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Rock.Bob Rock
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Posted - 13/01/2010 : 15:04:36
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Ispada da ja jedini ovdje nisam pročitao "Ja sam legenda". Ovaj zadnji film mi je bio baš dobar, jel to dobro ili loše 
Inače, pročitao: Herbert-Dina, Wyndham-Dan trifida Čita se: Herbert-Mesija Dine, Wiliamson-Humanoidi (Wiliamson? Čini mi se, tako nekako, ne da mi se sad gledati) |
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sawitch
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Posted - 13/01/2010 : 16:45:42
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Ako ce te utesiti, nisam ni ja procitao Ja sam legenda... Ali odgledao sam film i ta tematika me apsolutno ne privlaci... Tako da ne verujem da cu je ikad procitati... |
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Dzimi Gitara
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Posted - 13/01/2010 : 16:55:42
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quote: Originally posted by sawitch
quote: Originally posted by kreŠa
Nakon odlicnog Konstantinovog raskrsca,
Znaci zadovoljan si Konstantinovim raskrscem?!?! I ja sam cuo da je dobra knjiga, i mislio da li da je narucim ili ne, i ipak sam se opredelio za nesto drugo...
Konstantinovo raskrsce ima sve moje preporuke. Srpska istorija, nacisti, vampiri... recepta za bestseler uspeh, ali veoma pametno napisano. Inace, ne znam koliko vas zna, Dejan Stojiljkovic je clan ovog foruma, Dexa Pantelejski. Inace i autor legendarnog stripa Extra Gedza. Covek je za Konstantinovo raskrsce dobio nagradu Milos Crnjanski, a sada je i u najuzem izboru za Ninovu nagradu. Pa posto smo proslavljali uspehe drugih forumasa u bodibildingu i ostalom, eto red je da se i ovo pomene. |
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sawitch
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Posted - 13/01/2010 : 17:05:19
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Sta sve ima na ovom forumu... Poznati pisci, crtaci, umetnici, sportisti, politicari, ja nobelovac... Jeeeee.. A to znaci da cemo moci dobiti i posvetu od coveka... Extra.. Ako ga znas, reci mu da nam se javi malo ovde.... |
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Dzimi Gitara
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sawitch
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Posted - 13/01/2010 : 17:16:10
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Pu, ispasce da moram poceti da locem da bih se uklopio sa ljudima... A knjiga mi je sledeca za kupovinu... Sto posto.. |
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Dzimi Gitara
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sawitch
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Posted - 13/01/2010 : 17:23:38
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Ja od knjige i ocekujem zabavu i da me drzi do kraja... A ne da saznajem ko zna kakve stvari.. Upisao bih jos jedan fakultet da me interesuje prosirenje znanja 
Znaci od sledece plate uzimam sigurno to.. Svaki mesec tri knjige su minimum... |
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Dzimi Gitara
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vope
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Posted - 13/01/2010 : 19:49:47
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Zbirka priča iz Hainskog ciklusa u kojima se opisuju različiti aspekti kontakata Lige naroda iliti Ekumena sa novim, potencijalnim svijetovima-članovima ovog društva, revolucijama i ostalim sličim stvarima. U pozadini svake priče, nenametljivo se provlače momenat stvaranja Ekumena, te pronalazak ansibla, začetak telepatskog opštenja pojedinih humanoidnih vrsta što sve zajedno predstavlja stubove na kojima počiva Ursulin hainski univerzum. Za manje obaviještene oko Haina - Hain predstvalja planetu-pra kolijevku svih humanoidnih životnih formi u svemiru pa i samog čovječanstva. Hainci, uz CetIjance, kao jako napredna rasa, su u davnoj prošlosti započeli istraživački projekat u kome su na nastanjivim svjetovima širom kosmosa ostavljali "životni materijal" iz koga će se kasnije razviti humane forme čije će glavne karakteristike zavisiti od životnih uslova koje pruža data planeta da bi se milionima godina u budućnosti ponovo susreli sa svojom pra-djecom i uspostavili utopistički savez planeta...
