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Gil-galad
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Posted - 06/12/2010 : 00:55:48
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quote: Originally posted by Paka01
3.99 dolara je za bilo koji strip, neovisno koliko je težak?
Koliko ja znam, da!
Čak i za omnibuse, koji su baš-baš glomazni, ide 3.99 + 3.99. (Ako samo taj jedan strip uzimaš, naravno.) |
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Paka01
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Posted - 06/12/2010 : 01:25:12
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quote: Originally posted by Gil-galad
quote: Originally posted by Paka01
3.99 dolara je za bilo koji strip, neovisno koliko je težak?
Koliko ja znam, da!
Čak i za omnibuse, koji su baš-baš glomazni, ide 3.99 + 3.99. (Ako samo taj jedan strip uzimaš, naravno.)
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Raven84
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Posted - 06/12/2010 : 14:49:17
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quote: Originally posted by Gil-galad
quote: Originally posted by Paka01
3.99 dolara je za bilo koji strip, neovisno koliko je težak?
Koliko ja znam, da!
Čak i za omnibuse, koji su baš-baš glomazni, ide 3.99 + 3.99. (Ako samo taj jedan strip uzimaš, naravno.)
Nazalost, mislim da ovo ne vrijedi za omnibuse pa cka ni za obicne albume. Sad sam pokusao kupiti sandman omnibus i pise da je postarina 14 dolara.
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mr murdoc
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Posted - 06/12/2010 : 16:54:09
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quote: Originally posted by sloppy
ja sam na početku bio mišljenja da je jedini batman bruce wayne ali sad sam se oduševio nad dick grayson-om. veliku ulogu tu je odigrao i mali damian wayne. interakcija izmedju njih dvojice je fenomenalna. dick ima totalno drugčiji pristop odgajanju novog robina. baš ono što je bruce-u falilo da napravi promjenu u damianu. nisam mislio da če biti ovako dobar ali dick je meni odličan u ulogi batman-a.
Slazem se definitivno, vec od novih titana preferiram graysona kao Legacy, tim je ok, jason je greska a damian surogat . Prvi robin mora biti novi batman. Zasto? Zato jer nije opterecen osvetom , niti okovan predrasudama, isto tako nije opsjednut duhovima proslosti niti prakticira samopravdu kao jedini i ultimativni nacin . Grayson je zaigran, nepristran, ali opet tvrd i kreativan.

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King Warrior
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Posted - 06/12/2010 : 18:24:11
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quote: Originally posted by mr murdoc
Slazem se definitivno, vec od novih titana preferiram graysona kao Legacy, tim je ok, jason je greska a damian surogat . Prvi robin mora biti novi batman. Zasto? Zato jer nije opterecen osvetom , niti okovan predrasudama, isto tako nije opsjednut duhovima proslosti niti prakticira samopravdu kao jedini i ultimativni nacin . Grayson je zaigran, nepristran, ali opet tvrd i kreativan.
Sve je to ok sto si rekao, ipak, probelm je sto je Dick i previse slican Bruceu po karakteru, tako bi uvijek bio u njegovoj sjenci. Dick nema nista osvjezavajuce sto bi mogao podariti liku Batmana. |
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sloppy
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Posted - 06/12/2010 : 19:02:47
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quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
quote: Originally posted by mr murdoc
Slazem se definitivno, vec od novih titana preferiram graysona kao Legacy, tim je ok, jason je greska a damian surogat . Prvi robin mora biti novi batman. Zasto? Zato jer nije opterecen osvetom , niti okovan predrasudama, isto tako nije opsjednut duhovima proslosti niti prakticira samopravdu kao jedini i ultimativni nacin . Grayson je zaigran, nepristran, ali opet tvrd i kreativan.
Sve je to ok sto si rekao, ipak, probelm je sto je Dick i previse slican Bruceu po karakteru, tako bi uvijek bio u njegovoj sjenci. Dick nema nista osvjezavajuce sto bi mogao podariti liku Batmana.
sad kako ga pišu je totalno drugčiji od bruce-a. ako bi bruce trenirao malog damian-a za novog robin-a ne bi išlo ovim putem. bruce nema strpljenja za međuosobne odnose, dok ga dick ima puno. a i na terenu je dick puno slobodniji u svom načinu rada. više improvizira i još nije izgubio smisao za humor, dok je bruce all bizniz. |
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 07/12/2010 : 04:01:02
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Sami lik nije ništa bez dobrog scenarista.
