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jaki
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Croatia
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Posted - 25/10/2020 : 13:26:16
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quote: Originally posted by I like girlz nadam se što prije da slijedi i "ticonderoga", to željno očekujem (naravno isto u koloru, po mogućnosti).
Pljuc,pljuc |
Ja sam fetišist papira! |
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Peyo
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Croatia
10061 Posts
Member since 28/10/2005 |
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cerichus
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
1587 Posts
Member since 01/02/2007 |
Posted - 25/10/2020 : 13:43:18
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Imam Fort Wheeling od Strip agenta, ne kanim mijenjati. |
Elvis has just left the building! |
Edited by - cerichus on 27/10/2020 18:40:05 |
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jaki
Advanced Member
Croatia
25906 Posts
Member since 13/03/2004 |
Posted - 25/10/2020 : 14:09:58
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Ticonderoga: TICONDEROGA (1957) Texts by Héctor G. Oesterheld and Hugo Pratt
Drawings by Hugo Pratt (with the assistance of Gisela Dester from the 7th episode onwards)
This single story appeared in the Argentine magazine “Frontera Mensual” from issue 1 (April, 1957) and then passed to the magazine “Frontera Extra”, both published by editorial Frontera. This long story in pictures finally enabled Pratt to deal easily with a historical period that he had always loved from his childhood memories of novelists Kenneth Roberts (North-West Passage) and Fenimore Cooper (The Last of the Mohicans).The story is set in eighteenth-century North America during the struggle between the French and the English to control the territory around Lake Champlain where the Duchesne Fort, captured by the English, was situated. Actually, the geographical whereabouts indicated above is not really so specific as the action takes place in the area of the Great Lakes, a vast region that Pratt attempts to illustrate to the reader by frequently adding maps. The protagonists are three young men: a cadet in the service of the English Crown Caleb Lee, the shrewd Joe Flint nick- named Ticonderoga and the native American Numockh, as well as a number of minor characters from among which the Indian warriors emerge as they ally themselves first with one side and then the other. The backdrop to the adventure is the woods, forests and wild, unspoilt nature where the silent passage of the Indians’ moccasins contrasts with the noisy movements of the soldiers from Europe. In this work Pratt uses the technique of halftone as if to increase the mystery and fascination of the symbiosis between man and nature that is shattered by a war that will shortly after lead to the birth of a nation.
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Ja sam fetišist papira! |
Edited by - jaki on 25/10/2020 14:11:24 |
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jaki
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Croatia
25906 Posts
Member since 13/03/2004 |
Posted - 25/10/2020 : 14:13:46
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quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI
Sa već pilan, ali nisan čita Ernie Pikea. Šta želiš reć kad kažeš da više sliči Ernie Pikeu? Inače, Škorpioni su mi odlični.
The character is based directly on the American war correspondent Ernie Pyle, who died towards the end of the Second World War on a small island in the Pacific near Okinawa while he was following the 77th Infantry Division into which he had been incorporated. The inscription on his tombstone reads “Who knows if he’ll still be here” and is dated 18 April 1945. As a journalist Pyle covered war stories on several fronts all over the world and produced articles that, at the time, made him very famous back in the US. By creating Ernie Pike in his likeness in this excellent comic story the Authors wanted to pay tribute to this extraordinary man who had an exceptional talent for conveying the atrocities and absurdities of war. Ernie Pike is depicted in the illustrations of each episode as the narrator of the facts and so appears to be directly involved in the events and hence is perceived as a real person. So this fictional character uses the style of the real-life Ernie to recount the life, anxieties and fears of unknown soldiers as well as forgotten acts of heroism, small personal tragedies and stories of courage that often border on cowardice. Many have claimed that without Pratt’s drawings this series would never have achieved the lofty heights of striking success it attained and this is most probably true because no other comic artist has ever managed to get into the spirit of a character so completely and totally as the Master of Malamocco (as Odb, alias Oreste del Buono, was later to define him). The series which was born in 1957 and concluded in 1976 has 34 episodes of considerably different length attributed to Pratt, (the shortest cover 4 pages while the longest runs to 25). Other artists who alternated with Pratt were Solano Lopez, Alberto Breccia, José Muñoz and Walther Fahrer. Note: The range of Italian language publications that have hosted the character goes unrivalled in other European countries, from when he first appeared in 1958 on the magazine Albi del Nuovo Sceriffo, and later Albo del Castoro, il Corriere dei Piccoli, il Piccolo Sceriffo, il Piccolo Ranger, Albo Gli Invincibili, Sgt. Kirk magazine, Asso di Picche (edizioni Sgt. Kirk of 1969, not to be con- fused with the Albo Uragano magazine), Super Gulp,Totem, Corto Maltese magazine, the Lizard hardback, and not forgetting the Mondadori books and those published by Florenzo Ivaldi, including the top-notch oblong hard-cover volume published in June 1974. |
Ja sam fetišist papira! |
Edited by - jaki on 25/10/2020 14:25:01 |
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jaki
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Croatia