Priče: SVET SE KAŽE ŠUMA (ovdje feminizam izbija u toksično-koncentrovanom obliku) PROSTRANIJA OD CARSTVA I SPORIJA KRALJ ZIME SEMLEJINA OGRLICA DAN UOČI REVOLUCIJE DEVET ŽIVOTA |
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mladjo
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Posted - 13/01/2010 : 23:06:56
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quote: Originally posted by mladjo
Ovo čitate iz krivog razloga. Ako ovo čitate kako bi proniknuli u um čovjeka koji je stvorio Schrodingerovu petlju – vjerujte mi, dijelim Vaše oduševljenje, ali neću je objašnjavati ovdje. "Filozofija fizike" tako gordo zvuči i daje trenutke duge kao vječnost potrebne za shvaćanje i kontemplaciju nakon toga. Tek ću iskoristiti mogućnosti modernog doba da Vas na kraju teksta uputim na članak o tome. Razmislite sami. Iako čovjek nikada sa svojim mislima nije sam. Ako ovo čitate nadajući se sižeu jednog romana – morati ću Vas razočarati i ovdje. O, može ovdje biti riječi o radnji, tekstu, putovanjima i događajima u ovom djelu, ali sve je to minorno u odnosu na količinu teksta koju bi jedan običan siže morao imati za ovu knjigu. Natuknice – to da, samo da zaintrigiraju one koji nisu čitali i podsjete one koji jesu. Ako ovo čitate jer se pitate zašto sam počeo ovaj osvrt istom rečenicom kao što počinje knjiga i to ne odobravate – pa, shvatite to kao osobni hommage jednom piscu i njegovoj mašti. Ako ovo čitate da produbite svoju vjeru – zadatak će Vam otići u neželjenom smjeru. A ako ovo čitate da učvrstite stajališta suprotna vjeri – naići ćete na plodno tlo. Ako ovo čitate da bi uživali u krajobrazima rijeke Tethys – onda se vratite na prethodnu knjigu. Rijeka je ovdje samo sjena onoga što je predstavljala prije I na kraju, ako ovo čitate kako biste pročitali nešto što će Vas uznemiriti, navesti na razmišljanje i natjerati na letove mašte prema novim svijetovima sna – ha onda ovo i čitate iz pravog razloga.
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Schrodingerova petlja: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat
Dan Simmons:Endymion Izdavač:IZVORI - ZF biblioteka, 1996. 606 str. Prijevod:Nenad Patrun
 Žanr:Science - fiction Endymion je kultno djelo američkog sf/horror/fantasy/hard - boiled pisca Dana Simmonsa(između ostalog nagrađenog i Hugom),te direktni nastavak knjiga Hyperion i Pad Hyperiona, a predhodnik četvrte i posljednje knjige ciklusa pod naslovom Uspon Endymiona.Knjige su usko povezane sa radnjom i ne mogu se čitati svaka za sebe što u ovom slučaju znači više od 2500 stranica jednog od najkvalitetnijeg sf-a ikad napisanog.Osim po Hyperionovom ciklusu, DS je među sf ljubiteljima poznat i po knjigama ILIJ i OLIMP, koje su već našle svoje sjajno mjesto među zvijezdama žanra. Knjiga se izravno nadovezuje na Pad Hyperiona, iako više - manje nije riječ o istim junacima, a i vremenski tok jeprebačen tristo godina u budućnost. Priča počinje pričom. Glavni junak, Raul Endymion, zatočen u Schrodingerovoj petlji, bilježi fragmente(pomalo skučena riječ, ali dobro) svoga života i usput nam baca mrvice, stranicu po stranicu, lijeno otkrivajući svoju prošlost. Tristo godina nakon Pada, crkva je dovela poznati svemir u međuplanetarni srednji vijek, data/megasfere više ne postoje, a i dalekobacači su daleka prošlost. Napravilo se što se moralo kako bi čovječanstvo bilo spašeno, ali po koju cijenu... Ali uskoro se dolazi do nevjerojatnog otkrića:plan je i dalje tu, uloge su samo djelomično izmjenjene, a netko jako bitan prodao je svoju dušu. Cijeli serijal, pa tako i ova knjiga, pisan je kompleksnim riječnikom, a opet tako čitkim i britkim. Knjiga je teška za čitanje, ali isplati se. Jedno od najboljih sf ostvarenja koje sam pročitao.
