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Saale
Starting Member
76 Posts
Member since 26/09/2022 |
 Posted - 08/12/2022 : 09:43:34
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Originally posted by anto
super za konjana i noktoždera,šerif još jedna glupost ČK,maršal i nikako drugačije.
Ako je to "šerif" do gosp. Čanka, onda mogu da kažem da se nije proslavio na prevodima Čarobne. |
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john connor
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Serbia
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Member since 15/02/2011 |
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Chief Warhead
Senior Member
1258 Posts
Member since 28/08/2011 |
Posted - 08/12/2022 : 17:05:51
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| Francuzi ih naterali da rade smešan Bluberi i nesmešan Asteriks, nije do njih verujte da... jbt, pa čak i narkomani menjaju dilera kad se isti preterano zajebava s horsom, šta s vama nije u redu? Ozbiljno pitam. |
Tri ljuta moderatora suzbijala spam.
Jedan dobi povišicu, ostade ih dva... |
Edited by - Chief Warhead on 08/12/2022 17:06:07 |
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jagodanbg
Senior Member
2853 Posts
Member since 17/07/2019 |
Posted - 08/12/2022 : 17:42:55
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Originally posted by Paka01
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Originally posted by alexts
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Originally posted by jagodanbg
Hvala Anto.
Padat će glave.
Juuu...izvinjavam se alexts
Pa kad imaju identicne avatare! 😁 |
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alaniusfordius
Senior Member
1022 Posts
Member since 10/04/2017 |
Posted - 08/12/2022 : 20:08:15
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Originally posted by john connor
+1. Suprotno od proslavio. Ako izadje kao Serif Bluberi, strava i uzas.
Razlog više za preskok |
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Lord Vader89
stripovi.com suradnik
France
9618 Posts
Member since 05/07/2007 |
Posted - 08/12/2022 : 20:52:04
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Originally posted by jagodanbg
Pa kad imaju identicne avatare! 😁
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Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku:
Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D. |
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alexts
Advanced Member
Serbia
8527 Posts
Member since 25/09/2005 |
Posted - 08/12/2022 : 21:29:03
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| Razmišljao sam da za avatar stavim Mikija Mausa sa glavom Chewbacce, a da u pozadini piše Motörhead, ali mi se sve čini da bi i to podsećalo na nešto, mada ne znam tačno na šta... |
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Lord Vader89
stripovi.com suradnik
France
9618 Posts
Member since 05/07/2007 |
Posted - 08/12/2022 : 23:47:41
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| e sad si nasao da se duris, sto godina nakon sto sam prvi put konstatovao kako bi ti i anto mogli da zamenite avatare jer me prvi (periferni) pogled uvek prevari |
Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku:
Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D. |
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Saale
Starting Member
76 Posts
Member since 26/09/2022 |
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AleksandarN
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Serbia
2004 Posts
Member since 24/10/2019 |
Posted - 09/12/2022 : 15:52:01
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Originally posted by Saale
Ipak je "Šerif Bluberi". Bukvalno na prvoj strani privjua, na znački mu piše "Maršal Arizona"....
 
Sad mi jos draze sto cuvam Blueberry komplet u BG albumima. |
"Whatever it is, I'm against it."
Groucho Marx |
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alaniusfordius
Senior Member
1022 Posts
Member since 10/04/2017 |
Posted - 09/12/2022 : 16:38:02
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Originally posted by AleksandarN
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Originally posted by Saale
Ipak je "Šerif Bluberi". Bukvalno na prvoj strani privjua, na znački mu piše "Maršal Arizona"....
Sad mi jos draze sto cuvam Blueberry komplet u BG albumima.
Majko mila kako meni ne lezi ovaj Vansov crtez, uvek mi se zgrci zeludac kad ga vidim |
Edited by - alaniusfordius on 11/12/2022 19:49:43 |
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Chief Warhead
Senior Member
1258 Posts
Member since 28/08/2011 |
Posted - 09/12/2022 : 17:04:20
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| A nemojte ih zezati, sad će Bluberija nazad u štampariju na popravljanje značke. |
Tri ljuta moderatora suzbijala spam.
