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mladjo
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Posted - 12/11/2009 : 14:30:07
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Joj, taj leksikon super zgleda. Sram me, ali nisam ga još pročitao
Inače, ovo smo mi kupili prije jedno 5-6 godina aktuelnom gradonačelniku

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Nameless
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quote: Originally posted by vope
quote: Originally posted by Nameless
Dje si je nasao?
Kupio sam je čini mi se na Božićnjem sajmu knjiga na trgu Nikole Pašića u BG da li 2000. ili 2001. godine nijesam siguran. U pitanju je izdavačka kuća Ezoterija i mislim da nije problem naći tu knjigu u bolje opremljenim knjižarama. Za PG knjižare već nijesam siguran da li je imaju uopšte.
Ok,hvala. Pogledaću po knjižarama u Pg. |
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vope
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Posted - 12/11/2009 : 20:31:45
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Priče:
Den Simions "Smrt kentaura" Solidna priča koja govori o predavaču u osnovnoj školi u unutrašnjosti Amerike koji svojim učenicima svakodnevno priča priču o kentauru i njegova dva saputnika u kojoj prepoznajemo svijet iz Hiperiona, čak se pojavljuje bog-šiljak Šrajk. Smrt kentaura metaforično predstavlja odlazak učitelja od svojih učenika koji se dešava na kraju priče isto kako ketaur u njegovoj priči odlazi preživljavajući smrt ali njegovi saputnici stradaju za opšte dobro. Nije loše.
Adam Troj Kastro "Skakavci" Zemlja biva napadnuta bićima koja su slična ljudima samo su mali kao skakavci i, naravno, imaju krila. Ono što ih razlikuje od skakavaca je što su smrtonosni, pošast koja je pobila ogromnu većinu populacije na zemlji dok ostatak preživaljava užasne mutacije. Priča kulminira opštim ludilom i preobražajem Zemlje i nekoliko preživjelih ljudi. Cijela priča mi je asocijacija na to kako mora izgledati ludilo unutar ludog uma.
Robert Holdstok "Posrebrenje" Još jedna varijacija na temu sirena, bitno drugačija od stereotipa ali nije ostavila neki poseban utisak na mene pa joj neću posvetiti ni više riječi...
Grejem Masterton "Seksualni objekt" Kako zadržati bogatog, seksualno nezajažljivog i perverznog muža i obezbijediti mirnu budućnost? Treba samo da se pretvorite u hodajućeg multi-vaginalnog stvora koji će zadovoljiti i muža i desetak njegovih prijatelja istovremeno. Suma: jedna iznad priprodne, po jedna ispod baradavica na grudima i po jedna na svakoj strani obraza. Genijalna je zadnja rečenica: "...Helen je lila slane suze tuge i slatke suze seksa, koje su se mešale i padale joj na ruke...". Trpanje!!!!!!
Den Simons ""Dva minuta i 45 sekundi" Toliko vremena treba da se stropoštate sa visine od 9 milja. Kratka priča o izluđujućem strahu od visine.
Bruks Karuters "Mesečeve kule" Perverzna priča o vremenu kad se na nebu pojavio novi mjesec i pozvao mrtve da ponovo hodaju Zemljom. Ima tu i seksa sa zomijima i sličnih stvari. Interesantna priča o ultimativnom spajanju i stvaranju novog entiteta - živih mjesečevih kula.
Elizabet Hend "Bakhe" Feministička priča o iznenadnoj pojavi nasilja koga izazivaju žene nad muškarcima i kako polako postaju dominantne na planeti. Pičkovlada.
Kim Njumen "Slavna čudovišta" Sjajna priča ispričana iz ugla jednog marsovca (sa sve pipcima i ostalim forama) koji pokušava da zaradi za tečnost nasušnu radeći kao glumac na zemlji. Uglavnom glumi u hororima i kao statista kroz razna trusna razdoblja mira i ratova Marsa i Zemlje. Jako ga muči rasna diskriminacija zemljana. Jaka priča.
F.Pol Vilson "Bob Dilan, Troj Džonson i kraljica spida" Priča o tipu iz budućnosti talentovanom da vjerno reprodukuje svaku pjesmu koju čuje ali nema ni trunke kreativnosti. Rešenje: vratiti se u prošlost u vrijeme početaka Boba Dilana, ponijeti najvažnije ploče malo ispred tog vremena i pokušati postati slavan. Kako ga je kvarni Dilan stručno nasankao.
