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zlatan bihac
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 28/09/2022 : 00:35:05
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Golconda, udrite vi po juliji, pricama, granici, odesi, niku i ostalim bonelli junacima, u medjuvremenu je krenulo i par novih: nero, zombicide, eternity, 10 oktobar, simulacri...tu necete imati konkurenciju...ovi francuzi su ionako bezveze. |
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panda
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Serbia
274 Posts
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Posted - 28/09/2022 : 00:36:00
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
quote: Originally posted by SPQRoma
Markose, znači ti si izvozio svoja izdanja u Srbiju bez da si to smio po ugovoru? Ili sam pogrešno razumio šta stoji u ugovoru?
Pogrešno si razumio.
Samo da se prijavim da sam i ja pogresno razumeo :)
U delu ugovora koji smo videli pise da Golconda ima ekskluzivno pravo da objavi na srpskom i svoje izdanje na Srpskom prodaje sirom sveta. Ako uvoz Fibrinog albuma ugrozava prava koja je Golconda platila, to mora biti zato sto je i "Velikom rijekom uzvodno" - na srpskom. A onda ga Fibra ne sme prodavati ni u Hrvatskoj 
Svakako budalastina, tj. previse se pokusava izvuci iz necega napisanog dosta pausalno. |
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alexts
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Serbia
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Posted - 28/09/2022 : 01:03:29
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quote: Originally posted by panda
quote: Originally posted by Markos
quote: Originally posted by SPQRoma
Markose, znači ti si izvozio svoja izdanja u Srbiju bez da si to smio po ugovoru? Ili sam pogrešno razumio šta stoji u ugovoru?
Pogrešno si razumio.
Samo da se prijavim da sam i ja pogresno razumeo :)
U delu ugovora koji smo videli pise da Golconda ima ekskluzivno pravo da objavi na srpskom i svoje izdanje na Srpskom prodaje sirom sveta. Ako uvoz Fibrinog albuma ugrozava prava koja je Golconda platila, to mora biti zato sto je i "Velikom rijekom uzvodno" - na srpskom. A onda ga Fibra ne sme prodavati ni u Hrvatskoj 
Svakako budalastina, tj. previse se pokusava izvuci iz necega napisanog dosta pausalno.
Ugovor o pravima ne reguliše izvoz, nego izdavanje.
Kad bi se (teoretski) regulisao izvoz, morala bi svaka zemlja na svetu da bude obuhvaćena ugovorom, ne samo Srbija. A i svaki izvoznik. Ustvari, to bi morao biti ugovor na nivou država? |
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borg
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Serbia
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Posted - 28/09/2022 : 01:06:47
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Vader89
kako tek dosao? covek se bukv. godinu dana pre tebe regovao na forum!
Izgleda ni deset jezika ne pomaže da se pročita ono između redova.  Ajd, ne zezaj, znam da nisi bukvalista. Datumi nemaju veze sa onim što sam mu rekao. Uopšte se nije odnosilo na njegov registracioni staž na forumu. Niti mi je to palo na pamet.
A što se tiče ovog što vam nije jasno. Ja sam to ovako shvatio. Markos nije prekršio ugovor. On prodaje na teritoriji Hrvatske. A DW, AF, Delfi itd otkupljuju i uvoze u Srbiju. Golkonda onda može da tuži distributivne lance. I dobije tužbu. Al onda je pitanje saradnje sa tim striparnicama i knjižarama.
Ja mislim da Golkonda ima velikog potencijala, dobre naslove bira, malo da unapredi finalni proizvod i može solidno da se lakta na tržištu. Al što se ovog tiče, glupo davati neke komentare. Najbolje bi bilo da oni to u tišini, bez publike srede.
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panda
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Serbia
274 Posts
Member since 30/10/2011 |
Posted - 28/09/2022 : 01:15:59
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quote: Originally posted by alexts
Ugovor o pravima ne reguliše izvoz, nego izdavanje.
I ja bih pretpostavio da je tako, ali nisam strip izdavac. A pravu si, trebalo je da napisem "ako Fibrin album ugrozava prava koja je Golconda platila" bez spominjanja uvoza. |
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SPQRoma
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Italy
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sawitch
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Serbia
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Posted - 28/09/2022 : 09:29:36
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Malo mi ovo sve bezveze. Lako sam se privikao na Fibrin standard i uvek sacekam njihovo pre nego bilo koje drugo, jezik ne igra ulogu. Isto tako uzimam Golkondine trobroje pre nego Libellus. Te zezancije oko trzista na mene uopste ne uticu. Ukoliko i nekad dodje do te restrikcije, a Markos rece da nece, bilo bi mi samo teze da dodjem do svojih stripova ali nije nista neresivo. Isto tako nekom u HR do Golkondinih ili VC i sl. |
Patricia hic mea totus mundus est |
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Markos
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Croatia
29481 Posts
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Posted - 28/09/2022 : 09:52:14
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quote: Originally posted by SPQRoma
Naravno da se ugovorom reguliše i gdje može/smije da se izvozi.