Jedan dobi povišicu, ostade ih dva... |
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axle munshine
Senior Member
Serbia
2356 Posts
Member since 14/06/2006 |
Posted - 09/12/2022 : 17:25:11
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| Zaista neshvatljiv potez to sa "Šerifom" Blueberryijem... kakav šerif, on je US Marshall... izgleda da prevodilac nema pojma da tu postoji razlika... |
...BD, c'est la vie... |
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alexts
Advanced Member
Serbia
8527 Posts
Member since 25/09/2005 |
Posted - 09/12/2022 : 17:45:58
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Originally posted by axle munshine
Zaista neshvatljiv potez to sa "Šerifom" Blueberryijem... kakav šerif, on je US Marshall... izgleda da prevodilac nema pojma da tu postoji razlika...
Zna to dobro prevodilac. Ali isto tako dobro zna da je maršal kod nas nejčešće u filmovima prevođen kao šerif, pa je mogao da se za to uhvati.
Lično me ne interesuje. Kad je bilo dozvoljeno Darkwoodu da uništi ljudima uspomenu na junaka iz detinjstva po imenu Čudovište iz močvare i da ga pretvori u Stvorenje, dok su forumaši sa njihovog foruma klicali u znak podrške za ispravljanje "istorijskih grešaka", bilo je jasno da je pandorina kutija otvorena.
Data je blanko dozvola prevodiocima sa "uredničkom podrškom" da pravila prevođenja stave ispred stripovskih nepisanih pravila i da počnu i nastave da se iživljavaju.
Tako smo dobili Nejtana (kod VČ), Konana Kimerijana, a sad i Šerifa Bluberija (koji doduše nije legalno objavljivan u SR, kao maršal, ali je opšte poznat među stripofilima, kao takav).
Tačno je da je osnovno značenje maršal-a najviši počasni vojni čin, ali nije jedino.
A što se tiče divljeg zapada:
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There were and in some places still are town (or city) marshals. These existed in towns where a law enforcement presence was needed but the town's population was too small for a full fledged police force. Often these towns were really small communities and sometimes weren't even incorporated (or chartered). Town Marshals were always an appointed official. They usually had a small office and may have even had a rudimentary jail. A jail of this sort was usually meant for holding a prisoner for a short period of time, either to sober up, sit out a fine or wait for a sheriff's deputy to pick him up for transport to the county jail to stand trial for felony offenses. Often a Town Marshal's salary was enhanced by receiving a portions fined for offenses against Town ordinances. Town Marshal's jurisdiction ended at the town limits.
An interjection here. Larger towns and cities like San Antonio, Ft. Worth, Kansas City, Denver and others had full fledged police departments, modeled after New York Chicago and San Francisco.
Sheriff's were (and are) county officials elected by the citizens of the county. These law men would have had a cadre of deputies. They also had responsibility over the county jail. Sheriffs were responsible for enforcing court orders, including (but not limited to) arrest warrants. They also were the ones responsible for evictions of properties when court directed foreclosures were to be enforced. Sheriffs generally had jurisdiction over the entire county, including all the town's and cities in that county. However, absent some need, they generally left that business to marshals or police.
Probably the best known example of this arrangement was in the town of Tombstone, AZ. Tombstone is in Cochise County. Virgil Earp was the appointed town marshal with brothers Wyatt and Morgan being his deputies. They had no jurisdiction outside the town limits of Tombstone. John Behan was the sheriff of Cochise County. The ordinance outlawing the public carrying of sidearms was one enacted by the town at the urging of the Earps. This was mostly a tactic to be used against the cattle rustling gang, known as the Cowboys. Behan never had a hand in trying to enforce this ordinance. However, the one time the Earps did, it resulted in what is known as “The Gunfight at the O. K. Corral”. After this gunfight was over, Behan arrested the Earps and Doc Holliday for murder, because he didn't recognize their right to use deadly force to enforce town ordinances.
