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31. DAN NOĆI: The Sect (La Setta, aka The Devil's Daughter, aka Demoni 4, 1991., Michele Soavi)
The Sect je znan i kao Demoni 4, iako je to bio već 6. film koji se službeno/neslužbeno povezivao sa tom serijom filmova koji uglavnom jedan sa drugim nemaju puno veze. Film iz te poluslužbene serije sa kojim The Sect ima veze je The Church (aka Demoni 3) iz 1989. (kojeg sam pogledao i komentirao u sklopu prošlogodišnjeg maratona). Veza nije u samoj radnji već u tome da je oba filma režirao Michele Soavi, koji je napisao i scenarij zajedno sa Dariom Argentom, koji je i producent.
Premda se radnja Sekte ne nastavlja na radnju Crkve, ima dosta sličnosti između dva filma: ugođaj, stil, naslanjanje na katoličku simboliku, itd.
Sekta mi je bolji film. Scenarij prethodnog filma je prepravljan više puta od strane raznih ljudi u hodu tijekom snimanja i to se osjeti. Sekta je fokusiranija i dojma sam da je Soavi ovdje imao slobodnije ruke da realizira svoju viziju. I dalje je to talijanski giallo horror, pa nemojte očekivati baš pretjerano paženje na logiku i objašnjavanje stvari. No Sekta je audio-vizualno ekstravagantno režiran film. Šteta što ga nisam imao priliku gledati u kinu gdje bi njegova hiper-osjetilnost još više došla do izražaja: kamera koja non-stop mikroskopski zumira, glasno pojačani zvukovi škripe dasaka ili odvoda cijevi (u koje kamera i ulazi), neobični kutevi kamere i svjetla izazivaju konstantni udar na osjetila. Sekta je točno ona vrsta mokrog sna kojim je inspiriran francusko-belgijski dvojac Hélène Cattet i Bruno Forzani koji snima suvremene giallo tribute (Amer, The Strange Colour of Your Body's Tears).

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Shaner
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Posted - 15/10/2018 : 16:31:33
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quote: Originally posted by vukozec
Sekta je točno ona vrsta mokrog sna kojim je inspiriran francusko-belgijski dvojac Hélène Cattet i Bruno Forzani koji snima suvremene giallo tribute (Amer, The Strange Colour of Your Body's Tears).
Čitajući tvoj komentar pomislio sam upravo na njih. Ništa, Sekta ide na listu. 
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Posted - 15/10/2018 : 17:04:56
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Na PTP-u je 24satni freelech na sve nove uploade u žanru horora i trilera. Pa, ko voli, nek izvoli. |
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Posted - 15/10/2018 : 17:05:44
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najbolji talijanski horori
1. SUSPIRIA – D. Argento 2. BEYOND THE DARKNESS aka BURIED ALIVE –A.Massacessi 3. THE CHURCH –M. Soavi 4. CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST –R. Deodato 5. PHENOMENA –D. Argento 6. OPERA –D. Argento 7. DELLAMORTE DELLAMORE –M. Soavi 8. ZOMBI –L. Fulci 9. THE BEYOND –L. Fulci 10. DEEP RED –D. Argento 11. TENEBRAE –D. Argento 12. SHOCK –M. Bava 13. MASK OF THE DEMON –M. Bava 14. INFERNO –D. Argento 15. ZEDER –P. Avati 16. THE HOUSE WITH THE WINDOWS THAT LAUGH -P. Avati 17. MACABRO –L. Bava 18. DEMONS –L. Bava 19. THE BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL PLUMAGE–D. Argento 20. BLACK SABBATH – M. Bava 21. THE HOUSE BY THE CEMETERY – L. Fulci 22. STAGE FRIGHT –M. Soavi 23. CITY OF THE LIVING DEAD – L. Fulci 24. KILL BABY KILL -M. Bava 25. THE WHIP AND THE BODY –M. Bava |
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Posted - 15/10/2018 : 20:36:39
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nema je jer sam je pogledao tek 30.4.2009. a ovo je spisak od mnogo ranije nemam živaca uspoređivati... i ovo nije moj spisak nego sam ga preuzeo sa znakasagite.com i malo doradio
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Posted - 15/10/2018 : 23:59:31
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Policajac manijak/Maniac cop (1988) Koji blast tu the past čovječe :D Ovo sam gledao kao klinac i bio mi je odličan film, točno se sjećam nekih scena, tipa kraja ili one ženske iz arhive. Danas taj film, naravno, izgleda totalno drukčije. Riječ je o trashy filmu iz osamdesetih gdje su atmosferičnost, horror elementi i akcija limitirane kvalitete. Ipak, ono što treba spomenuti je glumac Robert D'Zar. Taj lik je jednostavno rođen da glumi manijake svih vrsta, oblika i profesija :D Inače u filmu glumi i Bruce campbell, a to uopće nisam bio skužio :D
 Robert D'Zar - scena je iz Tango & Casha, da ne spoilam izgled iz ovog filma :D
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Posted - 22/10/2018 : 13:34:58
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Krajnje inferioran nastavak izuzetnog i rijetko inteligentnog prvog dijela, "Starship Troopers 2" je debakl na svakom polju. I pored relativno dobre ideje -stvaranja karpenterskog horora paranoje i gubitka identiteta spram "war is hell" filozofije prvog dijela - nedostatak bilo kakve umjetničko-kreativne vještine i siromašan budžet doprinijeli su krahu filmu koji je, praktično od samog starta, bio osuđen na propast. Da, imamo nekoliko solidnih scena saspensa i horora. Da, bodi horor je u većoj mjeri iskorišćen u prvom dijelu. Da, monolog vođe buba na kraju ledi krv u žilama i daje vrlo zanimljivu perspektivu sukoba u Bug Waru.
