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REJS
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Posted - 13/10/2020 :  19:25:15  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit REJS's Homepage  Send REJS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Met Meriot je naziv za najruznije pakovanje,jednog od najboljih stripova.
Ko god kaze da je Met los strip,taj moze slobodno da se uracuna u zvezdu Granda i pratioca Sela koje gori.
Strip sam citao prvi put sa 15 godina,vise puta pre toga izbegavao da ga uzmem u ruke ,zbog odbojnog crtaza,ali kada sam ga konacno procitao,sta reci ???
Remek delo,dubok,mocan,pravi,realan,najbolji...
Tako je isto prolazio nesrecni Ken Parker,pljuvan i osporavan,a dao je nesto najlepse svetu stripa ikada.
Duboki naklon za Meta i Kena koji su zavirili u ojudsku dusu popuy velikana Gi De Mopasana i Dostojevskog...a vi koji smatrate da je to sranje...citajte Sabor i Skandal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5qbvnqMClk

Izbacite Facepalm sprecite sukobe,givnite sansu miru !!!



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jaki
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Posted - 13/10/2020 :  19:55:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
s kime se ti svađaš?
loše nacrtan?
https://www.comicartfans.com/galleryroom.asp?gsub=66962

Ja sam fetišist papira!
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velka031
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Posted - 13/10/2020 :  20:02:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send velka031 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nikada nisam čitao Meta...
Nadam se da će se to ubrzo promijeniti i da će netko od izdavača izdati ovaj serijal.
Koliko ima epizoda?
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delboj
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Posted - 13/10/2020 :  20:22:53  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send delboj a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by velka031

Nikada nisam čitao Meta...
Nadam se da će se to ubrzo promijeniti i da će netko od izdavača izdati ovaj serijal.
Koliko ima epizoda?


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going going
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Posted - 13/10/2020 :  20:26:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send going going a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zasto je ovaj topik u podforumu Prijedlozi, komentari, kritike umesto u nekom gore pripadajucem?
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delboj
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Posted - 13/10/2020 :  20:54:11  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send delboj a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by going going

Zasto je ovaj topik u podforumu Prijedlozi, komentari, kritike umesto u nekom gore pripadajucem?


Pa kritikuju se oni koji smatraju Meta Meriota lošim stripom.
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velka031
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Posted - 13/10/2020 :  21:55:41  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send velka031 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by delboj

quote:
Originally posted by velka031

Nikada nisam čitao Meta...
Nadam se da će se to ubrzo promijeniti i da će netko od izdavača izdati ovaj serijal.
Koliko ima epizoda?


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Peyo
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Posted - 13/10/2020 :  22:49:07  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Peyo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Matt Marriott mi je privukao pažnju otprve u ZS i svidio mi se kroz odličnu priču i zanimljiv stil crtanja.

Na forumu je otvaran i topic:

http://forum.stripovi.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5359
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solar
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Posted - 13/10/2020 :  23:17:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send solar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by going going

Zasto je ovaj topik u podforumu Prijedlozi, komentari, kritike umesto u nekom gore pripadajucem?


Čijoj školi Met Meriot pripada?

"tinton je bio u pravu!"
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jaki
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Posted - 14/10/2020 :  01:39:53  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
engleskoj,linčino

Ja sam fetišist papira!
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lwood
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Posted - 14/10/2020 :  06:13:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by velka031

Nikada nisam čitao Meta...
Nadam se da će se to ubrzo promijeniti i da će netko od izdavača izdati ovaj serijal.
Koliko ima epizoda?

ja san čita par epizoda , ništa posebno. Usporedba sa KP uopće ne stoji.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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ivanl
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Posted - 14/10/2020 :  07:47:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ivanl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Okej strip sa jako dobrim crtezom. Sluzio je nekad za popunjavanje prostora i 'nabildavanje' stranica. Nikakve poveznice ni u natruhi usporedbe sa Ken Parkerom nema.
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Anto_123
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Posted - 14/10/2020 :  19:24:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Anto_123 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nikada mi niti jedan nije došao pod ruku pa ne bih komentirao jer sam svojevremeno pisao kako mi se Ken nije svidio, dok sam bio klinjo.a sada kada je SA/Fibra izdala ove mekokorične trobrojeve, dao sam mu šansu i nisam požalio
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kasper
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Posted - 14/10/2020 :  19:30:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send kasper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
'de si rejs, vraze matori
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 14/10/2020 :  20:15:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Peyo

Matt Marriott mi je privukao pažnju otprve u ZS i svidio mi se kroz odličnu priču i zanimljiv stil crtanja.

Na forumu je otvaran i topic:

http://forum.stripovi.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5359



Postoji još jedna tema:

http://forum.stripovi.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=45563

Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins
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delboj
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Posted - 14/10/2020 :  20:30:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send delboj a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pa ima i tema u popisima. Ja sam to popisivao, upoređivano je s izdanjima na drugim jezicima.
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Jozzinelli
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Posted - 15/10/2020 :  00:08:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Jozzinelli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by REJS

Met Meriot je naziv za najruznije pakovanje,jednog od najboljih stripova.