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mladjo
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Posted - 13/01/2010 : 23:52:00
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@Vope Imao sam sad hrpu posla, pa nisam stigao ni čitati ni pisati, ali sad, nakon što smažem još jednom Uspon Endymiona, možemo krenuti s osvrtima na hrvatski/srpski sf. Vidio sam zanimljiv članak o povijesti srpskog sf-a u zadnjem, četvrtom broju UBIQ-a.Svakako nabavi ako možeš. |
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mladjo
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Posted - 14/01/2010 : 10:07:12
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Zanimljivosti: *Endymion je inače u grčkoj mitologiji pastir iz pećine Latma u Kariji. Sin Zeusa i Nimfe Kalike, bio je ljubimac Selene, boginje mjeseca. Ujedno i jedan od prvih metroseksualaca u mitologiji:))
*Rijeka Tethys čudesna je ideja pisca knjige. Radi se o rijeci koja je zapravo sastavljena od mnoštva drugih rijeka spojenih u jednu putem dalekobacačkih portala. Ta živopisna pojava svoju ljepotu dugovala je još jednoj činjenici - tekla je kroz svemir! Inače, Tethys je još ime Saturnovog mjeseca, prethistorijskog mora, ali i ovdje isto ima mitologije:Tethys ili Tetija je grčka Titanida, boginja mora.
 Saturnov mjesec Tethys
*Nešto više o Johnu Keatsu, glavnoj muzi pisca serijala: http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Keats
*Keats se vrlo često spominje u knjigama, naročito u prva dva nastavka, a iz jedne njegove pjesme izrodio se i naslov knjige; pjesma Endymion napisana je 1918.
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vope
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Posted - 17/01/2010 : 19:25:46
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Zbirka priča sa početaka spisateljske Ursuline karijere u kojoj možemo vidjeti na koji način i ka kojim smjerovima se kretalo njeno sazrijevanje kao SF pisca. Mnoge priče su kasnije proširene u romane ili predstavljaju dodatke pojedinim romanima. U originalu ova zbirka je objavljena zajedno sa pričama iz polarisovih "Hainskih priča", nije mi poznat razlog zašto je Polaris izdao dvije knjige (1991. pa 1993.) umjesto jedne, integralne. Ono što se može zaključiti, a što i sama Ursula ističe, da njen SF ide u pravcu fiziologije, prirode, psihologije nasuprot tehnologije koja je pa skoro minorno zastupljena u njenim knjigama. Priče: APRIL U PARIZU MAJSTORI LOŽE KUTIJA MRAKA REČ OSLOBAĐANJA PRAVILO IMENA DOBAR TRIP STVARI PUT DO GLAVE ZVEZDE ISPOD NAS VIDNO POLJE SMER PUTA ONI ŠTO DOLAZE IZ OMELASA |
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mladjo
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Posted - 20/01/2010 : 10:11:06
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Evo, između dve Endymionske knjige listam u elektronskom obliku knjigu DROBNJACI - poreklo, prošlost i etnička uloga u našem narodu... Inače ima priča kako su dobili ime: Turski poreznici su došli naplatiti harač u selo, a momci su ih ubili, sasjekli i razvukli im drob po selu:)). I od tada ih zovu Drobnjaci. Izgleda da tradicija neplaćanja poreza u mojoj obitelji seže u duboku prošlost  Eto momci samo da znate, nemojte se sa mnom zajebavat jer nikad se ne zna kada će mi "žila Drobnjakuša" iskočit na vratu |
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drakulloni
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Posted - 20/01/2010 : 10:44:55
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quote: Originally posted by mladjo
Evo, između dve Endymionske knjige listam u elektronskom obliku knjigu DROBNJACI - poreklo, prošlost i etnička uloga u našem narodu... Inače ima priča kako su dobili ime: Turski poreznici su došli naplatiti harač u selo, a momci su ih ubili, sasjekli i razvukli im drob po selu:)). I od tada ih zovu Drobnjaci. Izgleda da tradicija neplaćanja poreza u mojoj obitelji seže u duboku prošlost  Eto momci samo da znate, nemojte se sa mnom zajebavat jer nikad se ne zna kada će mi "žila Drobnjakuša" iskočit na vratu
