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andjelt
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lwood
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almon
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andjelt
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DzekDenijels
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wolf
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1Euro
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Posted - 17/05/2012 : 16:34:01
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izgledaju ko da su tek izašli iz štampe.....previše sjaje za 38 godina stare postere..... Iako je težko optuživati čovjeka kojeg ne znamo da je varalica ali ipak ovo je sumljivo JAKO, zbog toga ja neču bidati iako imam otvoren račun na limundo, i volio bi imati originalne postere ovo preskačem.
Ipak je čudno da netko drži kod kuče 38 GODINA postere a na njima nema ni mrlje, nije ih stavio na zid ni ništa,....čekao strpljivo 38 godina kako bi ih baš sada stavio na aukcije....ZAŠTO BAŠ SADA, NAKON TOLIKO VREMENA ( a da nije ni minutu uživao u njima, nije ih stavio na zid, ni ništa...).
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Oki
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Posted - 17/05/2012 : 16:38:40
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Zar misliš da bi Zagor i Kit Teler posteri onako pozirali nakon što su 38 godina bili uralani u rolu??? Pa trebao bi stavit ciglu na svaki kut da se ne urola natrag! -imaš uvjek na stripovi.com aukcijama u vitrini kod prodavača agozec poster junaka iz ZS i LMS-a,ali u opisu jasno stoji "kopija"...možda imaju istog dobavljača? |
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Imrahil
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agozec
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lwood
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Colombia
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Posted - 17/05/2012 : 20:32:13
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ja iman blekov poster al ne izgleda ni upola ovako dobro na slici. |
depresivni iskompleksirani primitivac i nadrkana budala |
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wesskowaz
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Serbia
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srdjandj
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Lastan
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Posted - 17/05/2012 : 22:49:45
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quote: Originally posted by srdjandj
Posteri su originalni, 100%!
Niti jedan od ovih postera nije orginalan.Nemoguće da su ovoliko sjajni(odraz blica).Boje su prejake i papir je previše sjajan.Na orginalima se prilikom slikanja može stvorit odbljesak na dijelu papira na kojem nema boje(slike),ali odbljesak sa slike je nemoguć kod orginala.Nije prvi puta da su se pojavile kopije.Na takvom papiru ti posteri nisu rađeni jer taj sjajni papir ne upija boju.Na takvom papiru sigurno nisu rađeni. Moj dojam. |
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wolf
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Posted - 17/05/2012 : 22:56:03
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I meni sve to skupa previše blješti, ali ipak mi je najsumnjivija ona kristalno čista bijela boja. Nakon toliko godina nema šanse da barem malo ne požuti. |
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 17/05/2012 : 22:57:07
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Papir na kojima su svi posteri otisnuti izgleda predobro i za današnje vrijeme, pa nema šanse da bi mogao potjecati iz 1975. (ne 1974.). A da ne govorim da ih zub vremena u drugom slučaju baš nimalo nije dotakao??? |
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite, i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti... |
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srdjandj
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Serbia
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Posted - 17/05/2012 : 23:44:52
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quote: Originally posted by Lastan
quote: Originally posted by srdjandj
Posteri su originalni, 100%!
Niti jedan od ovih postera nije orginalan.Nemoguće da su ovoliko sjajni(odraz blica).Boje su prejake i papir je previše sjajan.Na orginalima se prilikom slikanja može stvorit odbljesak na dijelu papira na kojem nema boje(slike),ali odbljesak sa slike je nemoguć kod orginala.Nije prvi puta da su se pojavile kopije.Na takvom papiru ti posteri nisu rađeni jer taj sjajni papir ne upija boju.Na takvom papiru sigurno nisu rađeni. Moj dojam.
