dosaditi ni zbog Shreka ni zbog Trenta Reznora :)

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Posted - 24/01/2021 : 11:07:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tonto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kažu inače da je Plant forsirao više ove akustične, a Page rifovske teže stvari. Po tome ja biram Plant klan.

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Poli
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Posted - 24/01/2021 : 14:36:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Meni bi bilo iznimno tesko sastaviti listu top 10, mozda ni top 20, jer bih se osjecao kao da se odricem vlastite djece. Ali ako bi isao po albumima... hmm, valjda trica. Ima taj neki posebni sarm, samocu (Snowdonie), smek stimungu, a i prvi njihov vinil je koji sam kupio sa mislim da 15g, pa me izulo kada sam ga zavrtio i prvi put cuo Immigrant Song.

Jedino mi Physical Graffiti nikada nije bio u vrhu i nekako nisam stekao kako da bi trebao predstavljati onaj THE album.
Nije ni bas pravi pravi album nego vise kao Coda, sakupljene stvari sa raznih godina. Ali da je sjajan, to sigurno stoji, samo ne za prvo mjesto. Ili drugo, ili...



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Posted - 24/01/2021 : 14:55:48  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tonto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vukozec

Tonto preferira manje izlizane stvari, ali ja se ne odričem ni onih "izlizanih" samo zato jer su megapopularne. Ne može mi Immigrant song dosaditi ni zbog Shreka ni zbog Trenta Reznora :)



Pa nije baš da mi smeta izlizanost osim u slučaju stairwaya koja realno spada u sam top, ali mi se zaista popela na vrh glave. Jednostavno mi bolje sjedaju njihove akustične i malo sporije, atmosferičnije stvari. Meni će osobno i Ramble on i Bron-Y-Aur Stomp uvijek biti bolje stvari od Immigrant song. Preferiranje manje izlizanih bi bilo kad bi rekao da je Tea For One bolja od Since I've Been Lovin' You, a nije.

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Poli
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Posted - 24/01/2021 : 15:10:16  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tonto

Preferiranje manje izlizanih bi bilo kad bi rekao da je Tea For One bolja od Since I've Been Lovin' You, a nije.


Nije, ali nije ni daleko iza.

Prije bih rekao da ima malo drugaciju atmosferu, jos depresivniju, melanholicnu i nostalgicnu, a nije to solja caja za svakoga dok Since... vise prija i prosjecnoj publici.





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Tonto
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Posted - 24/01/2021 : 15:18:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tonto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
... ali zato imam ovu verziju Stairway To Heaven koja mi nije dosadila.



... a i Zappina me razveseli.



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globinjo
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Posted - 24/01/2021 : 21:49:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit globinjo's Homepage  Send globinjo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ma kakvi...sastavit top listu najvećih ikad?
teško...ne znam jel itko oborio rekord...četvorku sam kupio 1992.
ploču...od tog dana, 22.04.1992.-pa sve do 10.02.1997. ta se ploča vrtila svaki jebeni dan,odnosno poslije cd...idući dan sam otišao u HV...najviše mi bilo žao matere...žena je dolazila s posla oko 14 sati...a ja taman oko 13:30 kad bi škola bila ujutro...i odma gramofon do daske...koliko puta je zvonila i stajala ispred vrata...
najveći band ikad!

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globinjo
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Posted - 24/01/2021 : 21:50:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit globinjo's Homepage  Send globinjo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vukozec

Ne da mi se rezati, evo brzinski top 20, bez redoslijeda:

Babe I'm gonna leave you
Communication breakdown
Whole lotta love
What is and what should never be
Thank you
Heartbreaker
No quarter
RnR
Black dog
Stairway
Misty mountain hop
Going to California
What is and what should never be
Immigrant song
Trampled underfoot
The Rover
In the light
Nobody fault by mine
In the evening
All my love



trljam oči...pa opet...pa opet...na listi ti nema pisme, koja je po meni, top5...možda i top 3...

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Paka01
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Posted - 24/01/2021 : 21:55:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Paka01 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Top 10 Zeppelina? Evo, ali bez nekog redoslijeda:

- Good Times, Bad Times
- Communication Breakdown
- Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
- Living Loving Maid
- Immigrant Song
- Since I've Been Loving You
- Stairway to Heaven
- The Song Remains the Same
- Achilles Last Stand
- Kashmir

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And when all is said and done, even the Devil won't care enough to spit in the mud


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vukozec
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Posted - 24/01/2021 : 23:42:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by globinjo

quote:
Originally posted by vukozec

Ne da mi se rezati, evo brzinski top 20, bez redoslijeda:

Babe I'm gonna leave you
Communication breakdown
Whole lotta love
What is and what should never be
Thank you
Heartbreaker
No quarter
RnR
Black dog
Stairway
Misty mountain hop
Going to California
What is and what should never be
Immigrant song
Trampled underfoot
The Rover
In the light
Nobody fault by mine
In the evening
All my love



trljam oči...pa opet...pa opet...na listi ti nema pisme, koja je po meni, top5...možda i top 3...