Pretpostavljam onda da u Golcondinim ugovorima za Nick Raidera, Magico Vento, Natan Nevera itd itd pod teritorij isto stoji worldwide? |
Trouble will find me |
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DiSkAcH
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Croatia
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Lord Vader89
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France
9618 Posts
Member since 05/07/2007 |
Posted - 28/09/2022 : 10:16:33
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quote: Originally posted by borg
quote: Originally posted by Lord Vader89
kako tek dosao? covek se bukv. godinu dana pre tebe regovao na forum!
Izgleda ni deset jezika ne pomaže da se pročita ono između redova.  Ajd, ne zezaj, znam da nisi bukvalista. Datumi nemaju veze sa onim što sam mu rekao. Uopšte se nije odnosilo na njegov registracioni staž na forumu. Niti mi je to palo na pamet.
o borže, pa ne možeš tako da posluješ po forumu, ćitajući tako i učitavajuci samo ono što tebi odgovara u datom kontekstu! |
Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku: Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D. |
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Odoakar
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Posted - 28/09/2022 : 10:16:36
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Nego, jesu ugovori o licencnim pravima javno dostupni? Jer mene tu najviše čudi da vlasnik licence koji ima jedan ugovor s Fibrom drugoj firmi govori detalje tog ugovora... |
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mmihoci
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Posted - 28/09/2022 : 10:40:59
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quote: Originally posted by Odoakar
Nego, jesu ugovori o licencnim pravima javno dostupni? Jer mene tu najviše čudi da vlasnik licence koji ima jedan ugovor s Fibrom drugoj firmi govori detalje tog ugovora...
Da li je nešto tajno ili ne, bi također trebalo biti dio Ugovora. Pogledaj samo svoj Ugovor o radu. |
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Odoakar
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mmihoci
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Posted - 28/09/2022 : 13:41:39
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quote: Originally posted by Odoakar
Taj dio se regulira Pravilnikom o radu i Pravilnikom o poslovnoj i profesionalnoj tajni. Barem u firmi gdje radim.
Onda imaš u svom Ugovoru o radu "naslanjanje" na neki članak u Pravilnicima o tajnosti podataka.
Mada, tajnost ne treba biti dio bilokakvog Ugovora. |
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BiDi
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Slovenia
2444 Posts
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Posted - 28/09/2022 : 13:52:20
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Prilično žalostno je da su ljudi spremni na svađu kod posla u vrijednosti od par stotina eura i nije moguć džentlmenski dogovor a svojevremeno su gubili 100.000e eura u distribuciji kot striparnica i knjižara. |
Tako mi mlijeka u prahu, kidam naljevo |
Edited by - BiDi on 28/09/2022 13:54:58 |
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Markos
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Croatia
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Posted - 28/09/2022 : 15:14:45
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Što reći, koju posluku porati? Žalosno je samo da ti iz tih činjenica koje si naveo ne možeš shvatiti da nije u pitanju novac nego princip. Golconda bi zabranila Fibri ono što sama radi: prodaju svog izdanja u susjednoj zemlji, gdje netko drugi ima prava. Ali, kao, oni imaju worldwide prava, pa oni mogu. Dobro, ja nisam tražio worldwide prava jer nisam mislio da mi trebaju, ali to ionako ne košta ništa, sad ću ih dobiti i kraj priče. Džentlmenski dogovor? Pa ja sam pustio Golcondi da prodaje i "Zaliv kanua" i "Svi do poslednjeg" u Hrvatskoj. Iako su ih objavili su prije mene, iako ja imam prava za Hr. Nisam ni A rekao, uredno su bila u prodaji, i još uvijek jesu. Ako to nije džentlemenski, što onda jest? |
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petarStripovi10
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Croatia
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logo111
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Croatia
2841 Posts
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Posted - 28/09/2022 : 15:54:46
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
Golconda bi zabranila Fibri ono što sama radi: prodaju svog izdanja u susjednoj zemlji, gdje netko drugi ima prava.
Ma samo neka prodaju. I tako po kvaliteti izdanja nisu neka ozbiljna konkurencija hrvatskim izdavačima s kojima se preklapaju u programu - Fibri i Libellusu. |
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jaki
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Croatia
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Posted - 28/09/2022 : 16:07:36
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
quote: Originally posted by SPQRoma
Naravno da se ugovorom reguliše i gdje može/smije da se izvozi.
Pretpostavljam onda da u Golcondinim ugovorima za Nick Raidera, Magico Vento, Natan Nevera itd itd pod teritorij isto stoji worldwide?
Tuše |
Ja sam fetišist papira! |
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alaniusfordius
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Posted - 28/09/2022 : 16:18:39
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quote: Originally posted by logo111
quote: Originally posted by Markos
Golconda bi zabranila Fibri ono što sama radi: prodaju svog izdanja u susjednoj zemlji, gdje netko drugi ima prava.
Ma samo neka prodaju. I tako po kvaliteti izdanja nisu neka ozbiljna konkurencija hrvatskim izdavačima s kojima se preklapaju u programu - Fibri i Libellusu.