Međutim, dimenzija satire je plitka da plića ne može biti - Verhoven je u prvom dijelu zaista shvatio kognitivne okvire i koordinate po kojima se kreću fašizam, militarizam i glorifikacija nasilja, da bi ih u potpunosti skršio iznutra, narativom koji na površini potvrđuje desničarske vrijednosti. Ovdje imamo plitko pamfletarenje, na nivou poruke kognitivne složenosti "wars and propaganda are bad, mkay?". Likovi su najobičnije kartonske kulise, više nego svjesni sopstvene klišeiziranosti i nebitnosti u mediokritetnim ambicijama ove priče. Sa druge strane, likovi u originalnom filmu - kao i čitav ton filma, uostalom - hode po tankoj liniji između ozbiljnosti i satire, vjerovanja i odbijanja ideologije Federacije, čime nas, paradoksalno, uvlače u fašističku ideologiju i otkrivaju nam sopstvenu ranjivost prema istoj. Tenzija? Upropaštena loše montiranim scenama, jeftinim CGI bubama i prenaglašavanjem ionako nesuptilnih momenata originalnog scenarija. Uporedite to sa krajnje napetim i fantastično snimljenim scenama originalnog filma, koji mu daju dimenziju zabavne akcije/Sf-horora, i pored inteligentnosti originalne satire.
Na kraju krajeva, zašto ovoliko pišem o Starship Troopersima 2, a ne o prvom dijelu? Zato što je drugi dio primjer djelovanja medijske mašinerije kojoj se prvi dio filma toliko rugao, te sudbine većine inteligentnih filmova u našem dobu. Možda i svakom dobu. Banalizovanje originalnih koncepata, jednodimenzionalnost priče, pojednostavljivanje poente, glorifikacija rata i žrtvovanja i pored nominalno kritičnog tona, jeftina zabava spram bespokoja i preispitivanja... i možda je to u redu. Subverzivnost i satiričnost i moraju biti rizični do određene mjere, "nebezbjedni" da bi imali smisla. Samo je žalosno kada su ime, sada već možemo reći, franšize, te njena vizuelna estetika sačuvani - but the brain has longe since departed. |
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Posted - 24/10/2018 : 09:40:54
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Starship trupers 2 6/10 ok filmić ne sjećam se puno ali znam da sam uživao dok sam gledao i mogao bih ga opet pogledati to mi je dovoljno da film dobije prolaznu ocjenu
čak sam i trojku pogledao koja je nešto bolja i dao sam joj 7/10
Pogledao sam THELMA ( 2017) kofol triler drama... pa i horor... kako današnje društvo ne voli SF... ovo je čisti x man... tojest science fiction... telekineza, parapsihologija upakovana u religijsku dramu o odrastanju jedne tinejdžerice u norveškoj... filmska obitelj Trier ima novog heroja |
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Posted - 28/10/2018 : 02:27:04
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Tradicionalni horror/gore freeleech na cinemageddonu. Uživajte! |
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Posted - 28/10/2018 : 13:57:20
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sva sreca prestao sam gomilati sranja jos samo da se rijesim vec nagomilanih hrpa celuloidnih govana |
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Posted - 28/10/2018 : 15:06:48
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nije istina nego zbog nedolaska nisam ja kriv što niko ne uzima filmove koje skinem i stoje tjednima osim toga ekipa s propalog foruma forumfilmkvi mi je poslala toliko cigara da sam imao ekstra racio ja sam svoje smece od 3600 filmova odd toga 1270 horora nabavio u razmjenama
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Posted - 28/10/2018 : 16:25:47
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Onda je to bilo kad se tribalo ponovno logirat ima par godina čini mi se. Šta sad to zoveš smećem. Baš si "grub i čudan forumaš", da kvotam tebe.
Sad te cigare i ne možeš zaminit za ratio, ako se ne varam. Ko je jamio, jamio je. |
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Edited by - vice on 28/10/2018 16:31:10 |
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