Since i've been loving you? Kashmir? Dazed & confused?

Kladim se na zadnju.

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Tonto
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Posted - 25/01/2021 : 00:49:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tonto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Stvarno mi nije jasno zašto je tako teško potpisat čovika kad mu mrdneš pismu. Nego ovaj mora dizat tužbe... a meni je ovaj original jači od Zeppelina pa sad možete i drvlje i kamenje...


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ivanl
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Posted - 25/01/2021 : 03:10:17  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ivanl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Poli

quote:
Originally posted by Tonto

Preferiranje manje izlizanih bi bilo kad bi rekao da je Tea For One bolja od Since I've Been Lovin' You, a nije.


Nije, ali nije ni daleko iza.

Prije bih rekao da ima malo drugaciju atmosferu, jos depresivniju, melanholicnu i nostalgicnu, a nije to solja caja za svakoga dok Since... vise prija i prosjecnoj publici.







Kakve ba, cikare caja, a pricate o Zeppelinima... ma daj...
Bicerinima rakije, casama Whiskya ajde de...

Los cukar na fritulama!
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ivanl
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Posted - 25/01/2021 : 03:13:04  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ivanl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
'Cetvorka' je zakon i cement!
Da je jos tu bio Kashmir sa onog bezveznog albuma sa najboljom njihovom pjesmom, 'cetvorka' bi usla u anale, topa deset. Ni ovako nije daleko...

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ivanl
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Posted - 25/01/2021 : 03:19:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ivanl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fenomenomenalna obrada!

https://youtu.be/5gusXZDej0Y

I to kakva razlika u glazbenom izricaju ovih bendova a 'uboli' su bit. To i znaci i potvrduje da je glazba samo glazba. Uvijek bila i bit ce...
I niko da je spomene.
Meni je 'mrak' orididi, a ovaj cover rastura.

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globinjo
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Posted - 25/01/2021 : 08:14:48  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit globinjo's Homepage  Send globinjo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vukozec

quote:
Originally posted by globinjo

quote:
Originally posted by vukozec

Ne da mi se rezati, evo brzinski top 20, bez redoslijeda:

Babe I'm gonna leave you
Communication breakdown
Whole lotta love
What is and what should never be
Thank you
Heartbreaker
No quarter
RnR
Black dog
Stairway
Misty mountain hop
Going to California
What is and what should never be
Immigrant song
Trampled underfoot
The Rover
In the light
Nobody fault by mine
In the evening
All my love



trljam oči...pa opet...pa opet...na listi ti nema pisme, koja je po meni, top5...možda i top 3...



Since i've been loving you? Kashmir? Dazed & confused?

Kladim se na zadnju.


When the levee breaks

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vukozec
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Posted - 25/01/2021 : 09:46:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by globinjo

quote:
Originally posted by vukozec

quote:
Originally posted by globinjo

quote:
Originally posted by vukozec

Ne da mi se rezati, evo brzinski top 20, bez redoslijeda:

Babe I'm gonna leave you
Communication breakdown
Whole lotta love
What is and what should never be
Thank you
Heartbreaker
No quarter
RnR
Black dog
Stairway
Misty mountain hop
Going to California
What is and what should never be
Immigrant song
Trampled underfoot
The Rover
In the light
Nobody fault by mine
In the evening
All my love



trljam oči...pa opet...pa opet...na listi ti nema pisme, koja je po meni, top5...možda i top 3...



Since i've been loving you? Kashmir? Dazed & confused?

Kladim se na zadnju.


When the levee breaks



Mogla je i ona upast. S obzirom da sam What is and what should never be greškom naveo dvaput, neka upadne :)
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Posted - 25/01/2021 : 09:50:21  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send vukozec a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tonto

Stvarno mi nije jasno zašto je tako teško potpisat čovika kad mu mrdneš pismu. Nego ovaj mora dizat tužbe... a meni je ovaj original jači od Zeppelina pa sad možete i drvlje i kamenje...




Tonto, evo za tebe jedan vrlo zanimljiv strip: https://web.law.duke.edu/musiccomic/



Theft! A History of Music is a graphic novel laying out a 2000-year long history of musical borrowing from Plato to rap.

U duhu teme koju obrađuje, objavljen je kao public domain free download: https://web.law.duke.edu/musiccomic/download/

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Posted - 25/01/2021 : 10:56:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tonto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Odlicno.

Da se razumijemo, meni ne smetaju takva preuzimanja, meni smeta ne odavanje priznanja zaslužnima. Ili kako kaže komentar na youtube:

Jimi Hendrix heard the original recording of "All Along the Watchtower", liked it, and turned it into an whole new song. But he left the writing credit solely to Bob Dylan. And that is the difference between Jimi Hendrix and Jimmy Page.

