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King Warrior
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Posted - 03/03/2012 : 16:36:15
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quote: Originally posted by Poli
Steta sto nisu Italijani stavili nekog novog crtaca na probu za naslovnice ovog kolorca. Nesto poput Texa koji ima extra nove naslovnice... samo sto je tu vec ufurani Villa a kod Zagija...
Ima vec ufurani Laurenti, samo sto ga niko normalan ne bi stavio na ovakav projekat...osim VC, naravno |
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Poli
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Posted - 03/03/2012 : 18:56:55
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Khm, taj "projekt" sam vec izbrisao iz memorije, ovaj ne brojim ga. 
Ali talijanu su ovdje imali sansu da privuce i nekog dobrog crtaca pa da se naprave specijalne naslovnice, mozda slicno kao kod Texa, neke kao omaz ranim naslovnicama, ostalo vezano na pricu.
Mozda Nuccio (zbog slicnosti Ferriju, ali to moze biti i u minus).
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dcopic
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Posted - 03/03/2012 : 19:22:36
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Da, šteta da nije neki novi crtač, bilo bi zanimljivo. Ali opet, stare Ferrijeve naslovnice u novom koloru stvarno izgledaju super! |
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velka031
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Posted - 03/03/2012 : 19:25:06
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quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
quote: Originally posted by Poli
Steta sto nisu Italijani stavili nekog novog crtaca na probu za naslovnice ovog kolorca. Nesto poput Texa koji ima extra nove naslovnice... samo sto je tu vec ufurani Villa a kod Zagija...
Ima vec ufurani Laurenti, samo sto ga niko normalan ne bi stavio na ovakav projekat...osim VC, naravno
Uuu, nikako Laurenti, jedna od najgorih opcija za naslovnice  |
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vknez
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 00:01:59
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quote: Originally posted by velka031
Uuu, nikako Laurenti, jedna od najgorih opcija za naslovnice 
Eh, meni je Laurenti bolja opcija i od samog Ferrija.
Doduše, po meni bi većina njih bolje crtala naslovnice od Ferrija. |
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acestroke
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 00:32:03
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quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bushido
quote: Originally posted by velka031
Uuu, nikako Laurenti, jedna od najgorih opcija za naslovnice 
Eh, meni je Laurenti bolja opcija i od samog Ferrija.
Doduše, po meni bi većina njih bolje crtala naslovnice od Ferrija.
Sjecam se da si jednom bio covjek koji nikad ne pije. Danas izgleda pijes previse, otrezni se malo, molim te
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 00:42:11
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quote: Originally posted by acestroke
Sjecam se da si jednom bio covjek koji nikad ne pije. Danas izgleda pijes previse, otrezni se malo, molim te
    
Ma da, ne daj bože da netko kaže nešto protiv Ferrija, te svete krave. Odmah postaneš meta sprdnje. Kao da si luđak ili pijandura. |
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acestroke
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 01:06:22
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quote: Originally posted by acestroke
Bushido, zezam se malo s tobom (mada se ne slazem da bi vecina crtala bolje od Ferrija, ali eto).
Opusteno, please (mislio sam da ce oni smajliji to komunicirat) ;)
Ja sam uvijek za šalu. 
S druge strane, bilo bi dobro kada bi neki zagorovci naučili malo opuštenije prihvatiti kada se netko usudi kritizirati njihove "bogove", Zagora i Ferrija.
Imao je Ferri dobrih naslovnica, ne kažem ja. Ali generalno, moje mišljenje o Ferriju-crtaču naslovnica je isto kao i o Ferriju-autoru. Slab crtač bio, slab crtač ostao. Pogotovo kada ga se usporedi sa njegovim uzorima i sličnim crtačima. |
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King Warrior
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 01:28:33
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quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bushido
S druge strane, bilo bi dobro kada bi neki zagorovci naučili malo opuštenije prihvatiti kada se netko usudi kritizirati njihove "bogove", Zagora i Ferrija.
Ja opet mislim da si ti mnogo agresivniji kada ti neko dira u mange
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 01:38:03
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quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
Ja opet mislim da si ti mnogo agresivniji kada ti neko dira u mange
Naravno da jesam, zato što u 99% slučajeva ljudi nemaju pojma o onome o čemu govore. 
S druge strane, ja sam sasvim dobro upoznat sa Ferrijem i njegovim radom i moje je mišljenje da taj čovjek nije rođen da crta Zagora. 