Jel' to misliš na onaj ogromni piratski integral u kom su sakupljene valjda sve epizode,
koji sam video prošle godine na Sajmu knjiga u Beogradu, ili na neko drugo pakovanje?

quote:
Originally posted by REJS

a vi koji smatrate da je to sranje...citajte Sabor i Skandal.


Evo, ja sam čitao Sabor, ne znam da li si i ti ili govoriš napamet, ali do 1990. je to bila dobra revija
u kojoj je imalo dosta zanimljivog za pročitati, do 100-tog broja je u njemu čak izlazio i strip Lepi Drda Miloša Krnjetina.

A Meta sam prvi put pročitao pre par godina u Strip Magazinu i imam prilično dobro mišljenje o njemu na osnovu te jedne epizode,
ali bi ipak bilo dobro da pročitam još koju kako bih ga preciznije rangirao. Za sada mi je ipak Ves Slejd broj jedan britanskog western stripa.
Met Meriot svakako spada u specifične, "realne" westerne, samo što se zbog nedostatka dinamičnosti radnje,
na koju smo navikli u standardnim stripovima ovog žanra, može desiti da nekima deluje dosadno.

Evo mojih utisaka od pre 2 godine u vezi pročitane epizode.

Met Meriot (Matt Marriott) - Na opasnom putu (Strip Magazin 26)

Prvi put da pročitam epizodu ovog junaka.
Ispostavilo se da je ovo najstarija epizoda (iz 1959) objavljena kod nas.
Utisak je dosta pozitivan.

Nisam do sada nailazio na strip koji tako realno prikazuje život kauboja u pravom smislu te reči - goniča goveda.
Nešto najbliže tome je druga epizoda Komanče - Ratnici očaja, u kojoj Red i ostala ekipa imaju problem sa gladnim Indijancima.
U ovom stripu se pak prikazuje upravo gonjenje goveda od Teksasa za Kanzas i sve nedaće koje su snalazile kauboje na tom dugom putu.

Vrlo verovatno da je epizoda inspirisana filmom Red River, koji, na svoju sramotu, nisam gledao, pa ne znam kolike su sličnosti u detaljima.
Uglavnom, i ovde imamo dva jaka karaktera, glavnog junaka Meriota i vođu goniča Voltera, stalno suprotstavljenih stavova,
a ipak puni poštovanja jedan prema drugom. U ovoj priči čak deluje da je sporedni protagonista, predvodnik kauboja,
glavni junak serijala, a ne Meriot. Takvom utisku, između ostalog, doprinosi i to što Met Meriot nije vizuelno markantan,
za razliku od druga dva čuvena britanska vestern junaka - Meta Dilona i Vesa Slejda.
U celoj epizodi ima vrlo malo prikazanog izgleda glavnog junaka u krupnom planu,
jedva sam uspeo da pronađem par kadrova u kojima se jasno vidi njegov lik.



Ovde je zajedno sa Metom i njegov pratilac - Horn Pauder.



Posebno realno je u priči prikazan odnos sa Indijancima. Za razliku od stripova gde se odmah poteže oružje,
ovde su kauboji prinuđeni na razne kompromise sa njima, oružje im je tek poslednja opcija, koja je u ovom slučaju izostala.
Iako su im Indijanci ukrali konje i tom prilikom čak ubili dečaka koji je bio zadužen da ih čuva,
na kraju su morali da pređu preko svega i još im daju novac za prelaz preko njihove teritorije.

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ninel
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Posted - 15/10/2020 :  09:10:53  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ninel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jao brate, pa Ves Slejd se uopšte ne može usporedjivati sa Metom Meriotom, koji je bar par klasa bolji.
Met Meriot je crtački sjajan, sigurno najbolji od svih engleskih novinskih stripova, pogotovo vesterna
a i scenaristički je iako malkice staromodan sasvim OK, ono kao neki socialni vestern.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSRVtlTwFs8&feature=related
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ivanl
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Posted - 15/10/2020 :  12:26:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ivanl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jozzinelli, koji je to veliki pirat Meta Meriota sa svim epizodama? Imas li to? Ako da, moze li slika? Ili netko drugi tko ima, moze li slika i kad je to izdano?
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REJS
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Posted - 15/10/2020 :  18:28:53  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit REJS's Homepage  Send REJS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Malo sam bio ponesen,vredjanjem na temu Meta Meriota.
Stvarno ne stoji da je to los strip,nije samo imao srece u Zlatnoj Seriji,cak mislim da su izbutali redosled strana i napravili pometnju.
Ali uz sve to procitajte epizodu Veliki Brat,tacno je da nije Ken Parker,ali je duboko dodirnuo temu ljudske duse,i to na tada pravi nacin.
Za razliku od danasnjeg,modernog i reklamnog,siguran sam da bi Met doziveo uapeh,samo da je imao priliku za bolje i kvalitetnije izdanje.
Nadam se da ce ga neko objaviti,onako kako je on zasluzio.
Pa onda mozemo suditi da li je ovo junak za popunjavanje rupa.
Po meni najveci promasaji su Tajanstveni Alan ili Roki Dzo a Traper Kero je na srecu ili nesrecu ostao mi i legenda jer je doziveo samo oko 20 epizoda,po meni najboljeg sporednog stripa,svih vremena.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5qbvnqMClk