Imao sam ja ove postere kao dete, čak se sećam i da sam ih naručio i dobio u originalnoj futroli. Kasnije je to bačeno, no nije to tema, meni se u prvi mah učinilo da su originalni i moguće da su čuvani baš u takvoj originalnoj futroli i mogli bi biti i dan danas isti kao i kad su kupljeni. No, ako ti kažeš da nisu originalni(verujem da se bolje razumeš u ove stvari, jer si se susretao godinama sa svim i svačim), ja ti verujem! |
Iz Vršca stiže glas, u vinu leži spas, ko vino ne pije, taj nek se ubije!!! |
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korner
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Posted - 18/05/2012 : 00:28:48
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Nije mi jasno zašto jedni te isti članovi prave problem dali je nesto orginal ili ne posteri su orginal za mene i dali ti isti članovi imaju postere da to mogu potvrdit tako da nije sve kopija sto neko napise i uvjek sam se nosio s time nije bitno šta se napise već ko napise ovo je moj prvi komentar na bilo koju priču uvjek sam gledo ostat po strani ali vidim da ne vrijedi ja imam te iste postere ali lošije ocuvane i sigurno su orginal i nikad ne bi pitao na drugim foruma ili aukcijama dali su orginal ili ne i ovo nije prvi put da na drugim aukcijama neko pravi problem i eto moja priča se svodi na to da ću ja sigurno pokušat osvojit te postere a drugi neka pričaju da sam ovakav ili onakav a onda me mole za neku uslugu a nisu ni svjesni da nije problem u meni već u njima pozdrav svima koji su dobra i topla srca i onima koji misle da svi nesta mute i misle zaradit kruha bez motike vjerujtemi grese  |
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andjelt
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korner
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Posted - 18/05/2012 : 00:42:54
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Nije prvi put da neko povuče pitanje šta je to a nije ponudio ni 2 kune da bi znao dali je orginal ili ne a bitno da je stavio na forum da je neka budala dala 35 kuna za jednu slicicu a pojedini te iste sličice skupinama 10 godina i nemogu ih skupit i opet nije problem u prodavcima već u kupcima jer su oni loši i prevaranti kupuju kopirano zato bolje da se ne javljaju i da ne ostavljaju ponude na nesta kopirano ili sto nije orginal već da puste nas loše i prevarante da to kupimo ja ih molim za strpljenje pozdrav svima  |
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andjelt
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andjelt
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Posted - 18/05/2012 : 00:51:12
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Na darkwood forumu je već pisano o ovome
evo u vezi pan postera sta kaze sloba : "Ti posteri su jako retki, a da su originalni. I Srbiji i u Hrvatskoj su dostampani u solidnoj kolicini, ali se lako primeti razlika izmedju originala i kopije, iako je jedna serija jako dobro uradjena.
Od strip junaka, na Pan posterima postoje jos i Dr. Zistis i Lun kralj ponoci." a onda Dveribad dodaje "Ti posteri su se naručivali poštom i dolazili bi u nekakvoj kartonskoj tubi na kojoj je bila adresa primatelja(na malom cijelom zaljepljenom papiru je bila vaša adresa,napisana na pisaćoj mašini).Mislim da još negdje imam tu orginalnu kartonsku tubu,kaja je inače odlično čuvala sadržaj koji je unutra.Vrhovi tube su bili zatvoreni nekakvim plastičnim čepovima(ako se dobro sjećam). Inače,ja sam s orginala kopirao te postere(zagor,tex,mark,blek,kit) i uradio po 500 primjeraka svakog junaka,a ideja je bila da ih djelim kolekcionarima ili poklanjam te kopije uz neke stripove.Obzirom da ih je trebalo skenirati,a da ne ispadne da kopiram orginal,na tim kopijama nema nikakvog natpisa(izbrisano je PAN poster i ona sitna štampana slova na lijevoj strani ...npšro "dnevnik".Novi Sad....itd...). Vjerojatno je nekoliko ljudi primjetilo da sam u te postere pakirao i zaštićivao stripove kada sam ih slao sa aukcija.To su čiste kopije na nešto tvrđem papiru.Još uvijek imam te filmove i dosta dobro je to urađeno,ali je očito da je kopirano i korišteno u propagandne svrhe.Mislim da sam to radio 2004 godine.