Draculu? Sigurno.
Vukodlaka? Sigurno.
Horror stripove općenito? Definitivno.
Ali Zagora i slične stripove? Nikako. |
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acestroke
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King Warrior
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 01:44:13
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@Bushido, to je pitanje ukusa, ja npr. mislim Ferri=Zagor, ili barem onaj PRAVI Zagor kakvog sam i zavolio. Naravno da ce Zagor opstati i poslije Ferrija, ali to vise nije to. Vec sada to vise nije to, Ferri je na izmaku snaga, a neki novi crtaci su udarili neki novi pravac. Mozda je to i ok, bolje i tako nego da na los nacin kopiraju maestra. Zagoru ostajem vjeran, on ce ostati zauvijek moj omiljeni strip junak, ali poslije Ferrija , kao sto rekoh, to vise nije to.
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acestroke
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 01:50:21
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quote: Originally posted by acestroke
Izjava da Ferri nije rodjen da crta Zagora je isto kao da neko kaze Federer nije rodjen da igra tenis, ili da Brando nije rodjen da glumi.
Gle, Ferri bi nacrtao jedan sjajan horror strip, ali crtanje pustolovnih stripova mu ide dosta slabo. Da ne pričam kako crta neke od najdosadnijih akcijskih scena koje sam vidio u nekom stripu. A to je dosta važno kada crtaš pustolovni strip. Zar ne? |
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acestroke
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 02:00:52
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quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
@Bushido, to je pitanje ukusa, ja npr. mislim Ferri=Zagor, ili barem onaj PRAVI Zagor kakvog sam i zavolio. Naravno da ce Zagor opstati i poslije Ferrija, ali to vise nije to. Vec sada to vise nije to, Ferri je na izmaku snaga, a neki novi crtaci su udarili neki novi pravac. Mozda je to i ok, bolje i tako nego da na los nacin kopiraju maestra. Zagoru ostajem vjeran, on ce ostati zauvijek moj omiljeni strip junak, ali poslije Ferrija , kao sto rekoh, to vise nije to.

Sve je to u redu.
Samo kažem, bilo bi dobro kada neki ljudi ne bi počeli paliti lomaču čim se izrazi suprotno mišljenje.
Recimo, ja ne poistovječujem Zagora sa nekim konkretnim crtačem. Po meni su sjajnog Zagora nacrtali i Andreucci, i Della Monica, i Laurenti, Chiarolla, Torricelli, D'Arcangelo, Marcello... I svaki od njih mi je n puta bolji crtač od Ferrija. |
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Krscho
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Croatia
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 09:01:27
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Na sve ovo priče oko crtača ću reć haters gona hate, ako vam se ne sviđa Zagor kakav je sad nemojte kupovat, vremena nostalgije su za nama i treba modernizirat šta crtače šta same priče, neke nove stilove uvest, napravit dramaticne zaokrete i ispitivati pulseve publike, zagor ko zagor zivi na staroj slavi ko i recimo tex, modernizacijom i raznovrstim rebotovima serijala ( sta ce raditi nathan never) treba privuc mladu publiku, milijuntni reprintovi izdanja je muzenje love i nicega vise, vidi se da boneli nema pravu viziju buducnosti s svojim junacima |
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King Warrior
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 10:03:30
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quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bushido
Samo kažem, bilo bi dobro kada neki ljudi ne bi počeli paliti lomaču čim se izrazi suprotno mišljenje.
Ne bih to nazvao "paljenje lomace", radi se jednostavno o tome da ljudi brane ono sto vole. Otidji u Nathanov, Dylanov, AF ili Texov topic i popljuj im junaka, bices isto docekan. Znam da si i ti isto osjetljiv kada neko dira mange, i to cak i van istoimenog podforuma. Da o navijacima sportskih klubova ne govorim. Ja ne vidim nista neobicno u takvom ponasanju, pogotovo kada neko uleti direktno u fan temu i onda udari trnjem.