Izbacite Facepalm sprecite sukobe,givnite sansu miru !!!


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jaki
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Posted - 15/10/2020 :  19:12:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
TONY WEARE by David Lloyd


The late Tony Weare drew Matt Marriott in the London Evening News from 1957 to1977. Written by Jim Edgar, it was the finest and most atmospheric newspaper strip about the American Wild West that has ever been produced.Tony was one of just a very few strip artists here and in the US whose creative identities owed nothing to the heritage of stylisation which influenced many other newspaper adventure strip creators - he was primarily an illustrator who just happened to love drawing strips.His style on Marriott was that of a sketch artist - a portrayer of the instant. It was naturalistic, raw, and unsophisticated - perfect for depicting the primitive quality of a realistic-looking Wild West. One of his major strengths as a strip artist lay in his consistently creative compositions. If we look through the three-frame strips that make up the Matt Marriott stories we see no evidence of the repeated formulas of picture design which some strip artists use. Because of the sheer weight of material most of these craftsmen have to produce , easy options in picture composition are often sought by them and repeated to ease the burden of emitting a constant stream of new layouts ; but when we look at Tony's work it's as if we're just watching people going about their business through a lens that he has cleverly positioned for us, not viewing figures which are overtly posed for appropriate effect. The way he rendered his drawings reflected this 'realistic' approach to portraying the action, with almost lazily handled brush work and pen cross-hatching. He also had a superb command of light and shade, which promoted the impression that he was drawing something he could see in front of him, rather than something he'd built up from his imagination.The only things Tony ever hated drawing were mechanical objects of any kind, though this antipathy is very difficult for any viewer to detect. As a lifelong nature lover he preferred to draw the organic. This passion for depicting living things above all else, is what gives Tony's work the energy which shines from almost everything he put his brush to. Like all the best artists, he sought to draw only what he loved to draw.

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jaki
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Posted - 15/10/2020 :  19:55:26  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
https://thecribsheet-isabelinho.blogspot.com/2019/03/monthly-stumblings-18-james-edgar-tony.html?m=1

Ja sam fetišist papira!
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alexts
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Posted - 15/10/2020 :  21:10:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jaki

https://thecribsheet-isabelinho.blogspot.com/2019/03/monthly-stumblings-18-james-edgar-tony.html?m=1



Mislim da nisam (ili se ne sećam da sam) čitao Meta Meriota. Ali, evo sad nađoh jednu epizodu u Strip Magazinu, pa kad uhvatim vreme.

Tekst sa ovog linka mi je odmah zapao za oko sa "newspaper comic strip like “The Cisco Kid” among the worst…", pa i ostali vrednosni sud uzimam sa rezervom.

Jose Luis Salinas je svakako bolji crtač od Tony Weare. Weare je vrlo dobar crtač, koji je unosio maksimalan trud u crno-beli ilustratorski pristup crtanju, ali je Salinas genijalac.

Što se scenarija tiče, ne mogu ništa da kažem, jer još nisam čitao, sem sledećeg - realističan vestern za odrasle nije nužno uvek bolji od drugih, samo zbog svog pristupa. Maksimalno nerealističan, zabavni vestern može da bude bolji od neke realistične ili angažovane priče.

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alexts
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Posted - 15/10/2020 :  21:13:51  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
S obzirom da su originali uništeni i da se M.M. ne preštampava, logično je da se prvenstveno ističu kvaliteti, ne bi li se nekako spasao od zaborava (nekim izdanjem).
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ninel
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Posted - 15/10/2020 :  22:56:42  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ninel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alexts
Jose Luis Salinas je svakako bolji crtač od Tony Weare.


Nije! Ali ipak nije umetnost takmičenje, pa ko je bolji.
Strip je umetnost. Imaš stotinu (ili pak hiljadu) sjajnih crtača, koji svako crta u svom stilu.
I svako je odličan.
Ipak je kod Wearea i Salinasa razlika u tome, što je prvi umetnik, a drugi je zanatlija.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSRVtlTwFs8&feature=related
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alexts
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Posted - 15/10/2020 :  23:03:53  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I što je Salinas za klasu i po bolji.
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