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alexts
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Serbia
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Posted - 08/10/2024 : 10:34:56
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Prvo se pojavljuju dve tajne grupacije - "oni koji više ne kupuju stripove redovno" i "oni koji kupuju redovno ali od drugih izdavača".
Ne zna se ko je u njima, izuzev za ovu drugu, da je matori paraliticar u njoj.
Sad se pojavljuju i neki koji muljaju sa kafom. |
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matori paraliticar
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Posted - 08/10/2024 : 10:45:45
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odlicna analiza!
realno nema ovde nikakvog veselja.. koliko cuda bi ck mogla napraviti a nece
sveukupno pitanje je ipak da li bi mi stripasi bolje prosli bez njih (ipak su i iskoristili svoje misice za neke vazne stvari)
(sto se tice mene, lako je "ne kupovati redovno" kad me toliki procenat njihovog kataloga ne zanima, pri kraju dw "prvog perioda" je pocelo tako da bude ali sam ipak uzimao dosta stvari koje su me "polu-zanimalo" (dw marvel recimo) ) |
Ja se nadam da ce se vremenom izboriti umetnost stripa i da ce sve propusteno biti nadomesteno! |
Edited by - matori paraliticar on 08/10/2024 10:49:21 |
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Bachy
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Croatia
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Posted - 08/10/2024 : 11:16:32
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Znači točan naziv priče bi bio: Uže za vješanje čovjeka koje je korišteno u vješanju čovjeka te se to isto uže nakon vješanja čovjeka prodavalo za veliku lovu jer se vjerovalo da donosi sreću onome tko ga kupi za veliku lovu.

Naslov cijelog albuma bi bio: Uže za vješanje čovjeka koje je korišteno u vješanju čovjeka te se to isto uže nakon vješanja čovjeka prodavalo za veliku lovu jer se vjerovalo da donosi sreću onome tko ga kupi za veliku lovu i druge priče!
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Oj, budi svoj! |
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MF Doom
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Posted - 08/10/2024 : 11:18:38
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quote: Originally posted by matori paraliticar
sveukupno pitanje je ipak da li bi mi stripasi bolje prosli bez njih
Za ČK je po meni najbolje napraviti paralelu sa Forma Ideale nameštajem. To je povoljan nameštaj jako velikog asortimana za široke narodne mase koji pokušava da po kvalitetu i dizajnu parira samo onoliko koliko mu neizlaženje iz budžeta dozvoljava na opšte zadovoljstvo kupaca koji bi da opreme stan sa što manje para. I to je niša u kojoj ČK posluje.
Da li bi stripaši dobro prošli bez njih je dobro pitanje. Lično bih bio zadovoljan kad bi izgubili DC licencu (ne zato što sam zloban, već) jer bi je se možda latio neko ko bi to izdavao kako dolikuje. Ovde najviše mislim na format, kvalitet i nadao bih se možda i nekom kontinuitetu serijala. Ali postavlja se pitanje da li mi uopšte imamo tržište za tako nešto?
Da li bi bolje prošli bez njih - mislim da ne. Iako lično nisam njihova redovna klijentela (ne zbog nekog bojkota, već mi njihova ponuda nije interesantna) mislim da su se prilagodili potrebama tržišta a kakvo tržište takav i izdavač. Mogli su oni možda kao Stalker i Najkula da pokušaju da kreiraju svoje tržište, ali to je mnogo duži i teži put i ići linijom manjeg otpora je legitiman potez.
I ako uzmemo u obzir da Forma Ideale ima veći obrt novca nego neki uvoznik italijanskog dizajnerskog nameštaja, onda je verovatno slična situacija i sa stripovima, ako ne i gora.
Tako da ostaje da ko hoće jeftino štivo za čitanje ima tu opciju, a ko bi opet kvalitetan stilski nameštaj mora da nađe varijantu za uvoz od preko. I to je to. |
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alexts
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Serbia
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Posted - 08/10/2024 : 11:44:41
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ČK se zamlaćuje sa savremenim DC/Marvel naslovima, propuštajući priliku da objavi mnogo sjajnih starijih propuštenih stvari. Krenuli su bili sa poznatijim naslovima, da bi ih vrlo brzo zanemarili i orijentisali se na tekuću produkciju, koju (valjda) misle da prodaju mlađim čitaocima, ne računajući na starije stripofile dovoljno u tom segmentu.