Posalji mi link za tu knjigu o Drobnjacima. Imam drugara koji se tako preziva, siguran sam da bi ga zanimalo. |
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mladjo
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vope
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Posted - 20/01/2010 : 14:45:35
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quote: Originally posted by mladjo
Evo, između dve Endymionske knjige listam u elektronskom obliku knjigu DROBNJACI - poreklo, prošlost i etnička uloga u našem narodu... Inače ima priča kako su dobili ime: Turski poreznici su došli naplatiti harač u selo, a momci su ih ubili, sasjekli i razvukli im drob po selu:)). I od tada ih zovu Drobnjaci. Izgleda da tradicija neplaćanja poreza u mojoj obitelji seže u duboku prošlost  Eto momci samo da znate, nemojte se sa mnom zajebavat jer nikad se ne zna kada će mi "žila Drobnjakuša" iskočit na vratu
Ha, ha. Drobnjaci su mi pleme-komšije preko brda, dobri i stameni ljudi. A vidim i krajnje opasni, ne se zajebavat... |
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vope
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Posted - 20/01/2010 : 14:49:35
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quote: Originally posted by zeljko
ocu ja knjige ursule moze li mi iko pomoci :(
Teško stari do ovih starih knjiga, ja sam imao ogromnu sreću pa sam naletio na njih. Od novih izdanja imaš "Levu ruku tame" sa originalnim Ursulinim predgovorom u izdanju beogradskog Solarisa, 5-6 eura. Kod nas je ima u knjižarama. |
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sawitch
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Posted - 20/01/2010 : 15:19:09
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quote: Originally posted by sawitch
Joj, ja se i dalje patim sa Dorijanom Grejom... Uzasno dosadna knjiga...
Sale druže ta knjiga je odlična i ni najmanje dosadna. Ako ti ne ide sad sa njom ostavi pa pokušaj neki drugi put, možda nijesi u povoljnom psihičkom rapoloženju trenutno pa ti se ne lijepi za vijuge... |
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sawitch
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Posted - 20/01/2010 : 15:24:09
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Moguce.. Pazi, citam je lagano... Ima interesantnik dijaloga, tacnije ne ni dijaloga vec interesantnih misli.. Ali sto kazes, mozda nisam u raspolozenju za nju... |
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zeljko
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Posted - 20/01/2010 : 16:16:29
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quote: Originally posted by vope
quote: Originally posted by zeljko
ocu ja knjige ursule moze li mi iko pomoci :(
Teško stari do ovih starih knjiga, ja sam imao ogromnu sreću pa sam naletio na njih. Od novih izdanja imaš "Levu ruku tame" sa originalnim Ursulinim predgovorom u izdanju beogradskog Solarisa, 5-6 eura. Kod nas je ima u knjižarama.
imam to i ostatak ponude kentaur i polaris te ono izdanje od Ursule smedje knjige iz opatije meni se cini... ali me zanima većina Polaris izdanja od 92. do 98.    
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Lord Vader89
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Posted - 20/01/2010 : 16:17:24
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quote: Originally posted by vope
quote: Originally posted by zeljko
ocu ja knjige ursule moze li mi iko pomoci :(
Teško stari do ovih starih knjiga, ja sam imao ogromnu sreću pa sam naletio na njih. Od novih izdanja imaš "Levu ruku tame" sa originalnim Ursulinim predgovorom u izdanju beogradskog Solarisa, 5-6 eura. Kod nas je ima u knjižarama.
to treba naci, nisam je davno video u Bg knjizarama, a svoj primerak sam kupio pre 3,5 godine. |
Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku: Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D. |
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