25906 Posts
Member since 13/03/2004 |
Posted - 25/10/2020 : 14:23:54
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quote: Originally posted by Peyo
Ovdje su valjda sva izdanja: https://www.archivespratt.com/fortwheeling.htm
Što se tiče previewa trebao bi biti poput ovoga: https://www.cong-pratt.com/en/ebook/wheeling-the-complete/ https://www.cong-pratt.com/en/ebook/wheeling-volume-2/
This is Hugo Pratt’s first great masterpiece, both in regards to the graphics which are as mature and well detailed in the first as they are airy and synthetic in the second, as well as in regards to the subject matter which deals with the American wars of independence that took place in North America in the eighteenth century between the pioneers and the interfering interests of the French and English that had sent their soldiers there. The work is a celebration of the great adventure narrative, made richer here by the presence of all the different Indian tribes of the area that can be recognised apart thanks to their aquiline noses and prominent cheekbones and who feature as fickle allies that continually switch sides. In this work the author is able to put his considerable historical knowledge of the period’s events to good use, creating a tapestry of great pathos and including in the storyline many characters who actually existed in real-life to mix together with his fictional characters: Criss Kenton, a seventeen-year-old Virginian, Patrick Fitzgerald, an English aristocrat of the same age, Mohena, a young white girl brought up by the Indians after they had slayed her whole family, the redskin Tiny, who demonstrates an unusual wisdom for her tender age. Alongside these fictional characters that are essential for the storyline there are a number of historical figures such as the tormented figure of Lew Wetzel, the pock-marked Indian-killer, the renegade white man Simon Girty (to whom Pratt gave his own face), the rough but honest Ebenezer Zane who founded Wheeling, Daniel Boone, one of the most daring pioneers of the time, Lord Dunmore, governor of Virginia, and Madame Montour, interpreter and agent of the Indian Department. Undoubtedly this saga always occupied a special place in Pratt’s affections, to the extent that he went back to it a number of times in order to polish it off and conclude it at whatever price, finally achieving his aim a year before his death. Note: In 1990 Hugo Pratt wrote “Il romanzo di Criss Kenton”, a prose narrative based on the comic story, for the Editori del Grifo. |
Ja sam fetišist papira! |
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vronski 3
Senior Member
2374 Posts
Member since 10/01/2014 |
Posted - 25/10/2020 : 17:12:32
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quote: Originally posted by jaki
Ticonderoga: TICONDEROGA (1957) Texts by Héctor G. Oesterheld and Hugo Pratt
Drawings by Hugo Pratt (with the assistance of Gisela Dester from the 7th episode onwards)
This single story appeared in the Argentine magazine “Frontera Mensual” from issue 1 (April, 1957) and then passed to the magazine “Frontera Extra”, both published by editorial Frontera. This long story in pictures finally enabled Pratt to deal easily with a historical period that he had always loved from his childhood memories of novelists Kenneth Roberts (North-West Passage) and Fenimore Cooper (The Last of the Mohicans).The story is set in eighteenth-century North America during the struggle between the French and the English to control the territory around Lake Champlain where the Duchesne Fort, captured by the English, was situated. Actually, the geographical whereabouts indicated above is not really so specific as the action takes place in the area of the Great Lakes, a vast region that Pratt attempts to illustrate to the reader by frequently adding maps. The protagonists are three young men: a cadet in the service of the English Crown Caleb Lee, the shrewd Joe Flint nick- named Ticonderoga and the native American Numockh, as well as a number of minor characters from among which the Indian warriors emerge as they ally themselves first with one side and then the other. The backdrop to the adventure is the woods, forests and wild, unspoilt nature where the silent passage of the Indians’ moccasins contrasts with the noisy movements of the soldiers from Europe. In this work Pratt uses the technique of halftone as if to increase the mystery and fascination of the symbiosis between man and nature that is shattered by a war that will shortly after lead to the birth of a nation.
Jel ovo mladost Žalosnog Sove...? |
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ivan_micic
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Croatia
2327 Posts
Member since 19/12/2007 |
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risbozg
Advanced Member
Croatia
15031 Posts
Member since 10/08/2003 |
Posted - 26/10/2020 : 14:25:01
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quote: Originally posted by ivan_micic
Najava od čarobne knjige za Cassidya, to je ova trilogija iz storia?
Gdje si to vidio ? |
10.08.2003..''Kada nepravda postane zakon, otpor je tvoja dužnost.". AJMOOOOOOOO " CREME DE LA CREME HRVATSKE LIGE " DINAMOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
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DiSkAcH
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Croatia
6064 Posts
Member since 05/12/2016 |
Posted - 26/10/2020 : 14:37:12
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EDIT: Mičem sliku jer je dole manja. |
-Hi Honey, did you miss me? -With every bullet so far... |
Edited by - DiSkAcH on 26/10/2020 15:44:43 |
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Red Marquis
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Serbia
3134 Posts
Member since 06/11/2017 |
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risbozg
Advanced Member
Croatia
15031 Posts
Member since 10/08/2003 |
Posted - 26/10/2020 : 14:51:20
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Taj Cassidy je isti onaj koji je izdan u mini serijalu ili nije ?