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adriano
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 11:20:35
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Zanimljivo da najvise pljuju po Zagoru. U druge topice se ne ulazi tako cesto da bi se davalo negativne komentare. To pripisujem zagorovoj popularnosti, pa se onda nuzno stvori i krug protivnika kojima to valjda ide na zivce. Ovdje su ljudi ipak tolerantni i navikli na drugacija misljenja. Na drugim topicima, ako se slucajno usudis dati negativan komentar, onda si neznalica koja govori napamet i ne razumijes dovoljno bit stripa. KO da je to visa matematika u odnosu na Zagora, pa da imam sta razumit. Ovo da Ferri nije dobar u pustolovinama jednostavno nije istina. odmah se sjetim americke odiseje, uklete zemlje, zimske zmije, tko ce ih sve nabrojat. |
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teller
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 12:47:19
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quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bushido
quote: Originally posted by acestroke
Bushido, zezam se malo s tobom (mada se ne slazem da bi vecina crtala bolje od Ferrija, ali eto).
Opusteno, please (mislio sam da ce oni smajliji to komunicirat) ;)
Ja sam uvijek za šalu. 
S druge strane, bilo bi dobro kada bi neki zagorovci naučili malo opuštenije prihvatiti kada se netko usudi kritizirati njihove "bogove", Zagora i Ferrija.
Imao je Ferri dobrih naslovnica, ne kažem ja. Ali generalno, moje mišljenje o Ferriju-crtaču naslovnica je isto kao i o Ferriju-autoru. Slab crtač bio, slab crtač ostao. Pogotovo kada ga se usporedi sa njegovim uzorima i sličnim crtačima.
koliko gluposti od tako bistrog i načitanog momka... Ferri loš crtač? a toliko nahvališ neke kvazi crtače koje objavljuje Algoritam ili Fibra....usudi se Markosu reči da su neki njegovi stripovi crtani nikako...usudim se reči-grozno, nevredno papira.... Ima Ferri mana, sa godinama sve više ALI REČI DA JE FERRI bio i da je i danas LOŠ CRTAČ je za mene glzupost pa iako je izgoviri Veliki Buchido.  |
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teller
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 12:50:00
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quote: Originally posted by adriano
Zanimljivo da najvise pljuju po Zagoru. U druge topice se ne ulazi tako cesto da bi se davalo negativne komentare. To pripisujem zagorovoj popularnosti, pa se onda nuzno stvori i krug protivnika kojima to valjda ide na zivce. Ovdje su ljudi ipak tolerantni i navikli na drugacija misljenja. Na drugim topicima, ako se slucajno usudis dati negativan komentar, onda si neznalica koja govori napamet i ne razumijes dovoljno bit stripa. KO da je to visa matematika u odnosu na Zagora, pa da imam sta razumit. Ovo da Ferri nije dobar u pustolovinama jednostavno nije istina. odmah se sjetim americke odiseje, uklete zemlje, zimske zmije, tko ce ih sve nabrojat.
da to je zanimljivo, da Veliki Bushido do sada nije popljuvap nijednog crtača ponekih Fibrica,tamo su sve sami veliki crtači a? malo morgen...imam dojam da Buchido postaje mali Markos koji Ferrija baš ne podnosi prreviše....valda je predobar za Fibrice. |
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teller
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 12:53:01
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quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bushido
quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
@Bushido, to je pitanje ukusa, ja npr. mislim Ferri=Zagor, ili barem onaj PRAVI Zagor kakvog sam i zavolio. Naravno da ce Zagor opstati i poslije Ferrija, ali to vise nije to. Vec sada to vise nije to, Ferri je na izmaku snaga, a neki novi crtaci su udarili neki novi pravac. Mozda je to i ok, bolje i tako nego da na los nacin kopiraju maestra. Zagoru ostajem vjeran, on ce ostati zauvijek moj omiljeni strip junak, ali poslije Ferrija , kao sto rekoh, to vise nije to.

Sve je to u redu.
Samo kažem, bilo bi dobro kada neki ljudi ne bi počeli paliti lomaču čim se izrazi suprotno mišljenje.
Recimo, ja ne poistovječujem Zagora sa nekim konkretnim crtačem. Po meni su sjajnog Zagora nacrtali i Andreucci, i Della Monica, i Laurenti, Chiarolla, Torricelli, D'Arcangelo, Marcello... I svaki od njih mi je n puta bolji crtač od Ferrija.
da nisi napisao D,arcagnela možda bi i to pretrpio, ali da je on bolji od Ferrija, oprosti mister, ali drž se ti svojih mangica i Fibrica... o crtežu ionako vidimo da nemaš pojma, kad D,arcagnela držiš boljem od Ferrija. |
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