Dick kao Batman je dobar dok god ga piše dobar scenarist. |
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swamp thing
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Posted - 07/12/2010 : 13:46:50
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Pitanje za redoslijed citanja:
Nabavio sam na papiru - Batman and son - Batman The Resurrection of Ra's Al Ghul - Batman The Black Glove - Batman R.I.P. - Final Crisis - Batman and Robin vol. 1 i 2
Scan: - Batman and Robin 13-16 - Batman 700, 701, 702, 703 - Batman The Return of Bruce Wayne 1-6 - Batman The Return
Dakle, da ponovim, molim redoslijed citanja? :) |
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sloppy
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Posted - 07/12/2010 : 15:44:12
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na papiru je vaš tako kako si napisao. Batman The Resurrection of Ra's Al Ghul možeš i izbacit iz liste, ali ako ga več imaš onda je tu negde (meni je malo povario flow)
a pojedinačni brojevi. Batman The Return of Bruce Wayne 1-6 i Batman 700, 701, 702, 703se mora pročitat prije Batman and Robin 16 a onda Batman The Return. to je moja interpretacija time lina ali možeš ih čitat i svaki naslov za sebe. Batman 700 mislim da je morrisonov a za ostale nisam siguran :) |
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provodina
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Posted - 07/12/2010 : 16:06:29
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quote: Originally posted by provodina
Morrison Run Dr. Simon Hurt saga redosljed čitanja
Batman and son Batman The Black Glove Batman R.I.P.
Batman - Battle for the cowl
Final Crisis
Batman and Robin vol. 1
Red Robin - Grail
Batman and Robin vol 2. 7-9
Red Robin Collision
Batman and Robin vol 2 10-12
Batman- Time and Batman 700 701,702
Batman The Return of Bruce Wayne 1-5
Batman and Robin 13-15
Batman The Return of Bruce Wayne 6
Batman and Robin 16
kraj sage
Više od toga nije potrebno za ovu sagu.
Početak Batman Inc.ako te zanima
Bruce Wayne Road Home serijal
Batman Return
Batman Inc 1.
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mr murdoc
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Posted - 07/12/2010 : 18:01:27
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quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
quote: Originally posted by mr murdoc
Slazem se definitivno, vec od novih titana preferiram graysona kao Legacy, tim je ok, jason je greska a damian surogat . Prvi robin mora biti novi batman. Zasto? Zato jer nije opterecen osvetom , niti okovan predrasudama, isto tako nije opsjednut duhovima proslosti niti prakticira samopravdu kao jedini i ultimativni nacin . Grayson je zaigran, nepristran, ali opet tvrd i kreativan.
Sve je to ok sto si rekao, ipak, probelm je sto je Dick i previse slican Bruceu po karakteru, tako bi uvijek bio u njegovoj sjenci. Dick nema nista osvjezavajuce sto bi mogao podariti liku Batmana.
Sorry , ali ne slazem se , sto ne znaci da sam apsolutno i u pravu. Grayson je vrlo rano izasao iz Wayneove sjene prikljucivsi se teen titansima i svoju zrelost pokazao kao pojedinac , ali kao i voda tima, sto se za Brucea nebi moglo reci glede JLA. Da se odmah u pocetku pogresno ne razumijemo..Batmanova uloga i performanca u JLA je izvanredna i jaako zanimljiva , ali on je uvijek bio siva eminencija i usamljeni vuk sa vrlo izrazenom sociopatskom osobnoscu koja je mnoge odusevljavala, ali istodobno i plasila , te potajno stvarala jednu presutnu nepovjerljivost i averziju. Grayson to ne posjeduje , on je spreman biti mracnim vitezom, ali i voditi tim , on posjeduje vise varijacija i vise fleksibilnosti. i na posljetku. Grayson i Helena Bertinelli mogu stvoriti isto takav erotski naboj kao i Wajne i Selina Kyle..zar ne? Jedino Grayson moze biti novi Batman..nitko drugi..
