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solar
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going going
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Serbia
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Posted - 02/09/2017 : 22:57:47
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Odlicna vest za Điđija sto je u boji. Sad gledam njegov rad na Kasidiju neverovatno kako je napredovao, na Kasidiju mi je bio vrlo dobar ali bilo je boljih crtaca na serijalu, nikad ne bih rekao da Kasidijevu epizdou ,,Ratnici" i Mater Dolorsa crta isti covek.
Nadam se da ce valjati ta nova edicija, ne svidja mi se sto ce Sclavi, po svemu sudeci, pisati samo prve 3 epizode a posle nastavlja neko drugi. Mada nista ne znamo o ovoj ediciji jos uvek je prerano za pricu o mogucem kvalitetu. |
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solar
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going going
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Posted - 03/09/2017 : 15:17:55
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Ne znam sta da dodam jer je sve vec receno u recenziji i komentarima. Sjajna prica u svakom pogledu.
Inace ovo mi je bio prvi Dilan Dog sto sam ga procitao jos kao klinac sam ga pronasao zajedno sa ostalim DD koje je izdao Vanini zatrpane iza brda Alan Fordova kod mog brata u sobi, on je oduvek i najvise bio Alan Fordovac dok za Bonelli i nije bio toliko vezan.
Sada na ponovno citanje posle ko zna koliko godina 11, 12(?) me je potpuno odusevila. Nisam ocekivao takav smer price, da ce se mnogo vise fokusirati na hipnozu i psihoanalizu Whiteya i njegovog izmucenog i napacenog detinjstva a da su vanzemaljci i svemir samo metafora za skrivene dubine beskonacnosti naseg uma. Mada na kraju su se ipak pojavili vanzemaljci ili ne? To je na nama da sami prosudimo.
Knedla mi je zastala u grlu na sceni izmedju majke i Whiteyevog mladjeg brata, vrlo potresno.
Brindisi odlican, detaljniji i mracniji nego kasnije u karijeri.
Odlicna je i Stanova naslovna strana.
Prica za pamcenje i medju najboljima sto sam je procitao na DD.
Samo me interesuje koji je prevod ispravan: Uzas iz beskraja ili Uzas beskonacnosti? |
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supermark
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Jocko
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Posted - 03/09/2017 : 17:44:09
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I meni je to bio prvi Dilan. Jeziva priča. Nema tu mnogo krvi, ali odnos između oca i sinova, oca i majke, majke i deteta... Strahota. Pa vanzemaljac koji iglom čeprka po mozgu, psihoanaliza kod onog Dilanovog prijatelja, ponor u ludilo na početku, šetnja u ''svemiru'', Dosije X atmosfera, u vreme kada se ista serija uveliko davala na TVu (a originalno je izašao i pre)...
Jedna od onih inteligentnih, pa još i dobro ispričanih epizoda.
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going going
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Serbia
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Posted - 03/09/2017 : 17:55:21
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quote: Originally posted by supermark
I nije neka razlikq Beskraj i beskonačnost su ionako sinonimi
Saglasan sam da su sinonimi, ali mi se cini da nije isti smisao kada se kaze Uzas iz beskraja i Uzas beskraja odnosno beskonacnosti.
U prvom slucaju vise naginje na nesto sto je doslo iz beskonacnosti, a u drugom na uzas same beskonacnosti.
@Jocko, potpuno se slazem. |
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Mhejl
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Posted - 04/09/2017 : 00:39:57
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"Užas iz beskraja" mi je toliko draga epizoda - da je to teško opisati... čak i Brindizijev crtež, koji inače ne volim, mi ovdje ne smeta.
Možda i najbolja čisto "psihološka" DD epizoda. Sa jedne strane, jako dobar prikaz nastojanja ljudskog uma da kroz simbole, pomjeranja, lažna sjećanja, razne aktivnosti, pobjegne od bolnih iskustava i istine, dakle riječ je o očajničkoj aktivnosti da se porekne, zaboravi, izgradi drugačija slika svijeta. Da, NLO estetika i atmosfera jesu bitne za epizodu, ali ispod njih, kao i u priči, leži dublja istina, ona cjelovita i potpuna, za koju mi najčešće nemamo senzibilitet. Čak i za ljude sa relativno normalnim djetinjstvom povratak u te dane, i pravljenje paralela između onoga što je proživljeno i ugrađeno u nas i našeg ponašanja danas, predstavlja neprijatan zadatak. Previše puta pronađemo da je naš karakter, pogled na život, sreća ili nesreća sama mnogo manje plod onog slobodnog izbora koji zamišljamo kada krčimo put kroz život. Ili, u ekstremnim slučajevima... srećete jasnu liniju patologije i loših životnih situacija sve do kraha i čovjeka koji sjedi ispred vas, u kome se nešta slomilo i nagnalo ga da traži pomoć jer ne može više da drži ravnotežu života i svog unutrašnjeg svijeta.