Naknadno se pojavilo nekoliko fuš pokušaja,ali jedan lik iz N.Sada je to odlično kopirao.Od orginala se razlikuje po teksturi boje,nešto slabije prozirnosti papira na dnevnom svijetlu i postoje, na toj odlično odštampanoj kopiji ,nekoliko detalja koji odudaraju od orginala.Na Tex-ovom posteru je fulana boja u par nijansi,a na Zagorovom je greška vidljivija.Inače,to su jedina dva postera koja su poprilično dobro odrađena u kopiranom izdanju.Papir je identičan sa orginalom,pa se teško razaznaje. Vrlo uočljiva razlika tih kopija u odnosu na orginal su upravo ta sitna slova u lijevom dijelu postera,duž ruba.U orginalu su nešto mutnija ta slova. Poster od Mikija je rađen(isti kao i na albumu sa sličicama),ali mislim da nije išao u prodaju(možda Srbija i blizina).Crtali su ih talijanski crtači i može se otkrit tko ih je radio,mislim da negdje imam taj podatak. Vidjet ću i probat pronać orginalni paket(tubu),pa javim." uostalom to je ovaj topik: http://www.darkwood.co.rs/forum/index.php?topic=1026.15
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korner
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Posted - 18/05/2012 : 00:52:54
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Nisam mislio samo na tebe pusti ljude da rade i prodaju i ti sigurno nećeš ostavit ponudu o 50€ ali drugi hoće i ja to cjenim na limundu nisam prodao ni jedan predmet niti hoću nego samo kupujem i hoću da kupim bez tvog savjeta nemoj se umarat tuđim aukcijama nadam se da si shvatio moj i tvoj problem jer neću ja kupovat i davat novac da bi ti piso na forumu da sam ja budala koja je platila ovoliko ili onoliko svaka aukcija ima svoju cjenu i kupca i svako voli nekog ili nesto zato strpljenja za sve koji skupljaju svašta  |
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andjelt
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Posted - 18/05/2012 : 01:03:58
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quote: Originally posted by korner
Nisam mislio samo na tebe pusti ljude da rade i prodaju i ti sigurno nećeš ostavit ponudu o 50€ ali drugi hoće i ja to cjenim na limundu nisam prodao ni jedan predmet niti hoću nego samo kupujem i hoću da kupim bez tvog savjeta nemoj se umarat tuđim aukcijama nadam se da si shvatio moj i tvoj problem jer neću ja kupovat i davat novac da bi ti piso na forumu da sam ja budala koja je platila ovoliko ili onoliko svaka aukcija ima svoju cjenu i kupca i svako voli nekog ili nesto zato strpljenja za sve koji skupljaju svašta 
Ne razumem te druze. Odakle ti znas da ja ne bih ostavio ponudu od 50€? Malo vise novca sam ja ostavio na stripove nego sto ti mislis očigledno ... ali, to nije bitno sad. U svakoj grani kolekcionarstva, pravi kolekcionari ne vole i to im je rak rana kada se pojavi neka replika koja naizgled izgleda kao orginal. Što se mene tiče tako je i ovde. Nekoliko puta sam ukazao ovde na predmete koji su meni lično sumnjivi i pitao ostale kolekcionare za misljenje. Ne vidim šta sam tu loše uradio. Ako sam te iz ko zna kog razloga uznemirio ovim topikom, evo javno ti se izvinjavam. Šta ti meni zapravo zameras?
... ne želim da budem grub, ali ako ti se ne svidja šta piše u ovom topiku nemoj ga otvarati, što kažu "šta zagorči ne mora se zagristi". Ni u jednom trenutku tebe nisam etiketirao kao budalu ...
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korner
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Posted - 18/05/2012 : 01:11:02
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Evo kad smo kod toga 70% moji stripova sam kupio kod Ratka sto ns aukcijama sto privatno i većinu dobio na poklon jer je vidio da nisam neki vakav ili nakav kako ljudi kažu i nisam stigo da odem na otvorenje striparnice gdje sam trebao ići sa gospodinom gasom iz Osijeka ili dcrapo sa stripova com jer sam bio sprecen i pogledah slike s otvorenja i vidjeh uokvirenje slike Pan postere Odmah sam nazvao Ratka da vidim dali ima još da ih kupim jer sam zainteresiran i on mi je rekao da se može nabaviti znaci da ih ima samo ih treba naći ili prepoznat da su pravi pozdrav nadam se da nisam nikoga uvredio
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andjelt
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