Now we come to the U. S. Marshal. U. S. Marshals were (and still are) appointed by the President to serve in a district of a federal court. Each state or territory is divided up in districts. Some states have only one while others have several. U. S. Marshals though have legal jurisdiction anywhere in the U. S. Their powers are much the same as a sheriff only on a federal level. Marshals and their deputies rarely enforced state or local laws, except in cases of corruption or where local laws conflicted with federal laws.
Now for the confusing part. Often town marshals would also serve, on a part time basis, as deputy sheriffs. Also, it was common that both town marshals and deputy sheriffs would serve, on a part time basis, as Deputy U. S. Marshals. This occurred because of the distances between towns and the amount of time travel required. Because these various officers could only enforce laws of their jurisdiction that sometimes left a void. So cross reputation was used to fill the gap.
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Saale
Starting Member
76 Posts
Member since 26/09/2022 |
Posted - 09/12/2022 : 18:27:30
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Da li je Blub "US Maršal" ovde, ili "običan"?
Zanimljivo da je u Mister Bluberi, Virdžil Erp nazivan šerifom. U stvarnom životu Erpovi su bili maršali Tumbstona. |
Edited by - Saale on 09/12/2022 18:29:25 |
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anto
Advanced Member
Serbia
21246 Posts
Member since 29/06/2008 |
Posted - 09/12/2022 : 20:29:02
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ne zaboravite i Usagija madafaking Jođimba;ej bre Jođimbo,koji Jođimbo.
a za Stvorenje VS Čudovište sam kukao da sam i sam sebi bio dosadan.
Netan i Kimerijanac neću ni da komentarišem. |
Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)! |
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Red Marquis
Advanced Member
Serbia
3301 Posts
Member since 06/11/2017 |
Posted - 09/12/2022 : 21:11:39
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| Previše ste rigidni ko babe neke "nije kao u moje vreme". To na šta se neko navikao apsolutno ne treba da bude merodavno. |
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Imrahil
Advanced Member
Serbia
13481 Posts
Member since 21/08/2005 |
Posted - 09/12/2022 : 21:12:16
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Opste plakanje forumskih staraca sto im neko pipnuo u detinjstvo.
I da, serif Bluberi zaista zvuci mnogo jadno ali svakako ga ne bih kupio pa me briga  |
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anto
Advanced Member
Serbia
21246 Posts
Member since 29/06/2008 |
Posted - 09/12/2022 : 21:40:24
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Originally posted by Imrahil
Opste plakanje forumskih staraca sto im neko pipnuo u detinjstvo.
vala istina |
Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)! |
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alexts
Advanced Member
Serbia
8527 Posts
Member since 25/09/2005 |
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nikia
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Serbia
405 Posts
Member since 22/11/2008 |
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5ypo
Average Member
Serbia
530 Posts
Member since 09/03/2017 |
Posted - 10/12/2022 : 10:34:36
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Originally posted by alexts
Tako smo dobili Nejtana (kod VČ)...
CK je objavila dva toma Nejtana Nevera (Generacije) prije nesretne odluke Golkonde da Nejtana preimenuje. |
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Peyo
Advanced Member
Croatia
10406 Posts
Member since 28/10/2005 |
Posted - 10/12/2022 : 11:15:32
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Originally posted by 5ypo
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Originally posted by alexts
Tako smo dobili Nejtana (kod VČ)...
CK je objavila dva toma Nejtana Nevera (Generacije) prije nesretne odluke Golkonde da Nejtana preimenuje.
Nosimo crninu zbog preimenovanja Zejtina u Natan. |
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5ypo
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Serbia
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Peyo
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