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10.08.2003..''Kada nepravda postane zakon, otpor je tvoja dužnost.". AJMOOOOOOOO " CREME DE LA CREME HRVATSKE LIGE " DINAMOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
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dragan4e
New Member
Serbia
183 Posts
Member since 09/09/2009 |
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zlatan bihac
Advanced Member
Bosnia and Herzegovina
7618 Posts
Member since 24/03/2009 |
Posted - 26/10/2020 : 15:13:10
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zanimljivo, stavili ga u ediciju specijal, a ne kao obicna riznica boneli gdje su oni romanzi i ona trilogija iz le storia - kad vuk lovi... |
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Hajo
Senior Member
1854 Posts
Member since 26/12/2008 |
Posted - 26/10/2020 : 15:25:27
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quote: Originally posted by risbozg
Taj Cassidy je isti onaj koji je izdan u mini serijalu ili nije ?
Nije. To su nastavci koji su izašli u Le Storie (Jedno doba jedna priča) ediciji. |
''Prijatelji postoje da bi cinili uzaludne stvari'' -Groucho |
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risbozg
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Croatia
15031 Posts
Member since 10/08/2003 |
Posted - 26/10/2020 : 17:46:15
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quote: Originally posted by Hajo
quote: Originally posted by risbozg
Taj Cassidy je isti onaj koji je izdan u mini serijalu ili nije ?
Nije. To su nastavci koji su izašli u Le Storie (Jedno doba jedna priča) ediciji.
Odlično..hvala |
10.08.2003..''Kada nepravda postane zakon, otpor je tvoja dužnost.". AJMOOOOOOOO " CREME DE LA CREME HRVATSKE LIGE " DINAMOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
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I like girlz
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
7745 Posts
Member since 18/01/2005 |
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Peyo
Advanced Member
Croatia
10061 Posts
Member since 28/10/2005 |
Posted - 27/10/2020 : 09:11:32
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Ne znam da li je ovo u primjeru kolor od Zanotti. Ona obično napravi izvrstan posao, a negdje sam pročitao da ima verzija sa njenim kolorom. |
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I like girlz
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
7745 Posts
Member since 18/01/2005 |
Posted - 28/10/2020 : 13:08:44
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quote: Originally posted by Peyo
Ne znam da li je ovo u primjeru kolor od Zanotti. Ona obično napravi izvrstan posao, a negdje sam pročitao da ima verzija sa njenim kolorom.
zato i kažem da ćemo vidjeti kad izađe :)
nisam nigdje vidio neki preview od tog "casterman" integrala, sve su iz pojedinačna dva albuma.
zaista želim da bude ok kolor, jer meni je pratt bez kolora nekako suhoparan. |
"Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes" |
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Peyo
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Croatia
10061 Posts
Member since 28/10/2005 |
Posted - 28/10/2020 : 13:30:58
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quote: Originally posted by I like girlz zaista želim da bude ok kolor, jer meni je pratt bez kolora nekako suhoparan.
Vidio sam izvrsno koloriranih Prattovih radova i znam koliko dobro mogu izgledati njegovi stripovi u boji.
Ali kao i kod brojnih drugih strip izdanja rade se novije verzije (iz raznih razloga, često i zbog nedostupnosti) koje nisu uvijek (ili bolje reći rjeđe jesu) poboljšanje. Tu je dakako i pitanje za izdavača može li doći do tih boljih kolora, bilo starijih ili novijih. |
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DiSkAcH
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Croatia
6064 Posts
Member since 05/12/2016 |
Posted - 11/11/2020 : 09:02:02
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OK, vidim da je u pripremi Cassidy, a ima li igdje riječi o zadnjem Atseriksu i možda još kojem Bluberiju ili je to to što se tiče ČK do kraja godine?
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-Hi Honey, did you miss me? -With every bullet so far... |
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risbozg
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Croatia
15031 Posts
Member since 10/08/2003 |
Posted - 11/11/2020 : 09:08:23
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Kod ČK-a se nikad nezna i sve je moguće. Ovaj Cassidy se nestrpljivo čeka. |
10.08.2003..''Kada nepravda postane zakon, otpor je tvoja dužnost.". AJMOOOOOOOO " CREME DE LA CREME HRVATSKE LIGE " DINAMOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
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anto
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Serbia
20721 Posts
Member since 29/06/2008 |
Posted - 11/11/2020 : 10:23:19
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Asteriks 9 bi trebao ići do kraja godine;a verovatno i još nešto,poput Bluberija. |
Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)! |
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DiSkAcH
Advanced Member
Croatia
6064 Posts
Member since 05/12/2016 |
Posted - 11/11/2020 : 10:26:17
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E super ako je tako, da ne naručujem sada, nego se strpim pa naručim više toga odjednom. :) |
-Hi Honey, did you miss me? -With every bullet so far... |
Edited by - DiSkAcH on 11/11/2020 10:26:36 |
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axle munshine
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Serbia
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