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swamp thing
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mr murdoc
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Posted - 07/12/2010 : 19:01:31
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quote: Originally posted by sloppy
quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
quote: Originally posted by mr murdoc
Slazem se definitivno, vec od novih titana preferiram graysona kao Legacy, tim je ok, jason je greska a damian surogat . Prvi robin mora biti novi batman. Zasto? Zato jer nije opterecen osvetom , niti okovan predrasudama, isto tako nije opsjednut duhovima proslosti niti prakticira samopravdu kao jedini i ultimativni nacin . Grayson je zaigran, nepristran, ali opet tvrd i kreativan.
Sve je to ok sto si rekao, ipak, probelm je sto je Dick i previse slican Bruceu po karakteru, tako bi uvijek bio u njegovoj sjenci. Dick nema nista osvjezavajuce sto bi mogao podariti liku Batmana.
sad kako ga pišu je totalno drugčiji od bruce-a. ako bi bruce trenirao malog damian-a za novog robin-a ne bi išlo ovim putem. bruce nema strpljenja za međuosobne odnose, dok ga dick ima puno. a i na terenu je dick puno slobodniji u svom načinu rada. više improvizira i još nije izgubio smisao za humor, dok je bruce all bizniz.
DA, tu se apsolutno slazem. , ali i moj prijasnji post ce to pojasniti zasto je tako, i otkriti da je to rad kroz desetljeca , a ne samo poigravanje autora . |
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Edited by - mr murdoc on 07/12/2010 19:03:54 |
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TinK2
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Posted - 07/12/2010 : 22:26:16
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Grayson to ne posjeduje , on je spreman biti mracnim vitezom, ali i voditi tim...
Ne citam, ali me zanima... Ne znaci li to da je Dick zapravo forser? Spreman je biti mracnim vitezom, ali to duboko u dusi nije?  |
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Billy_the_Kid
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Posted - 08/12/2010 : 10:05:20
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quote: Originally posted by mr murdoc
Jedino Grayson moze biti novi Batman..nitko drugi..
Mislim da ce i Damian biti dobar Batman barem zbog onih par epizoda iz buducnosti. Sad je jos klinjo al bas zbog toga taj lik ima najvise da se razvija |
Seeing things differently can open new paths. |
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mr murdoc
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Posted - 08/12/2010 : 10:19:58
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quote: Originally posted by TinK2
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Grayson to ne posjeduje , on je spreman biti mracnim vitezom, ali i voditi tim...
Ne citam, ali me zanima... Ne znaci li to da je Dick zapravo forser? Spreman je biti mracnim vitezom, ali to duboko u dusi nije? 
hehehe, ma ne on samo nije voljan postati bolesnim sociopatom kakav je Bruce. |
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Nathan Summers
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Posted - 08/12/2010 : 11:31:52
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Sve je to ok sto si rekao, ipak, probelm je sto je Dick i previse slican Bruceu po karakteru, tako bi uvijek bio u njegovoj sjenci. Dick nema nista osvjezavajuce sto bi mogao podariti liku Batmana.
Mislim da gresis. Dick je jedini od svih koji su nosili odelo Robina koji je naj neslicniji Batmanu. Dick je uvek prikazan kao onaj koji je doneo veselje i svetlost u zivot Brucea. Mislim da je ova tema dotaknuta u Final Crisis brojevima Batmana. Bruce i Dick su totalno suprotni. Bas je zato i Dick uspeo da ukroti Demiana, a Bruce nije mogao. Oni su totalni opoziti. Dok to nije slucaj sa Tim Dreakom. On je veoma slican Brucu. Meni se licno Dick kao Batman puno dopada, i odobravam ovu odluku DCa da ostave Dicka da radi u Gothamu kao Batman. Ima tu puno potencijala, jer su izvanredan tandem sa Demianaom. |
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Windwalker
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Posted - 18/12/2010 : 18:34:38
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Htio bih pročitati nešto od Batmana (nisam čitao ništa osim par onih starih koji su izlazili kod nas i podsjećali na animiranu seriju, no i to sam zaboravio).
Uvijeti su: -da su scenarij ili priča ili oboje odlični i stvarno vrijedni čitanja. -da je Batman Bruce Wayne, a ne neki futuristički Batmani i slično. -da nije nekakva previše kontinuitet priča u kojoj novi čitatelj ne zna tko pije, a tko plaća. -da nema pederka Robina!!! -da je strip dobavljiv kod nas, u HR (u S^2 ili Lib).