Nil Gejmen "Viteštvo" Najbolja priča u knjizi. Starica u obližnjoj antikvarnici pronalazi i za, otprilike, 45 penija kupuje Sveti Gral. Na koji način Ser Lanselot, koji se iznebuha pojavljuje u današnjoj Engleskoj, pokušava da izmoli cilj svoje životne potrage od starice i način na koji je cijela priča ispričana je sjajan.
S.P.Sombtou "Čui Čai" Ili ples preobraženja. Priča o zavisnosti i o kontra-frankenštajnovskim poduhvatima. Rasturiš tijelo i njegove djelove sašiješ drugim ljudima tako da ti djelovi zadrže karakteristike originalne osobe. Nije loše uopšte.
Jan Mekdonald "Restoran izgubljenih snova" Vrlo zavodljiv način pisanja i vrlo lijepa priča smještena na Mars (onaj isti iz "Bespuća", ko je čitao) u naselje "Iskupljenje" u kom vlada pošast nesnijevanja. Kako je izazvana i kako je prevaziđena dočarava nam Mekdonald svojim dopadljivim bajkovitim pripovijedanjem. Jedva čekam njegove nove knjige iz "Paladina".
Na kraju opšta ocjena zbirke je jako dobra - miks svega i svačega interesantnog. Preporuka!
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mladjo
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Posted - 13/11/2009 : 23:31:31
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Brilijantno. Narativni tok brži od svjetlosti, a istovremeno prepun detalja. Činjenice, pa i one najminornije za radnju, pomno razrađene i opširne, a sama srž pogađa oštrinom jače nego Shrike. Čitajući je drugi put tek postajem svjestan nebrojenih detalja koji su promakli, ne nepažnjom, jednostavno su ih zasjenile druge misli. Uđite u ovaj svijet, dopustite da vas plašt Hyperiona zagrne i prepustite se bogatstvu jednog velikog uma izraženog u najboljoj maniri pisane riječi.
Dok ga čitate, Hyperion je kao duga. Splet čarobnih boja koje prelaze preko Vas i vašega grada.
Dan Simmons pisac je koji može stati uz bok "novijim" velikanima SF literature: Vernorom Vingeom, Gregom Bearom i Larryjem Nivenom, a svaki od njih predstavlja, ha, barem dostojne nasljednike "svetog trojstva" ovoga žanra. Postaje naširoko poznat prije točno dvadeset godina, upravo romanom "Hyperion", za kojega osvaja nagrade Hugo i Locus. Roman, osim svojom radnjom, privlači i stilom pisanja, koji ponajviče sliči Boccacciovom Decameronu i Canterburijevskim pričama, a uvlačenje pjesnika Keatsa u radnju je, po meni, također bilo dobar potez. Nakon nekoliko nastavaka, okreće se novim izazovima, među kojima su mu najpoznatiji "Ilij" i "Olimp", a naša publika ga također može čitati u horrorcu Ljeto noći, u izdanju Algoritma. |
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Barker
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Posted - 14/11/2009 : 09:36:50
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mladjo, jel ovaj hyperion, sf ili epska f? odavno ga srecem po knjizarama pa je mozda vreme i da ga pokupim, ako je sf naravno. |
Bistro i duboko nebo utociste pruza! |
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mladjo
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Posted - 14/11/2009 : 11:35:24
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Čistokrvni sf kupi obavezno, vrijedi sfvakev pare |
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Barker
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Posted - 14/11/2009 : 13:45:55
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ok! hvala ;)
EDIT: a samo sam se trebao vratiti na prethodnu stranu i samo bi mi se kazalo/reklo :) |
Bistro i duboko nebo utociste pruza! |
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Mhejl
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Posted - 14/11/2009 : 15:57:37
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Ima li ovdje ljubitelja serijala epske fantastike ''Točak vremena''(Robert Džordan), ili sam ja jedini primjerak na ovome forumu? |
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gregorbikupil
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Posted - 14/11/2009 : 17:57:43
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To ču čitat, imam na polici, ali nije još na redu... |
Avatar mi je super... malo nihilisticki... a i sporo se nalaže... evo, sad ce... |
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Rock.Bob Rock
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Lord Vader89
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Posted - 14/11/2009 : 19:00:36
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kad si fan necega, ne moze da ti dosadi  naravno, volim da procitam i nesto opste, neki klasik, ali SF mi je strast 
meni je jedino cudno da se ovde ne javljaju ljudi koji ne citaju neSF literaturu. pa niko ih nece banovati |
Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku: Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D. |
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gregorbikupil
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Posted - 14/11/2009 : 19:04:00
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Ima tu toliko nijansi, toliko mogućnosti, da je skoro nemoguće govoriti o žanru. Englezi govore o spekulativnoj fikciji, tu je mjesta za sve, od Kafke pa do Howardovog Conana. Nikako jedan žanr ko recimo krimič. |
Avatar mi je super... malo nihilisticki... a i sporo se nalaže... evo, sad ce... |
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Obi-wan
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Posted - 14/11/2009 : 19:13:46
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quote: Originally posted by vope
Vejder&Mejl: Ah lijepo li je vratiti se na Dinu ponovo, samo raspravljajte i dalje a ja ću da se prisjećam...A bene-geserit su, slobodno prevedeno, filozofi/ratnice/genetičarke/političarke/dobreribeuglavnom, itd. I još jednom: čitanje nastavaka će vas samo baciti u tešku potragu za smislom, meta-filozofiju i poprilično će vas boljeti glava ako se budete upirali da sve to skopite u cjelinu i raspetljate svaki misaoni čvor - tako da nemojte, bacite se na milion drugih knjiga i uživajte.
Od silne priče, morat ću i ja ponavljati. A i prošlo je nekih 15 godinica. Pitam se šta će mi donijeti zreliji pogled.  |
What you call sanity, it’s just a prison in your minds that stops you from seeing that you’re just tiny little cogs in a giant absurd machine. |
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Obi-wan
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Posted - 14/11/2009 : 19:15:57
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quote: Originally posted by Mhejl
Da li preporučujete 'Levu ruku tame'(Urdula le Gvin)?
ursla l'gan  Nije knjiga koja će se dopasti svakome... |
What you call sanity, it’s just a prison in your minds that stops you from seeing that you’re just tiny little cogs in a giant absurd machine. |
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Imrahil
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Posted - 14/11/2009 : 19:17:51
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quote: Originally posted by Mhejl
Ima li ovdje ljubitelja serijala epske fantastike ''Točak vremena''(Robert Džordan), ili sam ja jedini primjerak na ovome forumu?
Evo jos jednog ljubitelja mada, odlucio sam da pravim pauzu od godinu-dve, laguna smara koliko sporo objavljuje. Mada, ima boljih serijala.  |
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Obi-wan
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Posted - 14/11/2009 : 19:19:10
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quote: Originally posted by Barker
mladjo, jel ovaj hyperion, sf ili epska f? odavno ga srecem po knjizarama pa je mozda vreme i da ga pokupim, ako je sf naravno.
Remek djelo, ali nije lagana literatura. Ako si za nešto lakše, radije preskoči... |
What you call sanity, it’s just a prison in your minds that stops you from seeing that you’re just tiny little cogs in a giant absurd machine. |
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Imrahil
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Posted - 14/11/2009 : 19:19:28
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quote: Originally posted by Obi-wan
quote: Originally posted by Mhejl
Da li preporučujete 'Levu ruku tame'(Urdula le Gvin)?
ursla l'gan  Nije knjiga koja će se dopasti svakome...
Meni se svidela, mada se slazem sa obi-evim misljenjem i nikako da uzmem da citam Zemljomorje. |
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Obi-wan
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Posted - 14/11/2009 : 19:20:48
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quote: Originally posted by Rock.Bob Rock
Zanima me čitate li vi nešto drugo pored SF/F/H?
Meni recimo dosadi ako čitam isti žanr stalno.
Samo stripove. Od knjiga ne.  Kada volim baš te žanrove. Doduše, trenutno čitam Alijenista (Caleb Carr), to mu dođe više neki detektviski ili triler... |
What you call sanity, it’s just a prison in your minds that stops you from seeing that you’re just tiny little cogs in a giant absurd machine. |
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Imrahil
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Posted - 14/11/2009 : 19:25:42
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quote: Originally posted by Rock.Bob Rock
Zanima me čitate li vi nešto drugo pored SF/F/H?
