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mr murdoc
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meni je hip hop/rap još najbolje i sel, problem mi je kaj ne komibinira toliko glazbu. Uzima vestern teme za svoju vestern dramu, nimalo "tarantinovski"....da ne govorim kak je uvodna pjesma ista kao i u filmu iz 60-tih. A to je onda kopiranje, a Taratino dosad nije kopiral vec je kombiniral vec postojece...razlika je velika!

Tarantino ne kopira on reciklira , ali kvalitetno.



e problem je kaj u Djangu kopira...početak u potpunosti! E sad druga je priča kaj hrpa ljudi nije gledala Corbuccijevog Djanga pa ima je uvodna pjesma iznenađenje. I meni je bila iznenađenje, ali neugodno jer od QT-a očekujem upravo kvalitetnu reciklažu a ne doslovnu kopiju!

Teziste vjerovatno lezi na tome da je ovo prvi QT remake , ili bolje receno Reboot..
Ako uzmemo to u obzir, onda je uvodna scena Collateral Damage



remake, nikako....u suštini DU nema veze ni sa špagetima (je vestern ali ne špageti), a još manje s Corbuccijevim Djangom i Django franšizom uopće.
e sad koliko sam shvatil ovaj pojam reboot (prema usporedbi Batsya, Burton-Nolan) to bi DU mogel biti!



Kao sto rekoh..kopirane sekvence, glazba..Collateral Damage.

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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 16:55:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dosada a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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e sad koliko sam shvatil ovaj pojam reboot (prema usporedbi Batsya, Burton-Nolan) to bi DU mogel biti!



Kao sto rekoh..kopirane sekvence, glazba..Collateral Damage.



dokaz više da nema govora u remakeu!

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mr murdoc
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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 17:05:38  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mr murdoc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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e sad koliko sam shvatil ovaj pojam reboot (prema usporedbi Batsya, Burton-Nolan) to bi DU mogel biti!



Kao sto rekoh..kopirane sekvence, glazba..Collateral Damage.



dokaz više da nema govora u remakeu!

Ali dokaz vise da se radi o rebootu..
Uostalom ovaj sam fim vec u postprodukciji svrstao pod reboot na istoimenom topicu ..
Ovdje..

http://forum.stripovi.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=42044&whichpage=1

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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 17:15:56  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dosada a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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e sad koliko sam shvatil ovaj pojam reboot (prema usporedbi Batsya, Burton-Nolan) to bi DU mogel biti!



Kao sto rekoh..kopirane sekvence, glazba..Collateral Damage.



dokaz više da nema govora u remakeu!

Ali dokaz vise da se radi o rebootu..
Uostalom ovaj sam fim vec u postprodukciji svrstao pod reboot na istoimenom topicu ..
Ovdje..

http://forum.stripovi.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=42044&whichpage=1



da, dela se o rebootu a gdje si ga ti svrstal od ova 4 pojma u naslovu teme to je pitanje

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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 17:24:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send going going a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mozda je bolje da se kaze remake.







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dosada
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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 17:33:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dosada a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Mozda je bolje da se kaze remake.



ne, jer taj pojam znači nekaj drugo...objašnjeno je u odgovorima iznad. DU ni u kojem slucaju nije remake, jer veze s "originalom" nema.

Pogledaj Corbuccijevog Djanga i sve ti bu jasno

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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 17:44:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ljudi, nit je reboot, nit je remake.

Tarantino možda voli homagirati, posuđivati i odavati počast, ali njegovi filmovi nisu direktno bazirani na drugim filmovima.

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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 17:48:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dosada a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Ljudi, nit je reboot, nit je remake.





iskreno nisam siguran u ovaj pojam i njegovo značenje...rekoh da o njemu znam samo na osnovu primjera iz Batmana i po tom mi DU tu odgovara...

a o remaku kod DU nema govora!