Molim preporuke. |
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Mr. Bushido
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swamp thing
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Posted - 18/12/2010 : 19:54:06
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U 'The Killing Joke' nema Robina sigurno, a neki ga smatraju ponajboljim stripom o ovom junaku (iako ja mislim da je 'The Dark Knight Returns' bolji), a objavljen je i u Hrvatskoj, ali u crno-bijeloj varijanti (Strasan Vic). Takodje, preporuka za 'Batman: Year One' (nema Robina). U pomenutom 'The Dark Knight Returns' ima Robin, ali je zensko, i to prilicno kul, a ovaj strip je objavljen u Srbiji u izdanju firme 'Beli put' (Povratak Mracnog Viteza). Ako ti se nista od ovoga ne svidi, ja ne znam sta hoce. :)
Edit: To je ono sto izgleda ima u SNK, a sto stvarno vrijedi procitati od Batmana. Ima jos dobrih na spisku, ali probaj ti prvo s ovim, pa vidi da li ce ti se svidjeti. |
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Obi-wan
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Posted - 18/12/2010 : 20:00:35
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Možda neki od ovih: The long Halloween Dark victory - dva klasika (više detektivske priče) Hush All-star Batman & Robin - malo modernije sa više akcije
Nemoj kao kriterijum uzimati da nema Robina, mogao bi propustiti neke najbolje priče... |
What you call sanity, it’s just a prison in your minds that stops you from seeing that you’re just tiny little cogs in a giant absurd machine. |
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Windwalker
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Posted - 18/12/2010 : 20:16:10
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OK, hvala na preporukama.
Za ovaj Killing Joke sam čuo hvalospjeve i namjeravam uzeti sigurno. I o Millerovima sam čuo puno dobroga, pa ću vidjeti. A ništa, čini se da mi ne gine taj Robin (barem ga neće biti u trećem filmu ).
EDIT Još par pitanja. Ima li onaj Arkham Asylum veze s igrom, tj. je li to strip prema igri ili sasvim druga priča? Unseen i Haunted Gotham mi se čine zanimljivi, pa me zanima imaju li mračnu normalnu priču, ili teraju neku zajebanciju (prvenstveno mislim na Haunted Gotham, zbog naslovnice)? |
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 18/12/2010 : 20:36:03
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quote: Originally posted by Windwalker
Još par pitanja. Ima li onaj Arkham Asylum veze s igrom, tj. je li to strip prema igri ili sasvim druga priča? Unseen i Haunted Gotham mi se čine zanimljivi, pa me zanima imaju li mračnu normalnu priču, ili teraju neku zajebanciju (prvenstveno mislim na Haunted Gotham, zbog naslovnice)?
Ovaj Arkham Asylum nema veze sa igrom.
Unseen i Haunted Gotham nisu zajebancija. Neka te ne vara crtež Kelleyja Jonesa, on samo voli crtati Batmana sa dugačkim ušima. |
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Windwalker
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Posted - 18/12/2010 : 20:58:09
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Ma kad je na Haunted Gotham naslovnici napravio pozu ko vampir, pa sam pomislio.
OK, nabavit ću nešto i pročitati, dok čekam treći film i Arkham City. |
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Obi-wan
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Posted - 18/12/2010 : 23:01:07
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quote: Originally posted by Windwalker
OK, hvala na preporukama.
Za ovaj Killing Joke sam čuo hvalospjeve i namjeravam uzeti sigurno. I o Millerovima sam čuo puno dobroga, pa ću vidjeti. A ništa, čini se da mi ne gine taj Robin (barem ga neće biti u trećem filmu ).
EDIT Još par pitanja. Ima li onaj Arkham Asylum veze s igrom, tj. je li to strip prema igri ili sasvim druga priča? Unseen i Haunted Gotham mi se čine zanimljivi, pa me zanima imaju li mračnu normalnu priču, ili teraju neku zajebanciju (prvenstveno mislim na Haunted Gotham, zbog naslovnice)?
Nemoj Arkham Asylum. Vrlo teško štivo, traži predznanje, puno simbolike i nije za svakoga. Meni se osobno ne sviđa ni Killing joke. Čist prosjek, ali ljudima se sviđa pa ne mogu puno proturječiti (samo nemoj poslije da ti nije nitko rekao).  |
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