Meni recimo dosadi ako čitam isti žanr stalno.
Trileri i istorijski pored navedenog, ali zalutam i ponekad (ali retko) u neki drugi zanr.  |
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Obi-wan
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Posted - 14/11/2009 : 19:26:25
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quote: Originally posted by Imrahil
quote: Originally posted by Mhejl
Ima li ovdje ljubitelja serijala epske fantastike ''Točak vremena''(Robert Džordan), ili sam ja jedini primjerak na ovome forumu?
Evo jos jednog ljubitelja mada, odlucio sam da pravim pauzu od godinu-dve, laguna smara koliko sporo objavljuje. Mada, ima boljih serijala. 
Pridružujem se. Mada sam ranije čitao samo SF, u zadnjih 5-6 godina, epska je na prvom mjestu. Radim, pa mi više odgovara zabavnije i opuštenije. SF ponekad traži upregnuće mozga i poznavanje nauke. Točak ne mogu čitati jer mi ne odgovaraju pauze i nedovršenost, ali kada bude gotovo, uzimam čitati sve odjednom od početka do kraja. Tako najviše volim. Kupujem knjige ponekad godinama prije nogo što počnem čitati. Poenta je što imam lijepu zbirku knjiga i stripova pa se uvijek nađe dovršenih serijala. A dok to čitam, dovršavaju se drugi i tako strpljivo napredujem i uživam.
Nedavno sam uzeo čitati Mač senki I, II/1, II/2 i III. Pročitam ja to fino do kraja, stvarno super knjige, kad ono na kraju nije završeno, prekida u najzanimljivijem momentu. Pa sam malo guglao i saznao da se trenutno piše knjiga IV, a tko zna koliko će ih biti. Popizdeh...  |
What you call sanity, it’s just a prison in your minds that stops you from seeing that you’re just tiny little cogs in a giant absurd machine. |
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Rock.Bob Rock
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Posted - 14/11/2009 : 19:50:04
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quote: Originally posted by Imrahil
quote: Originally posted by Rock.Bob Rock
Zanima me čitate li vi nešto drugo pored SF/F/H?
Meni recimo dosadi ako čitam isti žanr stalno.
Trileri i istorijski pored navedenog, ali zalutam i ponekad (ali retko) u neki drugi zanr. 
Imaš nešto za preporučiti od toga?
Zadnje što sam pročitao od trilera je bilo od Roberta Littela: Legenda - roman opsjene - http://www.profil.hr/knjiga/legende/1019/ vrlo zanimljiv triler sa nekim nadnaravnim elementima.
A od povijesnog sam već spomenuo Chabonovu Gospodu pustolove (Gentleman of the road) - isto preporuka  |
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Mhejl
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Posted - 14/11/2009 : 19:58:53
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quote: Originally posted by Imrahil
quote: Originally posted by Mhejl
Ima li ovdje ljubitelja serijala epske fantastike ''Točak vremena''(Robert Džordan), ili sam ja jedini primjerak na ovome forumu?
Evo jos jednog ljubitelja mada, odlucio sam da pravim pauzu od godinu-dve, laguna smara koliko sporo objavljuje. Mada, ima boljih serijala. 
Ja sam stigao do sedme knjige na našem jeziku. E, onda je i mene Laguna iznervirala sa tempom izlaženja (a krimiće i trivijalnu literaturu mogu da objavljuju hiper-brzinom) pa sam uzeo sken osme knjige na engleskom i pročitao sam je. Ali opet, Džordan je naporan za pratiti i na srpskom, a kamoli na engleskom, pa sad čekam devetu knjigu. Inače, ovih dana izlaze zadnje knjige serijala (na osnovu Džordanovih završenih i poluzavršenih poglavlja) pa se trudim da izbjegnem spojlere na internetu.
@Bob Rok Pa naravno dačitam i druge žanrove. Besmisleno je ograničiti sebe na samo jedan žanr...