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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 17:51:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dosada a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Tarantino možda voli homagirati, posuđivati i odavati počast, ali njegovi filmovi nisu direktno bazirani na drugim filmovima.





tak je bilo dosad, zato me i čudil izbor uvodne pjesme...i nekih kasnijih još tema koje je ubacil u DU (:

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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 17:51:24  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Windwalker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pogledao.
Počne dobro, ima dobrih djelova, likova (Jackson najjači), ali pred kraj se sve zasere totalno i ostavi pitanje 'što mi je ova glupost trebala'?
Nije skroz loš film, ima nekih dobrih strana, ali sve u svemu preprerazvikan.
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mr murdoc
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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 18:05:08  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mr murdoc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by dosada

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Originally posted by mr murdoc

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Originally posted by dosada

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Originally posted by mr murdoc

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Originally posted by dosada

e sad koliko sam shvatil ovaj pojam reboot (prema usporedbi Batsya, Burton-Nolan) to bi DU mogel biti!



Kao sto rekoh..kopirane sekvence, glazba..Collateral Damage.



dokaz više da nema govora u remakeu!

Ali dokaz vise da se radi o rebootu..
Uostalom ovaj sam fim vec u postprodukciji svrstao pod reboot na istoimenom topicu ..
Ovdje..

http://forum.stripovi.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=42044&whichpage=1



da, dela se o rebootu a gdje si ga ti svrstal od ova 4 pojma u naslovu teme to je pitanje

Topic se na pocetku zvao reboot, kasnije sam ..mislim prosli tjedan prosirio naziv..ne pratis..vidim .

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mr murdoc
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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 18:07:56  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mr murdoc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Mr. Bushido

Ljudi, nit je reboot, nit je remake.

Tarantino možda voli homagirati, posuđivati i odavati počast, ali njegovi filmovi nisu direktno bazirani na drugim filmovima.

Ajmo ga onda nazvati reciklazni Hommage jebote

“To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all.”? Oscar Wilde

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mr murdoc
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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 18:09:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mr murdoc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Pogledao.
Počne dobro, ima dobrih djelova, likova (Jackson najjači), ali pred kraj se sve zasere totalno i ostavi pitanje 'što mi je ova glupost trebala'?
Nije skroz loš film, ima nekih dobrih strana, ali sve u svemu preprerazvikan.
5/10

Go Back To The Shire Frodo

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dosada
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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 18:42:00  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dosada a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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..ne pratis..vidim .



ne, s obzirom da mi 98% takvih naslova nisu u fokusu zanimanja...da ne govorim kak me zanimaju samo snimljeni filmovi, a ne ono kaj se tek treba snimiti!

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stripofil
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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 18:56:18  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send stripofil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Kao sto rekoh..kopirane sekvence, glazba..Collateral Damage.



Ne bi se složio. Prije bi rekao da se radi o posveti i odavanju poštovanja, upravo zato određeni elementi nisu mijenjani već samo copy-paste. Gdje ćeš većeg priznanja i divljenja.
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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 18:58:38  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send stripofil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Mr. Bushido

Ljudi, nit je reboot, nit je remake.

Tarantino možda voli homagirati, posuđivati i odavati počast, ali njegovi filmovi nisu direktno bazirani na drugim filmovima.



Upravo to, slažem se u potpunosti.
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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 19:07:34  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mr murdoc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Kao sto rekoh..kopirane sekvence, glazba..Collateral Damage.



Ne bi se složio. Prije bi rekao da se radi o posveti i odavanju poštovanja, upravo zato određeni elementi nisu mijenjani već samo copy-paste. Gdje ćeš većeg priznanja i divljenja.

E stvarno..napisah vec ,Ajmo ga onda nazvati reciklazni Hommage jebote

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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 19:10:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send stripofil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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iskreno nisam siguran u ovaj pojam i njegovo značenje...rekoh da o njemu znam samo na osnovu primjera iz Batmana i po tom mi DU tu odgovara...

a o remaku kod DU nema govora!



Reboot je definicija za povratak na početak i stvaranje nove priče. Glavni likovi su isti, ali sve ostalo može biti potpuno drugačije.
Dobar primjer je spiderman ili već spomenuti batman.

Remake zadržava priču, radnja može biti prilagođena novom dobu, može se odvijati na drugom mjestu, čak i likovi mogu biti drugačiji, ali sama priča ima zajedničku radnju. Npr. Psiho ili Sedmorica veličanstvenih.