Caveu opraštam mercy seat, taj je vjerovatno bio tolko drogiran da ni ne zna da ju je pokupio.

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Tonto
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Posted - 25/01/2021 : 11:48:51  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tonto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sa wikipedije:


Led Zeppelin has been successfully and unsuccessfully accused of music plagiarism several times.

On Led Zeppelin's album Led Zeppelin II (1969), parts of the song "Bring It On Home" were copied from Sonny Boy Williamson's 1963 recording of "Bring It On Home," written by Willie Dixon. On the same album, "The Lemon Song" included an adaptation of Howlin' Wolf's "Killing Floor." In 1972, Arc Music, the publishing arm of Chess Records, brought a lawsuit against Led Zeppelin for copyright infringement over "Bring It On Home" and "The Lemon Song"; the case was settled out of court for an undisclosed sum. Earlier UK pressings of the album listed the song as "Killing Floor" and part credited it to Burnett, Howling Wolf's real name.
Led Zeppelin's song "Whole Lotta Love" contained lyrics that were derivative of Willie Dixon's 1962 song "You Need Love." In 1985, Dixon filed a copyright infringement suit, resulting in an out-of-court settlement. Later pressings of Led Zeppelin II credit Dixon as co-writer.[16]
Led Zeppelin also paid a settlement to the publisher of Ritchie Valens' song "Ooh! My Head" over "Boogie with Stu" (from their album Physical Graffiti) which borrowed from Valens' song, although they had already listed Mrs Valens in the credits.[17]
Led Zeppelin's song "Dazed and Confused" was derived from a 1967 Jake Holmes song of the same name, which had been performed by Jimmy Page when he was with The Yardbirds.[18][19] In June 2010, Holmes filed a lawsuit against the guitarist for copyright infringement in a United States District Court, claiming Page knowingly copied his work.[20] The case was dismissed with prejudice in January 2012 following a stipulation filed by both parties.[21] The 2012 Led Zeppelin release Celebration Day credits the song to "Jimmy Page, inspired by Jake Holmes".
The Led Zeppelin song "Black Mountain Side" sounds similar to Bert Jansch's version of the traditional folk song "Down by Blackwaterside". No legal action was ever taken against Led Zeppelin, because it could not be proved that the recording in itself constituted Jansch's own copyright, as the basic melody is traditional.[22]
A number of people have put forth the opinion that the introduction, and opening guitar arpeggios, of Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven" bears a close resemblance to the 1968 instrumental "Taurus" by the group Spirit.[23] In May 2014 an attorney hired by Randy California's heirs announced plans to file a copyright infringement suit that will seek a co-writing credit for California on "Stairway to Heaven."[24][25] A Los Angeles jury ruled in favor of Led Zeppelin in June 2016.[26] On October 5, 2020, the US Supreme Court again ruled in favor of Led Zeppelin.[27]
Reviews of the song "Since I've Been Loving You" by Led Zeppelin (from their Led Zeppelin III album) have noted its similarity to the Moby Grape song "Never".[28][29] No legal action is known to have been taken.

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...a u stvari me najviše živcira kad zagriženi cepelin fanovi kenjaju po bijelom dugmetu, što sam doživio x puta. Jest Brega plagijator, ali je davao dovoljno svog tača da bude zanimljiv i fino je to iskombinirao s balkan soundom. U inat njima danas svi Bebek albumi idu na slušanje. Živio pastirski rock!


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Paka01
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Posted - 25/01/2021 : 12:58:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Paka01 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zeppelinima nitko ne može osporiti kvalitetu, tu su među najvećima ikad. No, isto tako nema ciganskijeg benda od njih šta se tiče krađe. To se uzimalo na sve strane bez ikakvog pardona, bez potpisivanja originalnih izvođača. Sva srića pa imamo internet danas i lakše je provjerit te stvari jer to je lopovluk na maksimumu.

Would a new flood please finally come? A real rain and an assortment of plagues
And when all is said and done, even the Devil won't care enough to spit in the mud


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Posted - 25/01/2021 : 13:02:51  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tonto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Paka01

Zeppelinima nitko ne može osporiti kvalitetu, tu su među najvećima ikad. No, isto tako nema ciganskijeg benda od njih šta se tiče krađe. To se uzimalo na sve strane bez ikakvog pardona, bez potpisivanja originalnih izvođača. Sva srića pa imamo internet danas i lakše je provjerit te stvari jer to je lopovluk na maksimumu.

Pazi, opet će biti prijetnje baniranjem.

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Posted - 25/01/2021 : 13:18:41  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Paka01 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Neka, čeka se onaj argument "pa šta ima veze, to svi rade, nisu oni jedini"

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