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Posted - 30/08/2008 : 17:44:58
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Ferri je definitivno sve gori i gori (zabrinjavajuce). Jest da je ovo samo thumbnail, ali i to je dovoljno:
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Edited by - ---dp--- on 30/08/2008 17:46:38 |
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Posted - 30/08/2008 : 17:55:32
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Moram da priznam da i Chiarolline table obecavaju, mislim da cemo mi okoreli ferrijevski zagorovci sve radije citati Chiarolline stripove:
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Posted - 30/08/2008 : 18:16:17
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i dalje mi kod svih novih crtaca fali ona atmosfera po kojoj su Ferri i Donatelli bili poznati. Crtez sam mi nije dovoljan da se uzivim u strip i upravo ta atmosfera odvaja Zagora od svih ostalih Bonnellijevaca,sa izuzetkom Dylan Doga |
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Posted - 30/08/2008 : 18:43:49
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Tu si u pravu, iako meni neomiljeni Chiarolla docarava bas tu atmosferu jako dobro. Donatelli tu bio uz Ferrija odmah, ali mnogi novi klinci to ne vide kod Donatellija i pitaju se i cude zasto nam je on tako dobar. |
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Posted - 30/08/2008 : 19:55:17
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meni je i naslovnica od reguralnog broja odlicna...a mladji nemogu videti kvalitet donatelija na ludensovom slabom skenu...pravi donateli vidi se samo kad je sken odlican |
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Posted - 30/08/2008 : 21:17:12
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quote: Originally posted by Poncho
Mlađi ne mogu uvidjeti kvalitet Donatellija jer to ne postoji. Donatelli je bio loš crtač i točka.
Mozda je bolje da stavis tacku na svoje poznavanje stripa. Malo potrazi reference i ocene strucnjaka kad je Donatelli u pitanju |
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Posted - 31/08/2008 : 00:49:05
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opet je predaleko i ovaj kjarola od onog iz "sedam gradova cibole"... i dalje mi se ne sviđa...
a fino su se braća espozito predstavila u zagoru, dopale su mi se ove table... |
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Posted - 31/08/2008 : 07:50:08
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quote: Originally posted by Poncho
Mlađi ne mogu uvidjeti kvalitet Donatellija jer to ne postoji. Donatelli je bio loš crtač i točka.
tako je! |
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Posted - 31/08/2008 : 10:20:16
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quote: Originally posted by Poncho
Mlađi ne mogu uvidjeti kvalitet Donatellija jer to ne postoji. Donatelli je bio loš crtač i točka.
Naravno da je bilo i ima boljih crtaca/umjetnika, nego kako sam vec rekao ne radi se samo o tome kako neko crta,vec kako se to sklopi u strip, te koji crtez ide na svoje mjesto i znati koja slika treba da se nacrta da bi se napravila atmosfera. To kod Zagora osim Ferrija je samo Donatelliju polazilo za rukom. Dobar slikar nije automatski dobar crtac stripova, to neki ne razlikuju |
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Posted - 31/08/2008 : 10:32:17
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Da nije bio Donateli loš su dokaz naslovnice kod Malog Rendžera-više manje odlične. |
CITAJTE TELLERA,... DA BI POSTALI BOLJI LJUDI! STRIP JUNAK KOJI UCI POŠTENJU I PRAVDI!
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Posted - 31/08/2008 : 13:16:29
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quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
quote: Originally posted by Poncho
Mlađi ne mogu uvidjeti kvalitet Donatellija jer to ne postoji. Donatelli je bio loš crtač i točka.
Naravno da je bilo i ima boljih crtaca/umjetnika, nego kako sam vec rekao ne radi se samo o tome kako neko crta,vec kako se to sklopi u strip, te koji crtez ide na svoje mjesto i znati koja slika treba da se nacrta da bi se napravila atmosfera. To kod Zagora osim Ferrija je samo Donatelliju polazilo za rukom. Dobar slikar nije automatski dobar crtac stripova, to neki ne razlikuju
Ma koja atmosfera? Bolju atmosferu stvori cassaro(a on je isto katastrofa). Donatelli baš nije zna dočarat atmosferu. |
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Posted - 31/08/2008 : 13:21:42
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quote: Originally posted by Poncho Ma koja atmosfera? Bolju atmosferu stvori cassaro(a on je isto katastrofa). Donatelli baš nije zna dočarat atmosferu.
Daj Poncho, sledeći put tri puta razmisli pre nego napišeš nešto..![](icon_smile_kisses.gif) |
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Posted - 31/08/2008 : 14:19:31
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quote: Originally posted by Beva
Ferri zna dočarati atmosferu, Donatelli to nije znao... Stvar je kod starijih članova u čistoj nostalgiji...
Donatelli:
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Meni je ovaj crtež u najmanju ruku urnebesno smiješan, a bar bi Hellingena trebalo crtati 'atmosferično'... Ferri ga je crtao maestralno...
Aleluja!!!! Evo ovo je najbolji dokaz, čista nostalgija vas drži. Beva asu!!! |
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Posted - 31/08/2008 : 14:32:41
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Ako krenemo da kacimo "reprezentativne" primerke raznih crtaca, onda bi se ovde moglo naci raznih uzasa (u bikvalno UZASA) od mnogo poznatijih crtaca. A kad je ovaj crtez Hellingena upitanju, on mi je sasvim ok. Pozdato je da se u stripu neretko naginje odstupanju od realnog prikaza radi ekspresivnosti koja je nuzni deo kvalitetnog stripa. Upravo zbog toga su neophodni neobicni kadrovi, nerealne senke, karikaturalne crte lica. Mogli biste, pre nego sto nesto decidirano napisete ili tvrdite, da se malo obrazujete ili makar informisete u vezi toga o cemu vodite raspravu. Uostalom, zaboli me sta mislis ne samo o Donatelliju nego o bilo cemu vezanom za devetu umetnost. |
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Posted - 31/08/2008 : 14:37:10
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Meni je ovaj Helingen sasvim OK!![](icon_zagor.gif) ![](icon_zagor.gif) I moram da dodam - Donateli je izvrstan crtac!!! |
Jel to štos iz Minhena? |
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Posted - 31/08/2008 : 17:12:24
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ukusi se razlikuju i to je normalno, npr. meni je donatelli odlično odradio posao u "povratak u darkvud" i ostalim epizodama tog vremena, a isto tako u npr. "mrtvačka glava" početkom 90tih... a da je imao zaista katastrofalnih perioda, imao je, mora se priznati... |
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