To bi vam ovako išlo... Dakle, oduvijek sam volio epsku fantastiku, naročito veliku trojku: Tolkina, Martina i Džordana (naučnu fantastiku, pak, nisam čitao). Čitao sam i druge žanrove, od krimića (Agata Kristi) pa do većine drugih žanrova (Branislav Nušić, Ivan Cankar, Sterija Popović, Stevan Sremac, Branko Ćopić, i mnogi drugi). Međutim, onda su stripovi ponovo početi izlaziti, u obliku edicije ''Veseli četvrtak''. Meni se vratila stara manija za stripovima, pa sam onda na jedno godinu dana zanemario knjige, sa manjim izuzecima. Naravno, sada duboko žalim zbog toga. Onda sam, podstaknut jednom DeeCay-jevom recenzijom, iz biblioteke uzeo zbirku priča Isaka Asimova 'Sabrani roboti'. Nakon početnog šoka i prilagođavanja, jako brzo sam se privikao na ovaj prekrasni žanr. I internet (Wikipedia i forumi, ofkors) mi je puno pomogao... Onda sam nastavio sa Asimovom ('Pod čeličnim nebom', 'Golo sunce', neponovljivi 'Kraj Vječnosti', 'Zadužbina') i sa drugim SF autorima ('Autostoperski vodič kroz Galaksiju', 'Dina'), a bogami i sa drugim renomiranim piscima. Evo, prije nekog vremena sam završio sa knjigama 'Na Drini ćuprija'(kakva knjiga!) i ''It'' od Stivena Kinga. Kakav ludi koktel, zar ne? Volim da širim vidike... U svakom slučaju, uskoro ću uzeti ostatak serijala Arakis i 'Prokletu avliju' i mogu vam reći da prokleto uživam!  P.S Samo ne valja što je većina knjiga u mojoj biblioteci belestristika, koju ne podnosim. 'Mati pirinča' i slične gluposti... P.S.S A počeću i sa Gorkim. |
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Imrahil
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Posted - 14/11/2009 : 20:08:02
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quote: Originally posted by Rock.Bob Rock
quote: Originally posted by Imrahil
quote: Originally posted by Rock.Bob Rock
Zanima me čitate li vi nešto drugo pored SF/F/H?
Meni recimo dosadi ako čitam isti žanr stalno.
Trileri i istorijski pored navedenog, ali zalutam i ponekad (ali retko) u neki drugi zanr. 
Imaš nešto za preporučiti od toga?
Zadnje što sam pročitao od trilera je bilo od Roberta Littela: Legenda - roman opsjene - http://www.profil.hr/knjiga/legende/1019/ vrlo zanimljiv triler sa nekim nadnaravnim elementima.
A od povijesnog sam već spomenuo Chabonovu Gospodu pustolove (Gentleman of the road) - isto preporuka 
Od istorijskih preporucujem Stivena Presfilda, pise uglavnom o staroj Grckoj, a od trilera, recimo Harlana Kobena ili Majkl Konelija. 
Hvala a preporuke.  |
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Imrahil
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Posted - 14/11/2009 : 20:09:11
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quote: Originally posted by Obi-wan
quote: Originally posted by Imrahil
quote: Originally posted by Mhejl
Ima li ovdje ljubitelja serijala epske fantastike ''Točak vremena''(Robert Džordan), ili sam ja jedini primjerak na ovome forumu?
Evo jos jednog ljubitelja mada, odlucio sam da pravim pauzu od godinu-dve, laguna smara koliko sporo objavljuje. Mada, ima boljih serijala. 
Pridružujem se. Mada sam ranije čitao samo SF, u zadnjih 5-6 godina, epska je na prvom mjestu. Radim, pa mi više odgovara zabavnije i opuštenije. SF ponekad traži upregnuće mozga i poznavanje nauke. Točak ne mogu čitati jer mi ne odgovaraju pauze i nedovršenost, ali kada bude gotovo, uzimam čitati sve odjednom od početka do kraja. Tako najviše volim. Kupujem knjige ponekad godinama prije nogo što počnem čitati. Poenta je što imam lijepu zbirku knjiga i stripova pa se uvijek nađe dovršenih serijala. A dok to čitam, dovršavaju se drugi i tako strpljivo napredujem i uživam.
Nedavno sam uzeo čitati Mač senki I, II/1, II/2 i III. Pročitam ja to fino do kraja, stvarno super knjige, kad ono na kraju nije završeno, prekida u najzanimljivijem momentu. Pa sam malo guglao i saznao da se trenutno piše knjiga IV, a tko zna koliko će ih biti. Popizdeh... 
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