Ako nisam u pravu slobodno me ispravite.
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mr murdoc
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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 19:11:38  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mr murdoc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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..ne pratis..vidim .



ne, s obzirom da mi 98% takvih naslova nisu u fokusu zanimanja...da ne govorim kak me zanimaju samo snimljeni filmovi, a ne ono kaj se tek treba snimiti!

Zazmiri onda na jedno oko , ili jedno bar otvori.
Radi se o topicu koji prosljeduje informacije buducih i projekata u produkciji..
2% su dovoljna za tebe..
Neki drugi koji ga prate uzivaju neki visi postotak

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mr murdoc
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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 19:13:31  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mr murdoc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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iskreno nisam siguran u ovaj pojam i njegovo značenje...rekoh da o njemu znam samo na osnovu primjera iz Batmana i po tom mi DU tu odgovara...

a o remaku kod DU nema govora!



Reboot je definicija za povratak na početak i stvaranje nove priče. Glavni likovi su isti, ali sve ostalo može biti potpuno drugačije.
Dobar primjer je spiderman ili već spomenuti batman.

Remake zadržava priču, radnja može biti prilagođena novom dobu, može se odvijati na drugom mjestu, čak i likovi mogu biti drugačiji, ali sama priča ima zajedničku radnju. Npr. Psiho ili Sedmorica veličanstvenih.

Ako nisam u pravu slobodno me ispravite.

mi ovdje govorimo o Django Unchained..ili se varam?

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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 19:15:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dosada a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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..ne pratis..vidim .



ne, s obzirom da mi 98% takvih naslova nisu u fokusu zanimanja...da ne govorim kak me zanimaju samo snimljeni filmovi, a ne ono kaj se tek treba snimiti!

Zazmiri onda na jedno oko , ili jedno bar otvori.
Radi se o topicu koji prosljeduje informacije buducih i projekata u produkciji..
2% su dovoljna za tebe..
Neki drugi koji ga prate uzivaju neki visi postotak



nek se film prvo snimi pa bumo onda vidli zaslužuje li pažnju

toliko je toga snimljenog i vrhunskog da u 3 života ne bi stigel pogledati sve kaj me zanima, a sad još da se zamaram nečim kaj se tek treba snimit...nema šanse!

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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 19:17:40  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send stripofil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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[E stvarno..napisah vec ,Ajmo ga onda nazvati reciklazni Hommage jebote





Ne možemo ga strpati u samo jednu kutiju kad je taj homage samo manji dio filma, upravo zato je i jasno da se radi o posveti.

To ti je kao kad na pizzu nakapaš malo Tabasca, što sam upravo napravio i na taj način odao priznanje Edmund McIlhennyu.
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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 19:21:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send stripofil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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mi ovdje govorimo o Django Unchained..ili se varam?



U pravu si, otišao sam malo offtopic, ali čisto iz želje da kolegu dosadu upoznam sa ovim new age pojmovima. :)

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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 19:26:09  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mr murdoc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by stripofil

quote:
Originally posted by mr murdoc
[E stvarno..napisah vec ,Ajmo ga onda nazvati reciklazni Hommage jebote





Ne možemo ga strpati u samo jednu kutiju kad je taj homage samo manji dio filma, upravo zato je i jasno da se radi o posveti.

To ti je kao kad na pizzu nakapaš malo Tabasca, što sam upravo napravio i na taj način odao priznanje Edmund McIlhennyu.

Koji je kurac homage nego posveta..jebote , a QT i jest dobar bas zbog toga sto se naveliko posluzuje vec snimljenim scenama ubacujuci nove , ali genijalne dijaloge..QT je 90% dijaloga i 20% originalne optike

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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 19:32:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mr murdoc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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mi ovdje govorimo o Django Unchained..ili se varam?



U pravu si, otišao sam malo offtopic, ali čisto iz želje da kolegu dosadu upoznam sa ovim new age pojmovima. :)

Mea Culpa

Svi smo ovdje da iznosimo stavove i razmisljanja..zato se ovo i naziva forum

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