J*bte nisu konkurencija Libelusu - nisu jer ni ne pokusavaju Boneli u tvrdim koricama - a celi forum place za kiosk Mister Noom od prve epizode hronoloski, Mister Noa nigde ga nema.
Daj Markose uzmi pilota i da to skinemo sa dnevnog reda |
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sumohrvat
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Posted - 28/09/2022 : 21:25:01
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quote: Originally posted by logo111
quote: Originally posted by Markos
Golconda bi zabranila Fibri ono što sama radi: prodaju svog izdanja u susjednoj zemlji, gdje netko drugi ima prava.
Ma samo neka prodaju. I tako po kvaliteti izdanja nisu neka ozbiljna konkurencija hrvatskim izdavačima s kojima se preklapaju u programu - Fibri i Libellusu.
Jesi siguran u to što pričaš ???? Na stranu sve ovo, ali Golconda ima vrhunski odrađene stripove. I po pitanju dizajna i po pitanju prevoda i po pitanju papira,uveza.... I to mogu potvrditi svi koji su od njih uzeli makar jedan strip. |
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logo111
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Croatia
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Posted - 28/09/2022 : 21:38:15
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quote: Originally posted by sumohrvat
quote: Originally posted by logo111
quote: Originally posted by Markos
Golconda bi zabranila Fibri ono što sama radi: prodaju svog izdanja u susjednoj zemlji, gdje netko drugi ima prava.
Ma samo neka prodaju. I tako po kvaliteti izdanja nisu neka ozbiljna konkurencija hrvatskim izdavačima s kojima se preklapaju u programu - Fibri i Libellusu.
Jesi siguran u to što pričaš ???? Na stranu sve ovo, ali Golconda ima vrhunski odrađene stripove. I po pitanju dizajna i po pitanju prevoda i po pitanju papira,uveza.... I to mogu potvrditi svi koji su od njih uzeli makar jedan strip.
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zeljko
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 28/09/2022 : 21:39:29
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Ja sam za realnu kapitalisticku bitku dvije tvrtke i nek jaca i sposobnija pobijedi Ali poslije nema suplje mi to radimo tbog vas Ne radite...to nije osnov kapitalizma |
Utabanim stazama ocaja! |
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sumohrvat
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Posted - 28/09/2022 : 21:57:38
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quote: Originally posted by logo111
quote: Originally posted by sumohrvat
quote: Originally posted by logo111
quote: Originally posted by Markos
Golconda bi zabranila Fibri ono što sama radi: prodaju svog izdanja u susjednoj zemlji, gdje netko drugi ima prava.
Ma samo neka prodaju. I tako po kvaliteti izdanja nisu neka ozbiljna konkurencija hrvatskim izdavačima s kojima se preklapaju u programu - Fibri i Libellusu.
Jesi siguran u to što pričaš ???? Na stranu sve ovo, ali Golconda ima vrhunski odrađene stripove. I po pitanju dizajna i po pitanju prevoda i po pitanju papira,uveza.... I to mogu potvrditi svi koji su od njih uzeli makar jedan strip.
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Pričaš potpune gluposti... Ili nisi držao u ruci niti jedan njihov strip ili si samo pokvarena osoba.... Vjerovatno i jedno i drugo. Ljudi rade više nego dobre stripove bez obzira na ovu sada epizodu. |
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logo111
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Croatia
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Posted - 28/09/2022 : 22:12:15
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quote: Originally posted by sumohrvat
quote: Originally posted by logo111
quote: Originally posted by sumohrvat
quote: Originally posted by logo111
quote: Originally posted by Markos
Golconda bi zabranila Fibri ono što sama radi: prodaju svog izdanja u susjednoj zemlji, gdje netko drugi ima prava.
Ma samo neka prodaju. I tako po kvaliteti izdanja nisu neka ozbiljna konkurencija hrvatskim izdavačima s kojima se preklapaju u programu - Fibri i Libellusu.
Jesi siguran u to što pričaš ???? Na stranu sve ovo, ali Golconda ima vrhunski odrađene stripove. I po pitanju dizajna i po pitanju prevoda i po pitanju papira,uveza.... I to mogu potvrditi svi koji su od njih uzeli makar jedan strip.
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Pričaš potpune gluposti... Ili nisi držao u ruci niti jedan njihov strip ili si samo pokvarena osoba.... Vjerovatno i jedno i drugo. Ljudi rade više nego dobre stripove bez obzira na ovu sada epizodu.
Laki malo si mi nervozan...ili ti se samo opet utvaraju prevare na aukcijama 
Već ako nisi čitao moje ranije postove, a vezano za moje primjedbe mogao si prije nego dođeš "trkeljati" po forumu da pročitaš barem stranicu, dvije ovog topica a vezano za tehničke primjedbe koje su kupci primijetili. To ti je znaš, opća kultura na forumu.
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Edited by - logo111 on 28/09/2022 22:12:49 |
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