Ali NLO, da se vratimo na temu epizode, NIJE samo dezen i estetika i referenca na X-fajlove, već se jako dobro uklapa u poruku o složenosti ljudskog uma. Toliko nepoznatog - da je poput dubokog kosmosa. Istražili smo fizičku stvarnost, i napredujemo u njenom poznavanju, ali nismo ostvarili filozofski savjet SPOZNAJ SAMOG SEBE. Tačnije, ne interesuje nas refleksija, ne razmišljamo o sebi i istinskim razlozima svoga ponašanja, ili počnemo sa tim tek kada stvari pređu preko crvene linije.
Da, ovo je jedna od DD epizoda koja me je i stavila na put interesovanja za psihu, ljudski um, duboke procese, prave razloge ljudskog ponašanja... ali i mentalnu bolest, patnju, crnilo. Uz specijal "Snove" i još nekoliko njih. |
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going going
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Serbia
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Posted - 04/09/2017 : 00:48:31
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Pa de si do sad Mhejl druze! Slazem se sa tvojim tekstom u potpunosti.
Nadam se da na sledeci tvoj post necemo morati dugo da cekamo, mogao bi i neki dnevnik citanja da padne aktuelnih novih epizoda ili starih, potpuno je svejedno. |
Edited by - going going on 04/09/2017 00:48:55 |
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Mhejl
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Posted - 04/09/2017 : 01:09:17
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Da, i meni je žao što nemam prilike da češće pišem, jer je ovaj period dosta naporan što se tiče obaveza. Mada, vidm da i ekipa na temi piše jako dobre osvrte. 
U zadnje vrijeme, ono što sam od novih Dilana čitao jeste - "Osuđen na zemlju" i Ćelonijeve "Jesenje skitače". O prvoj epizodi sam htio da nešta napišem, ali mi je u konačnici ipak previše banalna, besmislena, da ne kažem glupa. A DelUomov crtež je tek zlodjelo.
Sad, Jesenji skitači su jedan od natprosječnih novijih Dilana, besprekorno i divno nacrtani, iako je priča donekle konfuzna, kao što napisah na DW. Ponovo sam ih pročitao doduše i neke stvari su bolje legle na svoje mjesto, tako da bi se o njima i dalo pisati. Podsjetili su me, najviše, na Something Wicked This Way Comes Reja Bredberija - knjigu koju bi trebao da pročitao svako ko voli i cijeni kvalitetan stil pisanja - i na par scena u mangi Gyo Junjija Ita. |
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solar
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Posted - 04/09/2017 : 01:15:25
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quote: Da, i meni je žao što nemam prilike da češće pišem, jer je ovaj period dosta naporan što se tiče obaveza.
Znači nema nade za one recenzije "Iskupljenja samuraja" ili "Cvjetova pokolja"? |
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mladjo
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Posted - 05/09/2017 : 21:02:40
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Pročitao sam još Rođen za ubijanje, Superosjetilni opažaji, Bog u tamnici, Savršeni svijet, Urlatorica, Pasji otok, Preživjeti u raju, Rijeka zaborava i Zrcalo duše (DD LU od 80 pa do 91, neke sam preskočio jer sam ih čitao nedavno) i sve osim Zrcala duše su samo čitljive i ništa više. Ova zadnja je stvarno ok (Barbato) makar i ona ima mana.
E sad dosta zezancije, o ostalim epizodama treba nešto i napisati :D |
COUNT ZERO INTERRUPT an interrupt of a process decrements a counter to zero
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Posted - 05/09/2017 : 22:34:13
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Nije mi jasno, jel ovaj Sclavi-Stano rad ide u redovnoj seriji? Posto se pominju 114 strana i izlazak sledeceg meseca. |
Bistro i duboko nebo utociste pruza! |
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