Ali, kako vidim da ostali izdavači izdaju Marvel traljavo ili nikako (koji, za razliku od DC-ja dopušta da više izdavača na ovim prostorima izdaju njihove stripove), pomislim da kad bi ČK izgubila licencu na ova dva najveća američka izdavača, ne bi se dobilo ništa, a izgubilo ipak nešto. |
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blueberry9
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Posted - 08/10/2024 : 12:06:15
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quote: Originally posted by MF Doom
quote: Originally posted by matori paraliticar
sveukupno pitanje je ipak da li bi mi stripasi bolje prosli bez njih
Za ČK je po meni najbolje napraviti paralelu sa Forma Ideale nameštajem. To je povoljan nameštaj jako velikog asortimana za široke narodne mase koji pokušava da po kvalitetu i dizajnu parira samo onoliko koliko mu neizlaženje iz budžeta dozvoljava na opšte zadovoljstvo kupaca koji bi da opreme stan sa što manje para. I to je niša u kojoj ČK posluje.
Da li bi stripaši dobro prošli bez njih je dobro pitanje. Lično bih bio zadovoljan kad bi izgubili DC licencu (ne zato što sam zloban, već) jer bi je se možda latio neko ko bi to izdavao kako dolikuje. Ovde najviše mislim na format, kvalitet i nadao bih se možda i nekom kontinuitetu serijala. Ali postavlja se pitanje da li mi uopšte imamo tržište za tako nešto?
Da li bi bolje prošli bez njih - mislim da ne. Iako lično nisam njihova redovna klijentela (ne zbog nekog bojkota, već mi njihova ponuda nije interesantna) mislim da su se prilagodili potrebama tržišta a kakvo tržište takav i izdavač. Mogli su oni možda kao Stalker i Najkula da pokušaju da kreiraju svoje tržište, ali to je mnogo duži i teži put i ići linijom manjeg otpora je legitiman potez.
I ako uzmemo u obzir da Forma Ideale ima veći obrt novca nego neki uvoznik italijanskog dizajnerskog nameštaja, onda je verovatno slična situacija i sa stripovima, ako ne i gora.
Tako da ostaje da ko hoće jeftino štivo za čitanje ima tu opciju, a ko bi opet kvalitetan stilski nameštaj mora da nađe varijantu za uvoz od preko. I to je to.
Skroz dobra paralela, narocito nakon sto je opstepoznato da je Forma Ideale zabranila distribuciju IKEA namestaja. |
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matori paraliticar
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Posted - 08/10/2024 : 12:17:53
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Bravo za Formu Ideale!!!!
I posle kazu forumi su bacanje vremena.. kad bi inace cuo za tu firmu da nisam ovde...
Najveci bravo naravno MF Doomu sto se potrudio da to sve ovako lepo opise, hvala! |
Ja se nadam da ce se vremenom izboriti umetnost stripa i da ce sve propusteno biti nadomesteno! |
Edited by - matori paraliticar on 08/10/2024 12:19:33 |
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sawitch
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Serbia
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Posted - 08/10/2024 : 13:58:15
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Zvali me za Forma Ideale par puta za neku od menadzerskih pozicija, odbio sam svaki put i razgovor. :) Nije slucajno. |
Patricia hic mea totus mundus est |
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alexts
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Serbia
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Posted - 08/10/2024 : 14:18:54
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quote: Originally posted by sawitch
Zvali me za Forma Ideale par puta za neku od menadzerskih pozicija, odbio sam svaki put i razgovor. :) Nije slucajno.
Beži, posle moraš da upadaš u Ikeu i da im pretiš, šta će ti to u životu? |
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ivan_micic
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Croatia
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delboj
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 20/10/2024 : 11:29:58
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quote: Originally posted by ivan_micic
Koje epizode Spiroua su u 6.integralu?
17, 18 i 19: Spirou et les hommes-bulles / QRN sur Bretzelburg / Panade à Champignac. |
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I like girlz
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matori paraliticar
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Largo
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anto
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Serbia
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Posted - 25/10/2024 : 13:05:57
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Ljudi,jel ovaj novi Konan strip ili ilustrovana knjiga? Slonova kula |
Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)! |
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jagodanbg
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Zlix
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Peyo
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alexts
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verab
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Peyo
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Posted - 10/11/2024 : 20:30:37
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quote: Originally posted by alexts
Interesantno da u ČK izdanju Nošeni vetrom 2 kreolski crnci govore nekakav čakavski dalmatinski.
Da nije šokački? |
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alexts
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Posted - 10/11/2024 : 21:13:49
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quote: Originally posted by matori paraliticar
Retko sta vise najavljuju.. vise imaju rasprodaje za sitnis..
Propadoše, stigle ih kletve. |
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matori paraliticar
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Posted - 10/11/2024 : 21:17:41
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Ma bice okej uvek je tu Hari i Dina.. da resi stvar..
Ipak 10 betmena i gomila mangi i ponesto starih humoristicnih stripova u 2024 nije lose |
Ja se nadam da ce se vremenom izboriti umetnost stripa i da ce sve propusteno biti nadomesteno! |
Edited by - matori paraliticar on 10/11/2024 21:18:34 |
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delboj
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